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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Saturday, July 1, 2023 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Prigozhin May Be Gone, but Not the Failings He Ranted About

MORE NYT BS.


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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

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Saturday, July 1, 2023 4:23 PM

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... was a rotten person years before Trump came along.
I've never been a rotten person and CERTAINLY not a lying, sociopathic killer like you.

It is very simple what you have done. Signym, you have repeatedly denied or ignored that Russia murdered millions and millions of Ukrainians. That makes you rotten to the core. I can smell your decay. The stench is offensive and the fumes are choking but you can't smell yourself. Maybe you need to see an otolaryngologist?

For people who aren't aware that Russians are mass murderers, there is a book:

Lethal Politics: Soviet Genocide and Mass Murder since 1917 by R. J. Rummel
Download the free book from http://libgen.is/search.php?req=R.+J.+Rummel

Purchase the book from https://www.amazon.com/Lethal-Politics-Soviet-Genocide-Murder-ebook/dp
/B073RQ94KF
/

If reading a book is too much, there are websites about Russians and their murderous ways. Try googling Holodomor. https://www.google.com/search?q=holodomor

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, July 1, 2023 4:26 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by second:
Prigozhin May Be Gone, but Not the Failings He Ranted About

MORE NYT BS.

Russian officials and occupation authorities are attempting to explain away the deportation of Ukrainian children to Russia. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov claimed on June 30 that Russia placed 300 Ukrainian orphans in occupied Ukraine under the foster care of Russian families in Russia.[88] Lavrov claimed that Russia publicizes the names of Ukrainian children and claimed that any direct family member can take these children out of foster care. Lavrov added that dozens of children have been picked up from their foster families. Lavrov emphasized that these children were not adopted but placed under preliminary guardianship and claimed that of all 700,000 children who entered Russia from occupied Ukraine, only 2,000 children were orphans from Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts. Kherson Oblast Occupation Ministry of Natural Resources and Ecology announced that 18 school children from occupied Kherson Oblast went to children’s camp “We Are the Children of the Volga” in Yaroslavl Oblast, Russia. The ministry claimed that the program will last 10 days.[89]

Russian citizens are purchasing real estate in destroyed and occupied Mariupol city.[90] Russian investigative outlet Bumaga reported that Russian officials began selling real estate in Mariupol as early as May 3, 2022.[91] Some Russian real estate websites reportedly list and sell Mariupol apartments on average for three million rubles (about $33,780).

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-june-30-2023


Russia has a motive for stealing children. About a million Russians recently left Russia to avoid being drafted into this war. Several million more died from Covid. Russia is in a downward spiral, demographically, and needs more people. Ukraine has people, so why not steal some? And why not steal some real estate, too?

If you want to know how bad Russian demographics are, there is https://www.google.com/search?q=russia+demographics

Here is a cute little fact about Russia: What is the male-to-female ratio in Russia?
The Russia Gender Ratio is 86 men to 100 women (86:100) or 0.86. Russia's gender ratio is lower than the global average of 101 men to 100 women (101:100) or 1.01. Russian men are leaving Russia, either dead or alive, to avoid being Russian. Therefore Russia needs more children to compensate for deaths and emigration. That is why Russians are stealing Ukrainian children.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, July 1, 2023 5:01 PM

Russia’s population nightmare is going to get even worse

War in Ukraine has aggravated a crisis that long predates the conflict

A DEMOGRAPHIC TRAGEDY is unfolding in Russia. Over the past three years the country has lost around 2m more people than it would ordinarily have done, as a result of war, disease and exodus. The life expectancy of Russian males aged 15 fell by almost five years, to the same level as in Haiti. The number of Russians born in April 2022 was no higher than it had been in the months of Hitler’s occupation. And because so many men of fighting age are dead or in exile, women now outnumber men by at least 10m.

War is not the sole—or even the main—cause of these troubles, but it has made them all worse. According to Western estimates, 175,000-250,000 Russian soldiers have been killed or wounded in the past year (Russia’s figures are lower). Somewhere between 500,000 and 1m mostly young, educated people have evaded the meat-grinder by fleeing abroad. Even if Russia had no other demographic problems, losing so many in such a short time would be painful. As it is, the losses of war are placing more burdens on a shrinking, ailing population. Russia may be entering a doom loop of demographic decline.



The roots of Russia’s crisis go back 30 years. The country reached peak population in 1994, with 149m people. The total has since zig-zagged downwards. It was 145m in 2021 (that figure, from the UN, excludes the 2.4m people of Crimea, which Russia seized in 2014 and incorporated into its national accounts). According to UN projections, the total could be just 120m in 50 years, if current patterns persist. That would make Russia the 15th-most-populous country in the world, down from sixth in 1995. According to Alexei Raksha, an independent demographer who used to work for the state statistics service, if you look just at peacetime years, the number of births registered in April 2022 was the lowest since the 18th century. April was a particularly cruel month, but it was a revealing glimpse of a chronic problem.

Population decline is not unique to Russia: most post-communist states have seen dips, though not like this. Their declines have been slow but also manageable. Russia’s population in recent decades has seen a precipitous slump, then a partial recovery (thanks to a period of high immigration from parts of the ex-Soviet Union and more generous child allowances after 2007), followed by a renewed fall.

According to the state statistics agency, in 2020 and 2021 combined the country’s population declined by 1.3m; deaths outstripped births by 1.7m. (The UN also shows a fall, but it is shallower.) The decline was largest among ethnic Russians, whose number, the census of 2021 said, fell by 5.4m in 2010-21. Their share of the population fell from 78% to 72%. So much for Mr Putin’s boast to be expanding the Russki mir (Russian world).

All this began before the war and reflects Russia’s appalling covid pandemic. The official death toll from the disease was 388,091, which would be relatively low; but The Economist estimates total excess deaths in 2020-23 at between 1.2m and 1.6m. That would be comparable to the number in China and the United States, which have much larger populations. Russia may have had the largest covid death toll in the world after India, and the highest mortality rate of all, with 850-1,100 deaths per 100,000 people.

If you add pandemic mortality to the casualties of war and the flight from mobilisation, Russia lost between 1.9m and 2.8m people in 2020-23 on top of its normal demographic deterioration. That would be even worse than during the disastrous early 2000s, when the population was falling by roughly half a million a year.



What might that mean for Russia’s future? Demography is not always destiny; and Russia

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Monday, July 3, 2023 2:39 AM

OMG, this is sickening. But it is the reality of war.

This shows why the Ukrainian counteroffensive failed. It is a Bradley vehicle attempting to rescue soldiers from a shelled field thickly salted with anti- personnel mines. Most of the soldiers have bits blown off and are trying to drag themselves to safety. Towards the end of the video, one soldier, trying to rescue another, jumps from the Bradley into a hole made by an exploded mine - thinking it was safe- and trips another mine. His leg is blown off at the knee. He quickly ties a tourniquet around his thigh, drags himself back to the Bradley with a bunch of meat hanging from his knee, leaving a bloody trail.

Not for the faint of stomach. Horrible to watch, so much worse to experience.

The link won't open directly from here, but I will open from this article.

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Also, as some might have seen recently, a new video was released showing the full bore devastation and horror of AFU’s failed Zaporozhye assault on the Orekhov direction. It’s one of the more graphic videos of the war thus far, but it’s extremely enlightening in terms of how Russia’s now-famous minefields truly wreaked havoc on the elite 47th brigade. Warning, it’s brutal but shows the intractable horror of mine warfare and how even their precious M2 Bradleys couldn’t help them: Video Link.

https://odysee.com/@Overthrown:6/video_2023-06-26_13-46-30:9

Look for video link here...
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-63023-winds-gather-before

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

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Monday, July 3, 2023 3:07 AM

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OMG, this is sickening. But it is the reality of war.

• The former chief rabbi of Moscow is urging Jews to leave Russia.

• Rabbi Pinchas Goldschmidt himself fled the country following last year's invasion of Ukraine.

• Russia on Friday labeled Goldschmidt a "foreign agent," citing his opposition to the war.

The former chief rabbi of Moscow is urging his fellow Jews to leave Russia immediately, warning that the country has fundamentally changed after the Ukraine invasion.

In a statement on Saturday, Rabbi Pinchas Goldschmidt, who himself fled the country in March 2022, noted that he had spent three decades supporting the Jews of Russia. But Goldschmidt, who now resides in Israel, said his coreligionists should get out too, having previously warned that they risk being scapegoated for the failure of Russia's "special military operation."

"Russia has changed its face," he said in a July 1 statement, as reported by The Jerusalem Post. "I call on the Jewish community to leave the country, before it is too late."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/jews-should-leave-russia-before-i
t-s-too-late-says-former-chief-rabbi-of-moscow/ar-AA1dkKu0


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, July 3, 2023 4:09 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
OMG, this is sickening.

The children Russia kidnapped (The Atlantic)

First they were spirited off to camps, or evacuated from cities under siege. Then they were made into Russians without history or provenance.

Lauren Wolfe

Jul 1, 2023

You may have read that Russia is stealing Ukraine’s children. But what you haven’t read before is an aspect I reported on for The Atlantic magazine, in a story out today. Not only are the Russians spiriting children across the border and forcing them to speak their language, but they are also erasing the tracks that would one day help reunite the kids with their Ukrainian families. The Russians are changing their names, adopting them out and preventing their promised return home — and, in the process, they’re obfuscating the fact that the children ever came from Ukraine.

From the article:

Amid the bombast of Russia’s one-year celebration of its war in Ukraine, a 15-year-old with thick, black hair and a gray hooded jacket was handed a microphone. In front of thousands of cheering people, Anya Naumenko thanked “Uncle Yuri”—a Russian soldier known as Yuri Gagarin—for saving her, her sister, and “hundreds of thousands of children in Mariupol,” the Ukrainian city that fell under heavy attack from the first day of Russia’s cross-border invasion, in February 2022.

Having recited words she’d clearly been told to memorize, Anya sheepishly turned to the adults next to her and said, “I forgot a little.”

“Anya,” said a woman in a stop-sign-red coat, quickly covering for the slipup, “don’t be shy! Go hug Uncle Yuri!”

Anya gave the soldier a one-armed side hug as the woman said to a handful of younger children onstage: “Everyone give a hug. Look! It’s the man who saved you all!”

Aired on CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360, the video was followed by an interview with Nathaniel Raymond, the executive director of Yale University’s Humanitarian Research Lab.

“It’s absolutely stomach-churning,” Raymond told the CNN host. “That, for me, Anderson, that’s a hostage video.”

Forcibly removed from Ukraine, used as leverage, “reeducated,” and “Russified,” the children at the center of Russia’s agitprop are the potential victims of war crimes and crimes against humanity. They are, Raymond told me in a recent interview, “pawns in a hostile situation,” and Russia’s treatment of them, far from that of a kind savior, violates the Geneva Conventions and the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, among other instruments of international humanitarian law.

Russian authorities have gone so far as to make what appears to be an official, concerted effort to cover the tracks that may lead to the Ukrainian children’s eventual recovery. Processed into the Russian system, the children no longer go by their given names, practice the religions they were raised in, or communicate with their families. They are entered into an adoption system that takes pains to cover up their provenance, an effort that Ukrainian advocates say not only makes the children untraceable, but forms part of a larger project of cultural erasure.

To read the rest of the story, please click over to The Atlantic via https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-children-russia-kidnapped/ar-
AA1di5e6


https://chills.substack.com/p/the-children-russia-kidnapped-the

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, July 3, 2023 6:10 AM

OMG!!! HORRIBLE!
Children evacuated from a war zone!


I'll bet there's no video. Just more blah blah blah from SECOND's endless wellspring of psyops.

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Monday, July 3, 2023 6:25 AM

I think, in the end, the real effect of Prigozhin's antics (if there is any) would be on nations that are leaning towards Russia, like Saudi Arabia or Brazil.

Like bullied kids on a playground, these nations are very sensitive to shifts in power. If a champion, or even a reasonable kid, is able to challenge the bullies, the bullied group will cautiously start to shelter under the challenger. But will be ever-alert to any indication that the challenger might fail.

Most of these nations, tho, themselves victims of destabilization, seem in fact to be reassured by the outcome. But we'll just have to wait and see what eventually shakes out.

In the meantime, the Kremliyseems happy to let its fifth column go. Some who have left regret their choice and are attemping to return. I wonder if Russia will let them back in?

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

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Monday, July 3, 2023 7:04 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
OMG!!! HORRIBLE!
Children evacuated from a war zone!


I'll bet there's no video. Just more blah blah blah from SECOND's endless wellspring of psyops.

Report On Violations And Abuses Of International Humanitarian And Human Rights Law, War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity, Related To The Forcible Transfer And/Or Deportation Of Ukrainian Children To The Russian Federation

https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/7/7/542751.pdf

Signym, I'd include some paragraphs from the report, but you can't even read the title because it has too many words for a Trumptard to finish reading. Even this sentence was too long for you to finish.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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