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Friday, August 25, 2023 1:13 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Certainly not anything that would cost the elites any of their wealth or power. It's just used as an excuse to 'screw the people', all the way.

Have you never contemplated the idea of sinfulness? The obese want to be thin, but food tastes so good! After Xmas, they will go on that diet because there is no need to rush since the cardiologist told them their EKG was fine. Then, suddenly, the obese dies of a heart attack. So unfair! The obese meant well but couldn't start the diet at this time. If only there was more time the story would have ended happily ever after.

But there is a happy ever after if somebody invents a miracle food for the obese that makes them slimmer the more they eat. Oh, and the food has to cost less and taste better, too. Whoever sells that miracle food will become as rich as the oil companies are now.

Meanwhile, the sinfully obese want to be told by the government that they are healthy and pleasingly plump while Climate Change is just a Chinese Hoax. Waiting for technological miracles rather than forced dieting and quadrupling fossil fuel prices with new taxes is the best way for a government to get reelected when the voters are sinfully obese. To do otherwise is to lose votes.

The miracle of cheap, pollution-free energy (solar/fusion/hydrogen/wind/battery) and a weight loss pill/food will arrive just in time to save the day so that governments won't have to confront their fat and angry voters.

Miracles are what governments hope for, but if they and the voters were wiser (another way to say less sinful) that is not what they would do.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, August 25, 2023 1:38 AM

Yes. The elite here are very sinful, and they encourage sinfulness in the population. Bc, if people were righteous and right-thinking, they would drive the wicked money changers from the temple.


PS. If you have ever contemplated sinfulness, and looked at the ACTUAL BIBILICAL "deadly sins" (as opposed to the bastardized version you learned at your mother's knee) you wouldn't lie so much, hate so much, try to stir up trouble between people so much, and be so arrogant. Bc, yanno, there's four right there!


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There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers.

https://www.openbible.info/topics/the_seven_deadly_sins


Adding them all up, you hit all seven. Congrats!


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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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Friday, August 25, 2023 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yes. The elite here are very sinful, . . .

I have dealt with "Christians" all my life that aren't Christians. They have disgraced life because they aren't what they pretend to be.

I have also dealt with actual Christians, and their lives are graceful and calm because they are not pretending. They are the real Christians. No faking. No lying. Living a moral life all the time. No days off when they act like heathens. The mystery of why the man-made world runs erratically was easy to solve once I paid very close attention to what kind of people most Americans are.

Now for the Hindu running for President (I have never known a Hindu that was any more truthful/moral/trustworthy than the fake "Christians" rampant in America):

Vivek Ramaswamy presents himself as a man for this political moment — a 38-year-old entrepreneur without the baggage of a politician, who is not a “SuperPAC puppet” (as he calls Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis) and can tell the truth.

But faced with an unexpected question about climate change at the first GOP presidential primary debate, Ramaswamy chose to lie. “The climate-change agenda,” he declared, “is a hoax.”

Republicans being wrong on climate change is nothing new, of course. But it’s an especially virulent strain of climate denial to cast climate change — and the potential for humans to fix it — as a conspiracy theory in 2023.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/climate-change-age
nda-hoax-vivek-ramaswamy-gop-debate-1234811367
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, August 25, 2023 10:12 AM

I'm not posting about Christians, SECOND, YOU are
Not posting about Democrats or Republicans , either: they're both crooked at the top.

I'm posting about the elite being sinful. I'm posting about YOU being sinful.

Now can we get back on topic?

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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Friday, August 25, 2023 5:13 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I'm not posting about Christians, SECOND, YOU are
Not posting about Democrats or Republicans , either: they're both crooked at the top.

I'm posting about the elite being sinful. I'm posting about YOU being sinful.

Now can we get back on topic?

The topic is climate change and why it is not being responded to. The reason is clear: nearly everybody, rich or poor, realizes that they can get all the benefits from halting climate change without any expense to themselves. Therefore they will spend nothing and do nothing and they will lie to justify continuing to do nothing. That is why nothing has been done, except by a very small subset of humanity who aren't immoral, lazy, stupid slobs. The immoral slobs will continue doing nothing until their inaction threatens to kill them. Even at that point of extinction, most will continue to do nothing unless their supply of fossil fuels (gasoline, diesel, natural gas, coal, wood) is cut off by the government. That's the way most people are. That is why the man-made world functions erratically for most people.

There is a way out of this ugly situation: a series of technological miracles where green energy is much cheaper than fossil fuel energy. We must hope for miracles from engineers, Signym, because that is the only way to save the world. Even the most sinful and depraved people will switch to green energy if it is far cheaper than fossil fuel energy and all alternatives are taken away from them. But they will continue to pine for the good old days when cars burned gasoline and 18-wheelers blew smoke into the air from diesel engines needing maintenance.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, August 25, 2023 6:43 PM

In the end, the only Republican candidate who admitted climate change was real was Nikki Haley, who immediately made it clear she didn't actually want to do anything about it:

"If you want to go and really change the environment, then we need to start telling China and India that they have to lower their emissions."

Not really courageous politicians up on that stage.

https://www.npr.org/2023/08/25/1195566969/climate-change-made-it-in-th
e-gop-debate-some-young-republicans-say-thats-a-win


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, August 25, 2023 10:43 PM


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I'm not posting about Christians, SECOND, YOU are
Not posting about Democrats or Republicans , either: they're both crooked at the top.
I'm posting about the elite being sinful. I'm posting about YOU being sinful.
Now can we get back on topic?

SECOND: The topic is climate change and why it is not being responded to.

You see? I get thru maybe the first or second sentence of any one of 'your' posts, plagiarized or not, and I run into something so egregiously counterfactual or illogical (or just plain wrong) I can't go any farther w/o addressing it.

"Climate change' IS being responded to! The elite, the ones who have $ and power, ARE responding to climate change! They're responding in a way that gets them MORE $ and MORE power! That's the way they respond to ANY critical need of the remaining 99.999% of the people (food, water, disease, war, jobs, resource allocation etc.)

That's why the elites' response consists of high-tech money-making schemes and rob-the poor policies that make NO APPRECIABLE DIFFERENCE to the amount of greenhouse gases in the air.

And when one space joyride, or a fraction of the private jets, or one war, or a bad forest-fire season, emit more greenhouse gases than the poorest billion emit in a year, tell me... what can those people do to make a decimal-point's difference? How many 'solar stoves' and meatless meals are required to make up for the egregious profligracy and bad policies of the top 0.001%?

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The reason is clear: nearly everybody, rich or poor, realizes that they can get all the benefits from halting climate change without any expense to themselves.
No, they don't, and no, they can't. The poor have nothing left to sacrifice, and the middle class are getting a dawning awareness that everything proposed [by the wealthy] is simply a 'screw the people' proposition.

I'll give you a few examples:

Everyone blames China for being an egregious greenhouse gas emitter and coal-user. These emissions come from manufacturing. But WHO are they manufacturing for?
US! And WHY is manufacturing located in China? For higher profit!
So. Will the elite invest in re-shoring manufacturing using less, and less carbon-intensuve fuels? HELL NO! That would mean less profit!

War and our global-straddling military. It emits a huge amount of greenhouse gases, and we could reduce emissions considerably. Is that actually protecting us? No, it just costs a fuck-ton of money. So why can't we cut back? Bc the military -industrial -Congressional complex would suddenly see their wealth shrink. A lot. So that can't possibly happen.

And all of that Federal money going to EV and solar and carbin-capture. When one bad forest-fire year undoes 18 years of carbon reduction effort by CA, shouldn't the money be re-allocated to better forest management, like hand-thinning and "black soil" creation? Hell no! That would mean paying peons to do manual labor, and where is the profit in THAT???

THAT"S why nothing EFFECTIVE is done about climate change. "The people" aren't the problem, it's the rich. The rich, who are in charge of decision-making, need to be removed from decision-making.

If you want to solve a problem, start at the very top. You'll get 90% of it fixed right there.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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Saturday, August 26, 2023 3:13 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

THAT"S why nothing EFFECTIVE is done about climate change. "The people" aren't the problem, it's the rich. The rich, who are in charge of decision-making, need to be removed from decision-making.

If you want to solve a problem, start at the very top. You'll get 90% of it fixed right there.

You never heard of The Ministry of the Future, a novel by famous author Kim Stanley Robinson. In the novel, Mary, as she leads the Ministry, and Frank, a complete nobody, terrorize The Powers That Be. Private jets full of oil company executives are being shot down with Stringer missiles and a haughty and impervious-to-reason fossil fuel Billionaire is beaten to death with a piece of driftwood on his own private beach. The powerful aren't actually powerful, even with all the security forces money can buy when confronted by a small number of professionals who know how the fossil fuel industry works and will methodically destroy the market for fuel. In the novel, the decades of waiting patiently for rich liars in government and industry to be talked into ceasing to pollute the world with CO2 are over. Everyone who buys fossil fuel won't be able to, even if they think it is extremely unfair that the poor must stop burning fuel and switch to slightly more expensive alternatives.

The most important book I’ve read this year (2020)
How climate change will force humanity to rethink capitalism, borders, terrorism, and currency.
https://www.vox.com/2020/11/30/21726563/kim-stanley-robinson-the-ezra-
klein-show-climate-change


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ministry_for_the_Future#Style_and_ge
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, August 26, 2023 4:49 PM

Newsweek sees new technological miracles everywhere in its Better Planet Series. The wealthy owners of hundreds of trillions of dollars in oil, natural gas, and coal will simply stop mining and shipping their commodities because they are already rich beyond dreams of avarice. The poor will gladly switch to the latest technology despite it being more expensive and utterly confusing compared to the old and familiar ways.

https://www.newsweek.com/better-planet


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, August 26, 2023 5:09 PM

Newsweek used to be interesting. Now it's just wrong.

PS, the uber elite aren't driven by avarice. They see their holdings as a game that they want to 'win'. Money, for them, is just a marker.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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