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Saturday, August 26, 2023 5:34 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Newsweek used to be interesting. Now it's just wrong.

PS, the uber elite aren't driven by avarice. They see their holdings as a game that they want to 'win'. Money, for them, is just a marker.

One point that the novelist Kim Stanley Robinson made in The Ministry for the Future is that the games end with assassination. All the money in the world for security won't be enough to stop drone ships from sinking very large crude carriers and some guy with a piece of driftwood killing an arrogant oil man on his own private beach. Meanwhile, all those poor people who want to continue burning fossil fuels cannot because the undersea pipeline was breached and the LNG tanker exploded on the high seas.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, August 26, 2023 6:25 PM

The world’s corporations produce so much climate change pollution, it could eat up about 44% of their profits if they had to pay damages for it, according to a study by economists of nearly 15,000 public companies.

The “corporate carbon damages” from those publicly owned companies analyzed — a fraction of all the corporations — probably runs in the trillions of dollars globally and in the hundreds of billions for American firms. Per Year.

“It would not be correct to just blame the companies. It is not possible to divide responsibility for these damages between the firms that make the products and consumers who buy them.”

https://apnews.com/article/climate-change-carbon-corporations-damage-p
ollution-9cb9e7c9feb2a68cb6dc0ae99c5e943a


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, August 29, 2023 2:49 PM

The U.S. is pumping oil faster than ever. Republicans don’t care.
GOP presidential candidates are blaming pump prices on President Joe Biden’s clean energy policies, even though the U.S. is churning out record amounts of oil.

08/28/2023 04:30 AM EDT

The late-summer surge in gasoline prices is heightening the risks that inflation poses for President Joe Biden, and offering Republicans a new chance to pin the blame on his green agenda.

The GOP narrative has a major hole: U.S. oil production — already the highest in the world — is on track to set a new record this year, and will probably rise even more in 2024. But the ever-increasing flow of U.S. crude has failed to keep a lid on gasoline prices, showing once again that a global market drives the fuel prices that shape presidents’ political futures.

And that means events far beyond the nation’s borders will play a sizable role in voters’ verdict on “Bidenomics” — as global oil prices rise and fall in response to banking conditions in Europe, China’s slumping real estate market, Vladimir Putin’s war in Ukraine and the latest maneuvers by Saudi Arabia.

“The U.S. consumer blames whoever is in the White House” for high gasoline prices, Quincy Krosby, chief global strategist for financial advisory firm LPL Financial said in an interview. “Biden’s people have to be watching this despite a stronger economy, which is an irony.”

It’s not the outcome that some experts had hoped for from the United States’ rise to energy superpower. Wall Street Journal opinion columnist Walter Russell Mead predicted in 2018 that abundant U.S. energy supplies would enable energy markets to “shrug off geopolitical shocks,” while Ed Morse, a long-time oil market analyst, foresaw in 2015 U.S. oil production would drive prices down sharply and herald “the end of OPEC.”

Instead, while the United States’ reliance on OPEC for oil imports has diminished, the country’s fuel market is still dependent on decisions made at the oil cartel’s meetings in Vienna — no matter how much oil comes out of U.S. shale fields.

U.S. oil production is forecast to average an all-time high of 12.8 million barrels a day this year and keep growing to 13.1 million in 2024, the federal Energy Information Administration said in its latest forecast. That’s up from the most recent trough of 5 million barrels a day in 2008, and probably enough to help the U.S. to keep its title as the No. 1 global crude oil producer.

Global forces, meanwhile, could cause pump prices to ease next year, with the Paris-based International Energy Agency forecasting that oil supply next year will outstrip demand.

That hasn’t stopped GOP White House hopefuls from lambasting Biden and his energy policies, including the green incentives included in the climate law he signed a year ago.

In one campaign ad, former Vice President Mike Pence pretends to fill his pickup truck and blames Biden’s energy policy for “causing real hardship” for Americans, while ex-South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley has vowed to bring oil production back to the United States.

And Sen. Tim Scott (R.-S.C.) railed last month on the Biden administration, which he asserted “has shut down energy production in America.”

“Why won’t this President tap into our abundant energy resources here at home and bring down prices at the pump?” he asked.

In fact, though, oil production from federal lands and waters has risen on Biden’s watch, reaching past 3 million barrels per day last year. The high mark during President Donald Trump’s term was 2.75 million barrels a day.

Much more at https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/28/republicans-gas-prices-oil-pr
oduction-00111626


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, August 29, 2023 3:57 PM


Stop blaming the average consumer. If you really want to reduce carbon pollution, start with those activities that are the largest and the most wasteful (war, wildlfires), the people who are the most wasteful (the top 1%), and start absorbing where it will have the most impact (agricultural, forestry, and ranching practices).

Once you've made a good start on that, then you can work on the smaller stuff.

It's like plastic: I never asked for everything to come wrapped, bottled, or packaged in plastic. I never asked for war, or fuel-laden forests just waiting to burn up, or private jets, or stripping the soil of carbon.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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Tuesday, August 29, 2023 5:24 PM

Signym, do the math. The Pentagon is 1% of the CO2 emissions. Cutting them to zero will delay climate disaster not at all.

In 2021, U.S. greenhouse gas emissions totaled 6,340.2 million metric tons of carbon dioxide equivalents, or 5,586.0 million metric tons of carbon dioxide equivalents after accounting for sequestration from the land sector. That is one year, Signym.

The best estimate of total US military greenhouse gas emissions (including installations and operations) from 2001 when the wars began with the US invasion of Afghanistan, through FY2018, is 1,267 million metric tons of greenhouse gases (measured in CO2equivalent, or CO2e). That is 18 years, Signym.

From FY1975 to FY2018, total DOD greenhouse gas emissions were more than 3,685 Million Metric Tons of CO2 equivalent. That is 44 years.

https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/inventory-us-greenhouse-gas-emissions
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, August 29, 2023 5:35 PM

Pentagon Fuel Use, Climate Change, and the Costs of War
Neta C. Crawford, Boston University
Updated and Revised, 13 November 2019

https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/files/cow/imce/papers/Pentagon%20F
uel%20Use%2C%20Climate%20Change%20and%20the%20Costs%20of%20War%20Revised%20November%202019%20Crawford.pdf


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, September 2, 2023 12:17 PM

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Shell Quietly Ditches Failed Carbon Credit Scheme

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/shell-quietly-ditches-failed-carbo
n-credit-scheme


Seems that generating actual carbon credits (and not just credit scams) isn't a money-making enterprise.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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Saturday, September 2, 2023 12:25 PM

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Pentagon Fuel Use, Climate Change, and the Costs of War
Neta C. Crawford, Boston University
Updated and Revised, 13 November 2019

https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/files/cow/imce/papers/Pentagon%20F
uel%20Use%2C%20Climate%20Change%20and%20the%20Costs%20of%20War%20Revised%20November%202019%20Crawford.pdf




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Indeed, the DOD is the world’s largest institutional user of
petroleum and correspondingly, the single largest institutional producer of greenhouse
gases (GHG) in the world.



And dood, it's not just fuel use, it's all the energy us d to make all of the materiel that just winds up getting destroyed.

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Military industry directly employs about 14.7 percent of all people in the
US manufacturing sector.47 Assuming that the relative size of direct employment in the
domestic US military industry is an indicator for the portion of the military industry in the US industrial economy, the share of US greenhouse gas emissions from US based military industry is estimated to be about 15 percent of total US industrial greenhouse gas emissions.



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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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Saturday, September 2, 2023 5:51 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Pentagon Fuel Use, Climate Change, and the Costs of War
Neta C. Crawford, Boston University
Updated and Revised, 13 November 2019

And dood, it's not just fuel use, it's all the energy us d to make all of the materiel that just winds up getting destroyed.

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Military industry directly employs about 14.7 percent of all people in the
US manufacturing sector.47 Assuming that the relative size of direct employment in the
domestic US military industry is an indicator for the portion of the military industry in the US industrial economy, the share of US greenhouse gas emissions from US based military industry is estimated to be about 15 percent of total US industrial greenhouse gas emissions.




No, Signym. No to everything you suggest, including the Trillion Tree Initiative from Donald Trump, which requires new land be planted with trees. Antarctica would be perfect because it has no trees, but could have a trillion trees once the ice melts.

Trump Administration Furthers Commitment to One Trillion Trees Initiative
https://www.doi.gov/pressreleases/trump-administration-furthers-commit
ment-one-trillion-trees-initiative


You know what the USA really needs to do in order to cut back on CO2? Forbid every Trumptard from buying fossil fuel. That is my helpful solution. It would be an instantaneous drop in greenhouse gases.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, September 2, 2023 7:46 PM


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Pentagon Fuel Use, Climate Change, and the Costs of War
Neta C. Crawford, Boston University
Updated and Revised, 13 November 2019

SIGNY: And dood, it's not just fuel use, it's all the energy us d to make all of the materiel that just winds up getting destroyed.

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Military industry directly employs about 14.7 percent of all people in the
US manufacturing sector.47 Assuming that the relative size of direct employment in the
domestic US military industry is an indicator for the portion of the military industry in the US industrial economy, the share of US greenhouse gas emissions from US based military industry is estimated to be about 15 percent of total US industrial greenhouse gas emissions.



SECOND: o, Signym. No to everything you suggest, including the Trillion Tree Initiative from Donald Trump, which requires new land be planted with trees. Antarctica would be perfect because it has no trees, but could have a trillion trees once the ice melts.


hey SECOND

A) That estimate was from the paper YOU LINKED. I suppose you didn't even scan it???
B) I never posted anything about a trillion trees. You're lying, again. And everybody knows it.



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Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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