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***** Sound of Freedom

POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 03:13
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Tuesday, July 18, 2023 6:52 AM


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I think the green numbers at The Numbers is prelim or estimated figures, and black are the real figures.
They just turned black for the weekend.
Sunday SoF jumped up to highest take per screen, beating Indy5 and Red Door. It was estimated behind Red Door.

Also, every single day since release, SoF has more $ per screen that Indy5.
Even when it added more than 13% more theaters for the weekend.


let's see...
For the days when working folk are not working...

Date | DBO Rnk /Scrn Rnk
04Jul 14.24 1 $5,407 1
08Jul 7.176 3 $2,431 2
09Jul 7.295 3 $2,471 1
15Jul 10.22 2 $3,132 2
16Jul 9.563 2 $2,929 2

other days...
05Jul 4.047 2 $1,537 1
06Jul 3.697 3 $1,404 2
07Jul 5.208 3 $1,764 2
10Jul 4.000 1 $1,355 1
11Jul 3.829 1 $1,297 1
12Jul 4.424 2 $1,499 2
13Jul 4.576 2 $1,550 2
14Jul 7.491 2 $2,294 2

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I suspect that this movie was pretty front-loaded on viewership and don't really expect it to stay in theaters all that long, but with good word of mouth it should have a pretty decent first weekend in theaters and very easily jump past that predicted $20 Million in the first 6 days of release with more than $14.2 Million already under its belt on Tuesday.

So, this front-loading theory of yours - how long does it last?
Does it pull ahead of Red Door $/screen over the weekend?
I don't expect it to take out MI:8.
Will SoF fall behind Indy5 and Red Door in $/screen?
How else do you measure?


Dead Reckoning barely stayed above double what SoF earned for the weekend. No other film earned half of what SoF did in it's 2nd weekend.
On Saturday morning, I was poking around on The Numbers site. The projections graph for SoF is hilarious - it is not behaving as Bruce Wokenash has directed.
Wokenash also predicted that, for the entire 3-days of the weekend, SoF would earn $10 million total.

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Wednesday, July 19, 2023 2:29 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
6ix, what do you expect to see for it's Last Week drop %? when Tuesday numbers come out?
Since that might not be fair, having July 4 a day off and all, what do you expect to see as the Last Week drop on Wednesday?



Yeah... That's not going to be fair at all. Not so much unfair, but not really a useful comparison.

Well... looking at The-Numbers right now and being amazed that SoF took 1st place again on Monday with a whopping $4 Million, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the drop for Wednesday will be negligible. In fact, I wonder if it would be a first time where a movie made more on a weekday during its second week than it did 7 days prior if that were to happen.

Why do I think it might actually make more this Wednesday than last?


Well take a look at any of the other movies playing right now that have had a decent box office, and then look at the money they made on Thursday night and tell me how many made more than that on the following Monday.

SPOILER ALERT: I see a few, but I don't think the extra money that Elemental made on Monday July 3rd counts with the holiday weekend. I certainly wouldn't count the Miles Morales sequel making more on Juneteenth than it did the previous Thursday. I don't think that Fast X making more on Memorial Day than the previous Thursday counts either.

But Sound of Freedom just did it. Taking 1st place from both Indy 5 and the weekend winner on Monday with $4,000,345 is extremely impressive when you consider that it only made $3,697,749 on the previous Thursday. It only fell $47k short of beating last Wednesday's number yesterday too.

So although I'd love to just tell you it's going to beat last Wednesday, I can't say that for sure. But if it doesn't, I don't see the loss being in the double digits. I am cautiously optimistic that it will gross more this Wednesday than it did last Wednesday.

It should also be noted that even though SoF had no prayer of beating MI7 and likely never will for even a single day (words I don't imagine I'll be eating), now that we know Preview Night numbers are wrapped up into opening night numbers, MI7 made $8,516,660 on Wednesday night, and $7,000,000 on Tuesday night for a grand total of $15,516,660. SoF is holding its own against the its first actual successful blockbuster with a same two-day total of $8,253,957, or 53.2% of what MI7 pulled in.

Not to shabby against a 27-year-old-and-still-going-strong Tom Cruise franchise movie that had a 2071% higher production budget.

Quoted for the brazen and bold prediction.
On the 6th day of release for Dead Reckoning, DR earned an average of $1,226 per theater.
Sound of Freedom earned $1,518 per theater, on it's 2nd Monday.

How many days before DR falls below SoF in Domestic Box Office? I think it will hold for Tuesday, but watch out Wednesday.

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Wednesday, July 19, 2023 2:40 AM


Updating:

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I think the green numbers at The Numbers is prelim or estimated figures, and black are the real figures.
They just turned black for the weekend.
Sunday SoF jumped up to highest take per screen, beating Indy5 and Red Door. It was estimated behind Red Door.

Also, every single day since release, SoF has more $ per screen that Indy5.
Even when it added more than 13% more theaters for the weekend.


let's see...
For the days when working folk are not working...

Date | DBO Rnk /Scrn Rnk
04Jul 14.24 1 $5,407 1
08Jul 7.176 3 $2,431 2
09Jul 7.295 3 $2,471 1
15Jul 10.22 2 $3,132 2
16Jul 9.563 2 $2,929 2

other days...
05Jul 4.047 2 $1,537 1
06Jul 3.697 3 $1,404 2
07Jul 5.208 3 $1,764 2
10Jul 4.000 1 $1,355 1
11Jul 3.829 1 $1,297 1
12Jul 4.424 2 $1,499 2
13Jul 4.576 2 $1,550 2
14Jul 7.491 2 $2,294 2
17Jul 4.954 2 $1,518 1

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I suspect that this movie was pretty front-loaded on viewership and don't really expect it to stay in theaters all that long, but with good word of mouth it should have a pretty decent first weekend in theaters and very easily jump past that predicted $20 Million in the first 6 days of release with more than $14.2 Million already under its belt on Tuesday.

So, this front-loading theory of yours - how long does it last?
Does it pull ahead of Red Door $/screen over the weekend?
I don't expect it to take out MI:8.
Will SoF fall behind Indy5 and Red Door in $/screen?
How else do you measure?


I've been poking around the Bruce Wokenash site the last few weeks. I noticed that when the undisputed #1 has figures released, he marks it as #1 right away, and those beneath it remain unranked until further confirmed. Usually the top 4 get ranked after SoF figures are posted.

However, today when DR figures were posted, it did not have the #1 ranking yet, because Wokenash was finally uncertain enough that SoF had not been better.
I found that humorous.

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Wednesday, July 19, 2023 5:34 AM

Don't be shitty. I said I wanted this movie to do well, and we're currently witnessing something that may very well has never happened before.

My theory that SoF was front-loaded was sound, even though it's obviously turned out to be incorrect in the end.

In your mind, until I corrected it, you thought that 2000 Mules was something that did much better than the overall $1.5 Million in the box office it ultimately saw on its limited release that never added any theaters, which you also thought that it increased theaters from limited to wide.

I'm thrilled that it's doing well.

I'll update the lists soonish.

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Wednesday, July 19, 2023 6:45 AM

I was going to post that on Sun, when the guesstimate figures for Sat and also Sun were posted, as usual Wokenash bloated the estimates for DR (by a couple $ Million) as well as RD and indy5. Also per usual, he underestimated the Box Office for SoF - guesstimating $9,282,855. Black figure was $9,563,034.

His $10M prediction for SoF weekend put it ranked at 4th or 5th.

Have you seen it yet?


Also, I have heard that some Woke dweebs claim that SoF has tickets/seats purchased which are never filled.
I have seen this occur many times in the last few years. Theaters are showing seats filled/bought, but a peek inside reveals large swaths of seats empty - and they remain empty for show's duration. I have never sussed out exactly what this was about.

With SoF, I have peeked into numerous showing of this - and never found any empty seats, anywhere in the room.

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Wednesday, July 19, 2023 8:57 AM

Moving the list here where it belongs from the The Little Mermaid Failure thread....





UPDATED LISTS: Late-Evening of 07/18 on The-Numbers...

Worldwide Opening Weekend and percentage of Production Budget made on opening weekend including all American made films currently in the global top 45 (Or that were in the top 35 on June 19th, which was the previous time I'd updated this list):

1 Insidious: The Red Door / Budget: $16,000,000 / WWO: $64,000,000 / 400%
2 The Super Mario Bros. Movie / Budget: $100,000,000 / WWO: $377,000,000 / 377%
3 M3GAN / Budget: $12,000,000 / WWO: $45,000,000 / 375%
4 Sound of Freedom / Budget: $14,000,000 / WWO: $42,000,000 / 300%
5 Evil Dead Rise / Budget: $19,000,000 / WWO: $40,000,000 / 210%
6 Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse / Budget: $100,000,000 / WWO: $209,000,000 / 209%
7 The Pope's Exorcist / Budget: $18,000,000 / WWO: $36,500,000 / 203%
8 Scream VI / Budget: $35,000,000 / WWO: $67,000,000 / 191%
9 John Wick: Chapter 4 / Budget: $100,000,000 / WWO: $138,000,000 / 138%
10 Creed III / Budget: $75,000,000 / WWO: $100,000,000 / 133%
11 Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania / Budget: $200,000,000 / WWO: $250,000,000 / 125%
12 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 / Budget: $250,000,000 / WWO: $290,000,000 / 116%
13 Knock at the Cabin / Budget: $20,000,000 / WWO: $21,000,000 / 105%
14 Jesus Revolution / Budget: $15,000,000 / WWO: $15,000,000 / 100%
15 Fast X / Budget: $340,000,000 / WWO: $319,000,000 / 94%
16 Transformers: Rise of the Beasts / Budget: $195,000,000 / WWO: $170,000,000 / 87%
17 Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning Pt1 / Budget: $290,000,000 / WWO: $235,000,000 81%
18 Cocaine Bear / Budget: $35,000,000 / WWO: $28,000,000 / 80%
19 The Little Mermaid / Budget: $250,000,000 / WWO: $164,000,000 / 66%
20 The Boogeyman / Budget: $35,000,000 / WWO: $20,000,000 / 57%
21 Shazam: Fury of the Gods / Budget: $125,000,000 / WWO: $66,000,000 / 53%
22 No Hard Feelings / Budget: $45,000,000 / WWO: $22,000,000 / 49%
23 Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves / Budget: $150,000,000 / WWO: $72,000,000 / 48%
24 Indiana Jones & the Dial of Destiny / Budget: $300,000,000 / WWO: $131,000,000 / 43.7%
25 AIR / Budget: $70,000,000 / WWO: $30,000,000 / 43%
26 65 / Budget: $45,000,000 / WWO: $12,300,000 / 27%
27 Magic Mike's Last Dance / Budget: $45,000,000 / WWO: $8,000,000 / 18%
28 The Flash / Budget: $200,000,000 / WWO: $75,000,000 / 37.5%
29 Elemental / Budget: $200,000,000 / WWO: $48,000,000 / 24%

SPECIAL MENTION:
Mummies / Budget: $12,000,000 / WWO: Unknown / ?



Winners and losers from the previous list:

Winners:

1. M3GAN made 1,475% of its production budget of $12 Million. [FINAL]
2. Super Mario Bros Movie made 1,349% of its production budget of $100 Million.
3. Insidious: The Red Door made 775% of its $16 Million production budget.
4. Evil Dead Rise made 768% of its production budget of $19 Million. [FINAL]
5. Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse made 664% of its production budget of $100 Million.
6. Sound of Freedom made 650% of its $14 Million production budget.
7. Scream IV made 483% of its production budget of $35 Million. [FINAL]
8. Mummies made 442% of its production budget of $12 Million. [FINAL]
9. John Wick: Chapter 4 made 432% of its production budget of $100 Million. [FINAL]
10. The Pope's Exorcist made 405% of its production budget of $18 Million. [FINAL]
11. Creed III made 365% of its production budget of $75 Million. [FINAL]
12. Jesus Revolution made 353% of its production budget of $15 Million. [FINAL]
13. Guardians of the Galaxy: Vol. 3 made 336% of its production budget of $250 Million.
14. Knock at the Cabin made 275% of its production budget of $20 Million. [FINAL]
15. Cocaine Bear made 254% of its production budget of $35 Million. [FINAL]
16. The Boogeyman made 234% of its $

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Wednesday, July 19, 2023 9:01 AM

Why go to a theater to see Sound of Freedom? It is available for free:

1) https://www.1377x.to/torrent/5729263/Sound-of-Freedom-2022-V1-1080p-HD
CAM-x264-Ad-Dual-YG
/

2) https://thepiratebay.org/search.php?q=sound+of+freedom

But even free is too high a price for such a movie. The movie-makers should pay you for watching this particular product. Take away the noise surrounding it, and Sound of Freedom has distinct cinematic ambitions: a non-graphic horror film with what could be called an art-house sensibility for muted rage and precise, striking shadows derived from an already bleak world. If “Sound of Freedom” were less concerned with being something "important," it could be more than a mood, it could be a movie.

https://www.metacritic.com/movie/sound-of-freedom

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, July 19, 2023 9:02 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Have you seen it yet?



No. I have not.

I was out of town most of last week. It's currently in the theater down by my brother along with MI7, but it is getting bumped for Barbie of all movies on Friday, so it won't be there when my Dad goes to visit him next week. If it was there, I was going to go down with him, but I'm pretty busy at the moment so I won't be making the trip.

I told my dad and one of my buddies that I'm down to see it if they have the time... something I wouldn't do for pretty much any movie outside of going to the theater down by my brother. I won't go see a movie in the theater alone either. I'm hoping one of them want to go with me.

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Wednesday, July 19, 2023 9:07 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Why go to a theater to see Sound of Freedom? It is available for free:




Shove it, groomer pirate asshole.

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Wednesday, July 19, 2023 9:18 AM

6ix, you are shallow. The movie doesn’t develop Ballard beyond being a symbol. A casual YouTube search on the real Tim Ballard shows that he’s a far more outspoken, hyper type than we see here. It suggests a different tone for such a character-focused story, and one wonders why the makers were weary of it.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Tim+Ballard+interview+youtube

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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