Donald Trump Has Been Indicted And Yes Arrested; Four Times Now And Counting. I was Right
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A major Giuliani development has drawn less attention: An FBI whistleblower filed a statement asserting that Giuliani “may have been compromised” by Russian intelligence while working as a lawyer and adviser to Trump during the 2020 campaign.
A story made up by Mother Jones because integrity means nothing when The Message is all that matters.
Giuliani fixed NYC and then Democrats broke it worse than it ever was.
I used to side with Democrats when they were against the alphabet agencies. Now you all spend everyday blowing them.
Get fucked.
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Remember when Jeanine Pirro, Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, and Newt Gingrich were losing their minds over Hillary Clinton becoming president while under FBI investigation? Want to compare with what they're saying now about Trump's indictments?
The same Fox News hosts and commentators defending Donald Trump now after his combined 91 felony indictments in four different cases were singing a very different tune in 2016, as highlighted by a new MSNBC supercut video.
When Hillary Clinton was running against Trump, multiple voices on the right-wing network cried out that the nation couldn’t handle a president under investigation.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fox-news-hypocrisy-supercut_n_64f56a5fe
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Remember when Jeanine Pirro, Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, and Newt Gingrich were losing their minds over Hillary Clinton becoming president while under FBI investigation? Want to compare with what they're saying now about Trump's indictments?
The same Fox News hosts and commentators defending Donald Trump now after his combined 91 felony indictments in four different cases were singing a very different tune in 2016, as highlighted by a new MSNBC supercut video.
When Hillary Clinton was running against Trump, multiple voices on the right-wing network cried out that the nation couldn’t handle a president under investigation.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fox-news-hypocrisy-supercut_n_64f56a5fe
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Uh huh...
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Remember when Jeanine Pirro, Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, and Newt Gingrich were losing their minds over Hillary Clinton becoming president while under FBI investigation? Want to compare with what they're saying now about Trump's indictments?
The same Fox News hosts and commentators defending Donald Trump now after his combined 91 felony indictments in four different cases were singing a very different tune in 2016, as highlighted by a new MSNBC supercut video.
When Hillary Clinton was running against Trump, multiple voices on the right-wing network cried out that the nation couldn’t handle a president under investigation.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fox-news-hypocrisy-supercut_n_64f56a5fe
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There Is Nothing Élitist About the Indictments Against Trump
by Adam Gopnik
Not long ago, I had the uncomfortable privilege of reporting for jury duty, and spent three days in a downtown courtroom—cursing the inconvenience, waiting to be called, and yet coming away inspired by the process. From a genuine cross-section of New Yorkers of many colors and classes, a jury was selected that seemed likely to do justice in a criminal case in which a man might be found guilty and deprived of his freedom. Waiting in the courtroom—though, by the luck of the draw, never called—I listened as the judge, a Black woman with a clear, soothing, rather Ina Garten-like voice, worked hard to spot biases, uncover conflicts of interest, discover outside attachments, and probe inadequate English to discover just how adequate it might become, while insisting, gently but keenly, that all potential jurors examine their consciences to be sure that they could judge the case objectively, according to the law.
It was touching, even encouraging, at this moment in history, to hear such old-fashioned terms—“impartial,” “following the law,” even “conscience”—used so confidently, and the judge’s explanation of how the trial would happen, with those honest consciences consulting one another after invigilating the facts, was still more impressive.
The circumstances of the juries that are likely to be impanelled to hear criminal trials of Donald Trump, presumably in the near future—in federal court in Washington, D.C., and in state court in Fulton County, Georgia, among other locales—are, I’m assured, recognizably alike. (The conservative converso David Frum wrote recently about serving on such D.C. juries, and of how impressive they were in the pluralism of their makeup and the seriousness of their purpose.)
Nonetheless, an effort is under way, not all of it from nakedly self-interested sources, to treat Trump’s criminal indictments (in which he denies all charges) as one more act in a kind of ongoing masquerade, or political pantomime. The indictments, in this view, do not simply submit him to the scrutiny of the law and that mixed box of fellow-citizens. They’re a strike of one discrete class against another, with “élite” Americans bent on settling a score with Trump and, through him, with his long-neglected supporters. The educated élite is out to get a tribune of the volk.
In recent weeks, David Brooks, in the Times, gently and empathetically, and David Von Drehle, in the Washington Post, more caustically, have both aired this by now well-rehearsed idea. Brooks wrote that “the Trump indictments seem like just another skirmish in the class war between the professionals and the workers, another assault by a bunch of coastal lawyers who want to take down the man who most aggressively stands up to them,” and Von Drehle noted that “I don’t think most Trump supporters actually want to live in a world where an elderly sociopath has unfettered power. But they do want to live in a world where those currently in power are cowed and cautious rather than smug. Trump delivers on that.”
Yet the empirical evidence does not support the idea that Trump and Trumpism are principally moved by those disposed by planetary capitalism or meritocratic displacement, and the vision of Trump as the voice of the economically anxious has been exploded as many times as it has been offered. If there is a pattern to Trumpite support, it seems to be that it is strongest among people—white, for the most part—who are among the wealthiest in their own communities, and fear a loss of status in the world at large. (This is a classic pattern of the rise of support for far-right nationalist groups—it isn’t only an aggrieved underclass but also a threatened portion of the overclass that supports fascism.)
Second, it is facially absurd, as lawyers say, to break down the pro- and anti-Trump divisions into that of an élite class against an overlooked one. Trump is a billionaire supported by billionaires. Some of those billionaires have developed cold feet o
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The problem with the legal system is that it works too slowly. Trump can get away by dying during the interim between committing a crime and Trump being convicted. (Trump's mentor, Roy Cohn, avoided paying all income taxes by dying from AIDS before the legal machinery could force Cohn to pay after decades of litigation.)
The 26 women who have accused Trump of sexual misconduct
May 9, 2023, 3:09 PM CDT
https://www.businessinsider.com/women-accused-trump-sexual-misconduct-
list-2017-12
For an example of somebody who, unlike Trump and Cohn, is too young to escape jail for his crimes:
Sept 7, 2023 -- Danny Masterson Is Sentenced to 30 Years to Life in Prison for Two Rapes more than 20 years in the past
The “That ’70s Show” actor was found guilty in May of raping two women in the early 2000s.
Danny Masterson, the actor best known for his role in the sitcom “That ’70s Show,” was sentenced to 30 years to life in prison on Thursday for the rapes of two women when he was at the height of his career more than 20 years ago.
Judge Charlaine F. Olmedo of Los Angeles Superior Court handed the sentence down after hearing statements from the women, who described the lasting impact of Masterson’s actions on their lives.
“The body is a relentless witness,” one of the accusers, identified as N. Trout, said in a statement that was read aloud in the courtroom on Thursday. “When you raped me you stole from me,” she said. “That is what rape is, a theft of the spirit.”
George Gascón, the Los Angeles district attorney, said he hoped the women’s bravery would be an example to others. “Justice was finally served today,” he said, noting that one of his top priorities was to ensure “Los Angeles will no longer be a hunting ground for Hollywood elite who feel entitled to prey on women.”
Shawn Holley, a lawyer for Masterson, told reporters outside the courtroom that she was “very disappointed” in the sentence, noting that a team of lawyers had reviewed the case and found “a number of significant evidentiary and constitutional issues” that they planned to use in appeals.
“Though we have great respect for the jury, and for our system of justice, sometimes they get it wrong — and that’s what happened here,” Holley said, noting that Masterson maintains his innocence.
Masterson, 47, will be eligible for parole in 20 years, according to the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office.
Masterson played Steven Hyde on “That ’70s Show” from 1998 to 2006 and also starred in the television comedy “Men at Work” from 2012 to 2014. More recently, he appeared in the Netflix comedy “The Ranch,” but was fired from the show in 2017 after the rape allegations emerged.
The case against Masterson drew widespread attention, and at times mirrored a television saga, in part because of accusations that the Church of Scientology, to which Masterson belonged, had tried to discourage his accusers.
In May, Masterson was convicted of raping two women at his home in the Hollywood Hills in the early 2000s. The jury deadlocked on a charge that the actor had raped a third woman.
The mixed verdict was delivered after a jury deadlocked on all three charges in November, resulting in a mistrial.
The retrial this spring lasted more than a month before Masterson was found guilty of two counts of rape by force or fear.
The legal case against Masterson began unfolding in 2020, when he was charged with three counts. He pleaded not guilty.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/07/arts/television/danny-masterson-rap
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The prosecutions of Donald Trump are something to celebrate, not lament
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/09/trump-prosecutions-a
merican-democracy/675262/ | September 9, 2023
Several distinguished individuals have recently expressed grave reservations about the prosecutions of former President Donald Trump. Notably, they appear to have no dispute about the seriousness of his wrongdoing. Rather, their main concern is that “terrible consequences” may result, because the prosecutions “may come to be seen as political trials … and play directly into the hands of Trump and his allies.” Although many Trump supporters will view the situation in just this way, any suggestion that prosecution is therefore unwise misconceives what is at stake here and, sadly, is evidence of America’s diminished national spirit.
For a free society wishing to preserve its governmental system, the prosecutions of Donald Trump for trying to overturn our democracy and willfully mishandling national secrets is not optional. They are the essential step that must be taken if America’s rule of law is going to survive, and be worthy of the trust that is essential to that survival. More hopefully, they offer the nation its single best chance of escaping from the appalling thrall of Trump’s lies and insults since he came down that escalator eight years ago.
One cannot imagine a more serious set of offenses by a sitting president against the nation than working deliberately to overturn the result of a democratic election—one that he clearly knew from his closest advisers he had lost—or illegally squirreling away and refusing to return some of the country’s most sensitive secrets. The seriousness is greatly magnified in the first instance by the extent and persistence of the conduct at issue, spanning many months and transcending multiple states and means used to change the electoral outcome. In the documents case, again, the amount of classified material and the persistence of evasive efforts to avoid returning the materials is breathtaking.
The extent and quality of the evidence of wrongdoing in both cases, including audio and video tapes, is also extraordinary, and reveals in countless ways that Trump was the primary driving force behind virtually all of the key misdeeds in both cases. In any situation where so much evidence exists, there will be complexities associated with prosecuting. And yes, a jury could nevertheless acquit or hang. But that risk is present in every criminal case, and is no reason to decline to prosecute.
To do so in these cases—featuring truly egregious wrongs personally committed by someone in a position of the highest trust—would be a failure of our vaunted system of equal justice at the most fundamental level. The planners and perpetrators of the January 6 events that Trump inspired and refused to stop are now receiving sentences of roughly 20 years; giving a pass to the person who unquestionably caused it all by violating his most sacred obligations to the nation would be unthinkable.
But it is not just an abstract commitment to justice—and to the idea that no person should be above the law—that urgently necessitates prosecution here. It is also the need to deter the worst forms of conduct that Trump has persisted in as we look forward to future elections, including those happening next fall. Although he failed to achieve his goal by illegal means in the election of 2020, he and many of his Republican allies are working hard not only to delegitimize the last election but to see that the next election will go his way regardless of the votes actually cast. If very strong evidence of such wrongdoing does not merit criminal enforcement, what is to deter Trump or anyone from trying to steal elections in the future?
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They are political trials.
Everyone knows that they are political trials. Even you two goons.
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Quote:You failed to read any of the indictments. In Trump's case, a million dollars per week in lawyer fees may convince four different juries and the following appeals that he doesn't deserve punishment, but he certainly deserves four trials to prove he is not guilty.
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They are political trials.
Everyone knows that they are political trials. Even you two goons.
https://www.google.com/search?q=indictment+text+trump
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