***** Sound of Freedom
POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 03:13
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I suspect that this movie was pretty front-loaded on viewership and don't really expect it to stay in theaters all that long, but with good word of mouth it should have a pretty decent first weekend in theaters and very easily jump past that predicted $20 Million in the first 6 days of release with more than $14.2 Million already under its belt on Tuesday.
And no matter what happens, it will be the movie that embarrassed Indiana Jones, Disney, Lucasfilm, Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy by taking the crown from their most expensive movie of 2023 in only it's 5th day in the theaters. An amazing feat, even if we don't see it repeated again this weekend or otherwise going forward.
It didn't beat Indy 5 yesterday, but it did do another $4,047,558 in business, giving it $18,289,621 in only 2 days. It's going to sleepwalk past $20 Million in only 3 days.
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No numbers on Indy yet, but that's another correct prediction.
$3,697,749 on Thursday, for a grand total of $21,987,370 in only 3 days for Sound of Freedom.
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In 3 days, almost up to $22M Box Office.
$1,400 per theater on a Thursday, when honest folk are busy working for a living.
Remember, Tuesday shows were Sold Out an hour before showtimes.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
In 3 days, almost up to $22M Box Office.
$1,400 per theater on a Thursday, when honest folk are busy working for a living.
Remember, Tuesday shows were Sold Out an hour before showtimes.
Word of mouth has been a great help to this flick, plus it's getting good reviews (Not great) from the critics because there's no 'message'. I'm sure many critics thought it was going to be a right-wing message pic BUT, when they saw it wasn't they gave it good reviews...not great ones.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I suspect that this movie was pretty front-loaded on viewership and don't really expect it to stay in theaters all that long, but with good word of mouth it should have a pretty decent first weekend in theaters and very easily jump past that predicted $20 Million in the first 6 days of release with more than $14.2 Million already under its belt on Tuesday.
And no matter what happens, it will be the movie that embarrassed Indiana Jones, Disney, Lucasfilm, Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy by taking the crown from their most expensive movie of 2023 in only it's 5th day in the theaters. An amazing feat, even if we don't see it repeated again this weekend or otherwise going forward.
It didn't beat Indy 5 yesterday, but it did do another $4,047,558 in business, giving it $18,289,621 in only 2 days. It's going to sleepwalk past $20 Million in only 3 days.
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How you do anything is how you do everything.
No numbers on Indy yet, but that's another correct prediction.
$3,697,749 on Thursday, for a grand total of $21,987,370 in only 3 days for Sound of Freedom.
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How you do anything is how you do everything.
Though it looks to have taken only 3rd place this weekend like Bruce predicted it would from the previews, it will cross $40 Million in only 6 days, which is double what they thought it would in that time frame.
I've also now heard that the budget was as low as $14 Million, and not the $20 Million that was initially reported.
Either way, it's already overcome the rule of thumb, grossing over $40 Million over a $20 Million budget. Given that there was hardly any marketing budget at all spent on this, if that $14 Million production budget is true it's already made some decent money in under a week.
I still think this was quite a heavily front loaded movie as far as attendance goes, but it should remain in theaters at least as long as Angel Studio's 1st movie earlier this year, which means it will probably get about 4 or 5 weeks in the box office. I could see it making $60 to $70 million in ticket sales by that time. Not bad for a movie nobody knew about that doesn't appear to have gotten any kind of international release.
Who knows? If word of mouth on this thing is strong it might even do better than that.
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I think the green numbers at The Numbers is prelim or estimated figures, and black are the real figures.
They just turned black for the weekend.
Sunday SoF jumped up to highest take per screen, beating Indy5 and Red Door. It was estimated behind Red Door.
Also, every single day since release, SoF has more $ per screen that Indy5.
Even when it added more than 13% more theaters for the weekend.
let's see...
For the days when working folk are not working...
Date | DBO Rnk PrScrn Rnk
4Jul 14.24 | 1 $5,407 1
8Jul 7.176 | 3 $2,431 2
9Jul 7.295 | 3 $2,471 1
other days...
5Jul 4.047 | 2 $1,537 1
6Jul 3.697 | 3 $1,404 2
7Jul 5.208 | 3 $1,764 2
Quote:So, this front-loading theory of yours - how long does it last?
I suspect that this movie was pretty front-loaded on viewership and don't really expect it to stay in theaters all that long, but with good word of mouth it should have a pretty decent first weekend in theaters and very easily jump past that predicted $20 Million in the first 6 days of release with more than $14.2 Million already under its belt on Tuesday.
Does it pull ahead of Red Door $/screen over the weekend?
I don't expect it to take out MI:8.
Will SoF fall behind Indy5 and Red Door in $/screen?
How else do you measure?
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I should have mentioned 2000 Mules, but that was Documentary.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
So, this front-loading theory of yours - how long does it last?
Does it pull ahead of Red Door $/screen over the weekend?
I don't expect it to take out MI:8.
Will SoF fall behind Indy5 and Red Door in $/screen?
How else do you measure?
Interesting find there, that SoF took more per screen than Insidious did on Sunday. I didn't see that until you pointed it out, and I haven't heard anybody mention it.
Nice catch.
No. It won't even put a dent in MI:7 (8 doesn't come out until 2024). Tom Cruise is still Box Office gold and the MI franchise is an easy win against any of the movies that have come out in 2023 except possibly the SMB phenomenon.
Maybe I'm wrong about SoF. I don't want to be. I want this movie to succeed beyond anyone's expectations. But it does have two huge things going against it...
1. The entire Legacy Media is telling the normies not to go see it.
2. I haven't seen it yet, but from what I hear from people who sing its praises is that it's not an easy watch. Unless people are going back to see it again while dragging other people to see it, I can't imagine a lot of people thinking "boy. I'm so excited to see this movie for a second time.".
I mean, I liked Joker quite a bit more than most movies I've seen in the last decade, but it was a grueling watch and I don't ever intend to watch it again. And that movie wasn't based at all on reality.
I wish SoF all the best, and I do hope that I'm wrong and it has a very long run and educates a lot of people who've still got the blinders on.
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Quote:let's see...
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I think the green numbers at The Numbers is prelim or estimated figures, and black are the real figures.
They just turned black for the weekend.
Sunday SoF jumped up to highest take per screen, beating Indy5 and Red Door. It was estimated behind Red Door.
Also, every single day since release, SoF has more $ per screen that Indy5.
Even when it added more than 13% more theaters for the weekend.
For the days when working folk are not working...
Date | DBO Rnk /Scrn Rnk
04Jul 14.24 1 $5,407 1
08Jul 7.176 3 $2,431 2
09Jul 7.295 3 $2,471 1
other days...
05Jul 4.047 2 $1,537 1
06Jul 3.697 3 $1,404 2
07Jul 5.208 3 $1,764 2
10Jul 4.000 1 $1,355 1
Quote:Quote:So, this front-loading theory of yours - how long does it last?
I suspect that this movie was pretty front-loaded on viewership and don't really expect it to stay in theaters all that long, but with good word of mouth it should have a pretty decent first weekend in theaters and very easily jump past that predicted $20 Million in the first 6 days of release with more than $14.2 Million already under its belt on Tuesday.
Does it pull ahead of Red Door $/screen over the weekend?
I don't expect it to take out MI:8.
Will SoF fall behind Indy5 and Red Door in $/screen?
How else do you measure?
Sound of Freedom is currently listed by the Numbers as having the 6th most theaters showing it, after bumping up that figure for the weekend.
First place for the day, again.
6ix, what do you expect to see for it's Last Week drop %? when Tuesday numbers come out?
Since that might not be fair, having July 4 a day off and all, what do you expect to see as the Last Week drop on Wednesday?
I forgot to note that Sunday SoF was the only film to have greater Box Office than on Saturday.
Yes, today Indy 5 is in 3rd place with Monday's Box Office.
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Quote:1. I didn't know this. Does this mean that only folk who can think are allowed to watch it? That can seriously cut down on the potential saturation of audience. Let's see.... With about 267 million above 16, minus 85 million who supposedly are not allowed to think, that leaves only 182 million to see the film.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
So, this front-loading theory of yours - how long does it last?
Does it pull ahead of Red Door $/screen over the weekend?
I don't expect it to take out MI:8.
Will SoF fall behind Indy5 and Red Door in $/screen?
How else do you measure?
Interesting find there, that SoF took more per screen than Insidious did on Sunday. I didn't see that until you pointed it out, and I haven't heard anybody mention it.
Nice catch.
No. It won't even put a dent in MI:7 (8 doesn't come out until 2024). Tom Cruise is still Box Office gold and the MI franchise is an easy win against any of the movies that have come out in 2023 except possibly the SMB phenomenon.
Maybe I'm wrong about SoF. I don't want to be. I want this movie to succeed beyond anyone's expectations. But it does have two huge things going against it...
1. The entire Legacy Media is telling the normies not to go see it.
2. I haven't seen it yet, but from what I hear from people who sing its praises is that it's not an easy watch. Unless people are going back to see it again while dragging other people to see it, I can't imagine a lot of people thinking "boy. I'm so excited to see this movie for a second time.".
2. I do plan on seeing Sound of Freedom again, in cinema. The action, adventure is good, all the more due to being True Story. I plan to see at lest one film next Sunday. Either Dead Reckoning or SoF, or both.
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I mean, I liked Joker quite a bit more than most movies I've seen in the last decade, but it was a grueling watch and I don't ever intend to watch it again. And that movie wasn't based at all on reality.
I wish SoF all the best, and I do hope that I'm wrong and it has a very long run and educates a lot of people who've still got the blinders on.
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Quote:The pertinent similarity is the Investigative aspect.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I should have mentioned 2000 Mules, but that was Documentary.
2000 Mules wass a documentary about a bunch of investigative work on many fronts, regarding many crimes, and on a humungus scale, spanning every State in America..
Sound of Freedom has a few different investigations, blossoming from the prior levels. These end up being larger in terms of International reach, but still more concise and pointed than the Election.
Both films highlight known crimes, known practices, but track down the details.
Every reasonable person has always known Election 2020 was stolen, but 2000 Mules spells out much of the details, methods, practices of the crimes.
Every reasonable person has already known that Obama and Biden are major Child Sex Slave Traffickers, and have opened the border for the Cartels to fuel their personal wealth, and that Child Sex Slave Trafficking was choked off under Trump, abd flourishing again under Obiden. But SoF helps detail some of the ground-level details of a few individual cases.
I have been hearing media interacting with Jim Caviezel. I am getting the impression that they are trying to portray him as another Kirk Cameron douchebag. Like, trying to force his own personal brand of religion down everybody's throat.
I have never felt this was the case with Jim.
I have enjoyed his work. i enjoyed him in Wyatt Earp, G.I.Jane, Thin Red Line, Frequency. Pay It Forward is one of my favorite films. Angel Eyes, Count of Monte Cristo, High Crimes, Deja Vu, Escape Plan.
i loved that he did person of Interest. I kept trying to watch those episodes each week, mostly coming back to see his scenes. His scenes were the real pull for that series. They make me think he could have done Nobody very well.
In Sound of Freedom, he does well. But he also does not force the camera to show him as the central star of every scene, like we will likely see with TC in Dead Reckoning. Jim has many scenes where I felt he steps back and melds into the scenes, can be absorbed among the ensemble cast. While in other scenes, he is the force of the story moving forward, he doesn't stand down.
I look forward to seeing it again, in cinema.
The unsavory scenes, establishing the horrendous underlying theme of the crimes in the film, are not graphic, not in your face, but merely implied, enough for the adult viewer to know what is going on.
Ron Eldard once had an interview discussion about working on a film like this, with a child, and not letting the child know enough to damage their innocence - while still getting the performances which the film needs.
The girl is now old enough (5 years later) to not only understand what it is about, but even to see the film within the Rating Advisory.
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