Is isolationism bad?? What happens if or when the USA Withdraws from the World?
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Quote:We are all familiar with your negativity,constantly.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Nah. Since nearly everywhere we go we make war and create instability and failed states, my guess is that MOST of the world would be better off without us.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
What happens?
The world gets screwed. Most of the World knows this. Not sure howmany Americans do in this age of Fake News.
For example, since we bailed on our Mideast wars to foment eat n Ukraine, peace has broken out all over. Turkey and Syria are talking, Syria was welcomed back into the League of Arab Nations, and Iran and Saudi Arabia are making nice with each other.
Isn't the world so much better off without all of that sturm und drang (storm and strife,)?
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM
How many nations are in the world today?
How many of those nations do not have citizens who dream of immigrating to the United States of America?
I understand that you believe that America conquered France - twice - and absorbed it. Yet France does not currently speak English from border to border. Nor German. Same with most Yurpeen nations. And Japan, South Korea, Middle East.
Sure, Libtards and other Democrats love to tinker with the governments of other nations, just like Ike warned against, but America still supposedly elected more and more Libtards to start up these wars and coups.
But the folks who live in those nations are able to see around the nonsense, to some degree.
They know that the world would be screwed. Particularly when the world is all speaking Chinese and it is too late to reconsider how good it was when America wasn't Unconstitutionally Woke.
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Quote:193, and two UN observer states.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
What happens?
The world gets screwed. Most of the World knows this. Not sure howmany Americans do in this age of Fake News.
SIGNY: Nah. Since nearly everywhere we go we make war and create instability and failed states, my guess is that MOST of the world would be better off without us.
For example, since we bailed on our Mideast wars to foment war in Ukraine, peace has broken out all over. Turkey and Syria are talking, Syria was welcomed back into the League of Arab Nations, and Iran and Saudi Arabia are making nice with each other.
Isn't the world so much better off without all of that sturm und drang (storm and strife)?
JSF: We are all familiar with your negativity,constantly.
How many nations are in the world today?
Quote:"I came to America believing that streets were paved with gold. Not only were they not paved with gold,, they weren't even paved, and WE were supposed to pave them!"
How many of those nations do not have citizens who dream of immigrating to the United States of America?
Believe it or not, the USA is NOT the best place in the world, and it's getting worse by the year. There are many people in many nations who want to stay where they are. .
Quote:HUH???
JSF: I understand that you believe that America conquered France - twice - and absorbed it.
When have I posted about France??
What's your point?
Quote:I think you mean "overthrow, and install compliant dictatorships
JSF: Yet France does not currently speak English from border to border. Nor German. Same with most Yurpeen nations. And Japan, South Korea, Middle East.
Sure, Libtards and other Democrats love to tinker with the governments of other nations,
Quote:It's been a bipartisan project. Just look at GWB and John McCain and Lindsey Graham. And DeSantis is just the same.
just like Ike warned against, but America still supposedly elected more and more Libtards to start up these wars and coups.
Quote:I don't think Iraqis or Libyans or Syrians or Serbians or Iranians or Chinese or Russians or Venezuelans or Nicaraguans are in a very forgiving mood. And once people see that America can be defeated you might be surprised to find out just how many people hate the USA.
JSF: But the folks who live in those nations are able to see around the nonsense, to some degree.
NO, we're not universally hated, but we're not universally tolerated either.
Quote:it seems that, according to you, China isn't part of the world? Bc when you say "the world" would be screwed I think you mean to say "the world... except China". Bc in your scenario, CHINA would be doing quite well!
JSF: They know that the world would be screwed. Particularly when the world is all speaking Chinese and it is too late to reconsider how good it was when America wasn't Unconstitutionally Woke.
All this to say that I think your view of "the world" is very narrow.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM
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Quote:Canada spends less on healthcare than the USA. 12.2% of GDP for Canada and 18.3% for the USA. If you think you get a longer life in the USA than in Canada because the USA spends more, you'd be mistaken. Life expectancy at birth, total (years) Canada 83, United States 76 (2021)
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There isn't a country in Europe, or Canada for that matter, that would have "free" healthcare if they weren't able to rely on the US taxpayer military. They'd all be conquered by countries much worse than ours if they tried it.
Meanwhile, military spending is 1.3% of GDP for Canada and 3.5% for the USA.
Overall health expenditure will represent 12.2% of Canada’s gross domestic product (GDP) in 2022
https://www.cihi.ca/en/national-health-expenditure-trends-2022-snapsho
t
National Health Expenditure Data for the USA is 18.3% of Gross Domestic Product (GDP).
https://www.cms.gov/research-statistics-data-and-systems/statistics-tr
ends-and-reports/nationalhealthexpenddata/nhe-fact-sheet
Military expenditure (% of GDP) – Canada 1.3%, United States 3.5%
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/MS.MIL.XPND.GD.ZS?locations=CA-US
There are many more comparisons between Canada and US where Canadian citizens have better lives than USA citizens.
https://data.worldbank.org/?locations=CA-US
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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So there is a 'strange' fact, Russia did not expand under Trump but it engaged in some warmongering with Bush junior and Cheney in power in the United States. During the Obama-Biden admin, Russians were involved in some wars during this period, during Obama Putin also continued some smaller conflicts.
For some reason a lot of countries were quite, terrorist groups less active and Empire was less expansionist under the years of Trump and yet Donald Trump was accused of isolationism.
Perhaps a lot of leaders seen an 'old man' elected when Trump lots, or a perception of possible old guy weakness as Joe Biden and Kamala Harris came to power.
North Korea fires intercontinental ballistic missile after threatening US
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-66172284
War crimes in Tigray may be covered up or forgotten
https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2023/07/09/war-crimes
-in-tigray-may-be-covered-up-or-forgotten
World ‘sleepwalking into another 9/11’ as Taliban welcome al-Qaeda back to Afghanistan
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1788662/afghanistan-taliban-al-qa
eda-terrorist-attack-911
Republican lawmaker blasts State Dept response on US envoy for Iran
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/republican-lawmaker-blasts-state-dept-000736
820.html
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Canada spends less on healthcare than the USA. 12.2% of GDP for Canada and 18.3% for the USA. If you think you get a longer life in the USA than in Canada because the USA spends more, you'd be mistaken. Life expectancy at birth, total (years) Canada 83, United States 76 (2021)
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There isn't a country in Europe, or Canada for that matter, that would have "free" healthcare if they weren't able to rely on the US taxpayer military. They'd all be conquered by countries much worse than ours if they tried it.
Meanwhile, military spending is 1.3% of GDP for Canada and 3.5% for the USA.
Overall health expenditure will represent 12.2% of Canada’s gross domestic product (GDP) in 2022
https://www.cihi.ca/en/national-health-expenditure-trends-2022-snapsho
t
National Health Expenditure Data for the USA is 18.3% of Gross Domestic Product (GDP).
https://www.cms.gov/research-statistics-data-and-systems/statistics-tr
ends-and-reports/nationalhealthexpenddata/nhe-fact-sheet
Military expenditure (% of GDP) – Canada 1.3%, United States 3.5%
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/MS.MIL.XPND.GD.ZS?locations=CA-US
There are many more comparisons between Canada and US where Canadian citizens have better lives than USA citizens.
https://data.worldbank.org/?locations=CA-US
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Canada let's you walk into a doctor's office and never walk out again, after requesting to be killed. Whether or not one thinks this is a good thing is subjective. Just stating the facts.
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Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
So there is a 'strange' fact, Russia did not expand under Trump but it engaged in some warmongering with Bush junior and Cheney in power in the United States. During the Obama-Biden admin, Russians were involved in some wars during this period, during Obama Putin also continued some smaller conflicts.
For some reason a lot of countries were quite, terrorist groups less active and Empire was less expansionist under the years of Trump and yet Donald Trump was accused of isolationism.
Perhaps a lot of leaders seen an 'old man' elected when Trump lots, or a perception of possible old guy weakness as Joe Biden and Kamala Harris came to power.
North Korea fires intercontinental ballistic missile after threatening US
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-66172284
War crimes in Tigray may be covered up or forgotten
https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2023/07/09/war-crimes
-in-tigray-may-be-covered-up-or-forgotten
World ‘sleepwalking into another 9/11’ as Taliban welcome al-Qaeda back to Afghanistan
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1788662/afghanistan-taliban-al-qa
eda-terrorist-attack-911
Republican lawmaker blasts State Dept response on US envoy for Iran
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/republican-lawmaker-blasts-state-dept-000736
820.html
I'd mentioned that before several times in these boards. During Trump's Administration, you didn't hear the words ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Terrorist or Jihadist in the news for 4 years.
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There have been many What If history videos and Speculation about Future Timeline
Why did the US Join World War One?
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What If: World Without the US
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some of the worst 'Collapse' theory
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Quote:What fact? That Canadians live many years longer than Americans, but don't go bankrupt from medical bills? Or that if you are an American who craves a gun for suicide, there will be a convenient gun store nearby to provide all your needs, especially if you intend murder/suicide.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Canada spends less on healthcare than the USA. 12.2% of GDP for Canada and 18.3% for the USA. If you think you get a longer life in the USA than in Canada because the USA spends more, you'd be mistaken. Life expectancy at birth, total (years) Canada 83, United States 76 (2021)
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There isn't a country in Europe, or Canada for that matter, that would have "free" healthcare if they weren't able to rely on the US taxpayer military. They'd all be conquered by countries much worse than ours if they tried it.
Meanwhile, military spending is 1.3% of GDP for Canada and 3.5% for the USA.
Overall health expenditure will represent 12.2% of Canada’s gross domestic product (GDP) in 2022
https://www.cihi.ca/en/national-health-expenditure-trends-2022-snapsho
t
National Health Expenditure Data for the USA is 18.3% of Gross Domestic Product (GDP).
https://www.cms.gov/research-statistics-data-and-systems/statistics-tr
ends-and-reports/nationalhealthexpenddata/nhe-fact-sheet
Military expenditure (% of GDP) – Canada 1.3%, United States 3.5%
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/MS.MIL.XPND.GD.ZS?locations=CA-US
There are many more comparisons between Canada and US where Canadian citizens have better lives than USA citizens.
https://data.worldbank.org/?locations=CA-US
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Canada let's you walk into a doctor's office and never walk out again, after requesting to be killed. Whether or not one thinks this is a good thing is subjective. Just stating the facts.
If the US had the same suicide rates as in Canada, we estimate there would be approximately 25.9% fewer US suicide fatalities, equivalent to 11,630 suicide fatalities averted each year. This decline would be driven by a 79.3% lower rate of firearm-specific suicide fatalities.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7192495/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:It is called Liberation.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:193, and two UN observer states.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
What happens?
The world gets screwed. Most of the World knows this. Not sure howmany Americans do in this age of Fake News.
SIGNY: Nah.
JSF: We are all familiar with your negativity,constantly.
How many nations are in the world today?Quote:
How many of those nations do not have citizens who dream of immigrating to the United States of America?Quote:HUH???
JSF: I understand that you believe that America conquered France - twice - and absorbed it.
When have I posted about France??
What's your point?
Quote:cleaning up Clinton's mess, and Libtard RINOsQuote:I think you mean "overthrow, and install compliant dictatorships
JSF: Yet France does not currently speak English from border to border. Nor German. Same with most Yurpeen nations. And Japan, South Korea, Middle East.
Sure, Libtards and other Democrats love to tinker with the governments of other nations,Quote:It's been a bipartisan project. Just look at GWB
just like Ike warned against, but America still supposedly elected more and more Libtards to start up these wars and coups.
Quote:The Belligerents of the world are not expected to be rational or reasonable, hence Kaiser Wilhelm and Hitler.
John McCain and Lindsey Graham.Quote:I don't think Iraqis or Libyans or Syrians or Serbians or Iranians or Chinese or Russians or Venezuelans or Nicaraguans are in a very forgiving mood.
JSF: But the folks who live in those nations are able to see around the nonsense, to some degree.
Quote:Are you confused?Quote:it seems that, according to you, China isn't part of the world? Bc when you say "the world" would be screwed I think you mean to say "the world... except China". Bc in your scenario, CHINA would be doing quite well!
JSF: They know that the world would be screwed. Particularly when the world is all speaking Chinese and it is too late to reconsider how good it was when America wasn't Unconstitutionally Woke.
I said speaking Chinese. You translate this into "all residents of China want to never leave China, nor go anywhere else, and know the Communist Dictatorship is the greatest Utopia on Earth" in your delusions. When I clearly implied that the vast majority of China resident slaves are already screwed by their own country.
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Spanish invasion of immigrants and speakers are far more likely to dominate English speaker culture, its happens in Puerto Rico. Only in Spain do you see English tourists arrive and try to buy up local Spain property, in the USA the Spanish culture expands and foreign-born population residing in the U.S. reached a record 45 million most are Hispanic. I don't get why people think 'Chinese' as a language would spread so easy it has always been culturally stuck around regions in Asia, the Yangtze River, the Yellow River, the Pearl River, the Huaihe River and rarely ever spread past its borders, ok you see it in a scifi tv show and movie 'Firefly' but do you guys not know what kind of a pain in the ass it was for the Cast to look at symbolism they knew little of or pronounce words, grammar, phrases and sentences they had little connection to? There are Chinatowns, Koreatowns, Little Tokyo, Little Italy but after a while a community can be a natural citizen after generations, the Spanish culture seems to be less able to become American English speaking. It is far more difficult for Chinese to spread because it is not easy to learn like Spanish. Without exposure and good effort it can take almost a life time to learn Mandarin Chinese, it has no real direct link or connection to English, Alphabets and Script a totally different like Mongolian script is different, Georgian scripts, Greek alphabet, Korean Hangul, Russian Cyrillic script, tough if you don't read their alphabet script you can see writing and know absolutely nothing and these 'Alphabets' are far easier than Chinese you only have to learn a few in other languages and they are all tone based.. Chinese is a series of pictures, thousands of different characters before you read, almost endless idea picture stacked into another idea picture. Hong Kong people the Cantonese readers and speakers or Japanese readers and speakers share so kind of root with Chinese Mandarin but not always, they have also changed to pictures to more simple forms to improve reading and writing so even Asian languages that know 'Chinese' characters might not read everything. It also has thing bending of notes, a kind of rise and fall of singing notes up or down or 'flat'. There is no way Chinese is going to spread among a population outside its border as quick as an immigrant Spanish population spreads inside the USA. Spanish or Norwegian or Afrikaans or German or French or Portuguese or Filipino Tagalog or Italian are far more easier languages to adapt to for a person of English speaking heritage, the USA has far more Spanish speaking immigrants. The immigrant population might no longer speak the original Spanish the language might even change to a mix of Spanglish, a mix of dialect from Spanish speaking regions mixed with English, new and old Spanish and Jive creole ebonics and Spanish slang. A Mexico origin foreign-born population of Ten Million plus comes to the USA each year 10,550,000 + every year moving across the border.
Having an Open border with Mexico means the Hispanic culture of Latin America will be the largest immigrant culture, the Latin culture is going to cross the USA's border.
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