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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Thursday, September 14, 2023 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by second:
... according to a Ukrainian lawmaker ...

This is the only reliable part.




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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

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Thursday, September 14, 2023 10:08 AM

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Originally posted by second: ... ISW [Institute for the Study of War, the neocon Nuland-Kagan propaganda machine] continues ...


Yep, the ISW continues ... to propagandize. As does SECOND.


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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

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Thursday, September 14, 2023 10:10 AM

I'm surprised that THUGR isn't all over these boards with KIEV MISSILE STRIKE ON SEVASTOPOL!
Well, you heard it here first.



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Thursday, September 14, 2023 5:42 PM

Maria Zakharova, spokeswoman for the Russian Foreign Ministry, has promised a "tough response" and "punishment" for trying to "finish off" the Crimean Bridge.

In the spirit of Russian propaganda, Zakharova called the attacks on the bridge extremism on the part of the "Ukrainian regime covered in blood".

Quote: "A few days ago, [Nataliia – ed.] Humeniuk, the spokesperson for Operational Command Pivden [South], said that the Crimean Bridge had very little time left. He [sic] noted that the Ukrainian Armed Forces would ‘continue their work’... Probably trying to bring down the bridge...

... [the Ukrainian ‘regime’] is not ceasing in its efforts to prove that it intends to continue its attempts to target exclusively civilian infrastructure, such as the Crimean Bridge. Kyiv does not think about the consequences.

I would like to remind [Kyiv] that the response, if everything they have said here happens, will be harsh. Those who hatch such plans against our country will not be able to hide from punishment."

Details: Zakharova mistakenly referred to Nataliia Humeniuk as a man several times.

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/13/7419604/

The bridge should have fallen during the first month of this war. Unless Ukraine wants to lose, Ukraine had better hurry its most knowledgeable structural engineers to execute a competent plan rather than the amateurish plans tried so far.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Thursday, September 14, 2023 6:39 PM

The West Needs a Russia — Not a Putin — Policy

by Artin DerSimonian https://www.thenation.com/article/world/the-west-needs-a-russia-not-a-
putin-policy
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Demonizing Putin is not a policy. It’s an excuse for the absence of one.

September 13, 2023

Even before the latest phase of the war in Ukraine, the narrative surrounding Western policy toward Moscow has focused on Russian President Vladimir Putin. Such an approach ignores the reality that Putin acts rather as the adjudicator, and ultimate stabilizer, of the country’s fractious political elite. Nevertheless, recent reporting on Russia has remained fixated on Putin, effectively dismissing the rest of society and institutions as inept and insignificant.

In March 2014, following the outbreak of the Ukraine crisis, former US secretary of state Henry Kissinger wrote in The Washington Post that “the demonization of Vladimir Putin is not a policy; it is an alibi for the absence of one.” Unfortunately, this assessment has become only more pertinent since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine last February. As a result, the very possibility of a policy based on and directed toward Russia, not Putin, has seemingly faded from Western public “debate.” This approach, beyond skewing our perception of the more fundamental problems we face vis-à-vis US-Russia relations, allows the West to march blindly ahead without considering its own role in the current state of troubled relations.

Washington has a history of adopting confrontational foreign policy stances toward individual leaders (admittedly often less-than-savory characters), rather than toward strategic objectives that support or defend US national interests. This has been the case with Saddam Hussein in Iraq, Moammar El-Gadhafi in Libya, and Bashar al-Assad in Syria. These three countries continue to suffer political, economic, and humanitarian challenges, which therefore raises the question: What has Western policy achieved?

While many in the West like to believe that the values we hold dear and that form the basis of our societies are universal, the reality is quite different. As such, by demonizing leaders who don’t adhere to our principles, we often end up misunderstanding different cultures and how their societies produced such individuals and elevated them to positions of power.

While a policy solely directed toward an individual leader does indeed make for an easy-to-digest narrative for domestic audiences, it often undermines strategic US interests and regional stability, ultimately limiting our room for maneuver. By characterizing leaders whom we dislike as the embodiment of evil (or even the proverbial Hitler) and ourselves as the benevolent democratic crusader, we not only delude our own populations, but engage in diplomatic malpractice too.

While support amongst Russians for the 2022 invasion of Ukraine remains harder to assess from a sociological perspective (although indicators point toward a general acceptance of the conflict), the example of Crimea’s annexation offers a salient point of reference. Studies have demonstrated that most Russians view the annexation of Crimea as a positive event; so too, in fact, do a majority of Crimea’s residents, according to Western-funded research surveys.

Reportedly, Putin was being pushed by hard-line members of the political elite to go even further in 2014, along the lines of what’s unfolding across eastern and southern Ukraine today. While in the West, Crimea’s annexation was a clear breach of international law, for many Russians it was a “reunification” and historically justified. Clearly, our problems aren’t limited to Putin, but rather in our overall relations with Russia.

Indeed, Putin has been at the helm of the Russian state for over 23 years, during which time he’s increasingly silenced domestic opposition and engaged in a more assertive foreign policy. However, as my colleagues Anatol Lieven and George Beebe wrote in Responsible Statecraft: “Far from being the Stalinist autocrat often portrayed in the West, Putin has generally operated more

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Friday, September 15, 2023 5:00 PM

The European Parliament adopted a resolution on September 13 recognizing Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko as complicit in Russian crimes committed in Ukraine and called on the International Criminal Court (ICC) to issue an arrest warrant for him.

The European Parliament’s resolution stated that Belarus is complicit in the war in Ukraine and is involved in the deportation of Ukrainian children to Belarus, Russia, and occupied areas of Ukraine.[22]

ISW continues to assess that Belarus is a co-belligerent in the war and is involved in the deportation of Ukrainian children.[23]

ISW has also assessed that Belarus may be facilitating sanctions evasion schemes for Russia.[24]

Russian President Vladimir Putin and Lukashenko will meet in Sochi, Russia on September 15.[25]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-september-14-2023


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, September 16, 2023 4:00 AM

More hypocritical virtue-signalling from the heights of the non-democratic EU bureaucracy!


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Saturday, September 16, 2023 4:15 PM

Russian State Duma Deputy and former Deputy Commander of the Southern Military District (SMD) Lieutenant General Andrei Gurulev complained about lying within the Russian military and highlighted the effectiveness of Ukrainian air defenses against Russian helicopters.

Gurulev published a Telegram message on September 15 largely reiterating known Russian challenges, though with several notable points. Gurulev complained that the culture of lying in the Russian military is the main issue preventing a Russian victory in Ukraine and claimed that false reports are leading to poor decision-making at many levels within the Russian military.[4]

Gurulev also stated that Ukrainian air defenses at the front are effective against Russian helicopters and are preventing Russian helicopters from using previously highly effective anti-tank missiles, and he reiterated common complaints about Ukraine’s ability to conduct drone strikes on Russian rear areas and insufficient Russian counterbattery capabilities.[5]

Gurulev is notable for having previously leaked the audio message of former Commander of the 58th Combined Arms Army (SMD) Major General Ivan Popov’s grievances over the lack of support for Russian forces on July 12, and Gurulev‘s likely senior ties with the SMD lend weight to his complaints.[6]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-september-15-2023


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Saturday, September 16, 2023 4:18 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
More hypocritical virtue-signalling from the heights of the non-democratic EU bureaucracy!

Finland will ban entry to passenger vehicles registered in Russia starting Saturday, the Nordic country’s top diplomat announced Friday afternoon.

“Our decision is for the ban to come into force after midnight,” Finnish Foreign Minister Elina Valtonen was quoted as saying by the state broadcaster Yle.

“We estimate the new rules will significantly reduce traffic on the border between Finland and Russia,” she added.

EU citizens and “their immediate circle,” as well as diplomats and those traveling for humanitarian reasons, would be exempt from the restrictions, according to Yle.

Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia issued no-exception entry bans this week for Russian-registered cars after the European Commission clarified that existing regulations prohibit the import or transfer of goods originating in Russia.

Finland’s neighbor Norway, which has joined the EU’s sanctions against Russia despite not being a member of the bloc, said it was also considering banning entry to Russian-registered vehicles.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/09/15/finland-follows-baltics-bans
-entry-to-russian-vehicles-a82472


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, September 17, 2023 5:16 PM

Russian ultranationalists continued to complain about endemic lying within the Russian military after Russian State Duma Deputy and former Deputy Commander of the Southern Military District (SMD) Lieutenant General Andrei Gurulev voiced similar complaints on September 15.

A Russian milblogger posted a statement reportedly from a subscriber on September 16 that concurred with Gurulev’s assertion that the culture of lying in the Russian military is the main issue preventing a Russian victory in Ukraine.[16] Another Russian milblogger stated that the issue is a “disaster” and that lies occur at all levels of the Russian military as subordinate commanders are afraid to report the truth about the condition and needs of units and formations.[17] The milblogger stated the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) and Russian President Vladimir Putin are likely receiving false reports. The milblogger added that tyranny (bad command culture), fraud, and a lack of military resourcefulness are some of the issues affecting the Russian military in Ukraine and that the main goal of the Russian military should be to minimize personnel losses. A Russian insider source compared Gurulev to deceased Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin in his role as the “front line truth teller.”[18]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-sept-16-2023


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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