Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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The people of eastern Ukraine initially looked to the OSCE for justice, hoping that it would reveal Kiev's illegal shelling of their homes to the world. Ultimately they learned to despise the OSCE for the blind eye that it consistently turned to their suffering and death. They wound up painting OSCE GO HOME on buildings and vandalizing OSCE vehicles. I've seen the pic and videos.
What the media portrays as "objective" NGOs are usually just western policy extensions. Like the OPCW upper- up that completely reversed the investigators' field report, from saying a "gassing" had been staged (by extremists) to saying that Assad "gassed his people".
We would nwver have found out if it hadn't been for a courageous investigator who risked his career to blow the whistle.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
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Fuck Ukraine.
#Rootin4Putin
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Signym, you know I check your statements. All 6 reactors are shutdown, producing no electricity.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If Russia ruins the power plant -which it controls, is in its territory, and supplies electricity to its portion of the former Ukraine - not only will it lose electricity from the Europe's largest npp, it will face a monumental cleanup of the facility itself and the surrounding area.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-asks-iaea-ensure-zaporizhz
hia-nuclear-plant-security-2023-06-23/
In a final show of contempt for Ukrainians and their property and farmlands, if Russia blows up these reactors because it lost the war, Russia will not clean this up any more than clean up the damage Russia has done elsewhere in Ukraine.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Why in god's name would they blow up their own reactors? There's no benefit to Russia, and all cost. ZNPP may not be producing electricity today, but it can, and will, in future. Depriving yourself of a vital resource is just plain stupid. And so far, Russia has been conducting it's war and economy in a risk-aversive, methodical, professional fashion. It's the west that's been taking big gambles.
Military Summary Channel... and remember, this is a PRO Ukrainian channel... talks about the possibility of Ukraine capturing or destroying the ZNPP (and blaming it on Russia) which in his estimation sounds pretty difficult. Bc it's in "cold shutdown" he discounts the idea of causing a nuclear explosion, and says the only way anyone would think that there's a problem in the plant is the radiological meters around the plant. What he suggests the Ukrainians do is create the APPEARANCE of plant sabotage or mining, by shelling the ZNPP area with shells containing some radioactive materials, causing a spike in the monitors and creating the justification for (presumably) NATO entry into Ukraine. Remember, this is a PRO -Ukrainian channel
Begins appx 5:00
Now that's what I call naked desperation.
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Quote:The reactors aren't Russia's. And if Putin kept a tally of the cost he wouldn't be destroying Ukrainian real estate. Instead, he'd be hitting very different targets. I could tell you that I know how to fight a war, but you wouldn't believe me. I'll keep it simple: this is NOT how Russia should fight a war if Putin and his MoD knew what they were doing. And the Ukrainians? When they were at the War College, they were lackadaisical students. Now that they are doing it for real, it is pretty obvious to experts, but not themselves, what they are doing wrong. It is the battle of Dumb vs Dumber, Ukraine vs Russia. The Ukrainians have had 10 years to figure out and then build or buy what they need to destroy the Kursk Bridge, but the bridge is still open. How dumb can the Ukrainians be? And the drones Ukraine allegedly sent in vain to Moscow? If the Ukrainians actually did it, it was utterly inane of them. Do the Ukrainians have no smarter ideas than the Russians do about what to target?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Why in god's name would they blow up their own reactors? There's no benefit to Russia, and all cost. ZNPP may not be producing electricity today, but it can, and will, in future. Depriving yourself of a vital resource is just plain stupid. And so far, Russia has been conducting it's war and economy in a risk-aversive, methodical, professional fashion. It's the west that's been taking big gambles.
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Grueling Combat Ahead in Ukrainian Counteroffensive
Expecting a quick retreat, a volunteer Ukrainian unit instead faced two days of tough resistance from dug-in Russian forces.
July 2, 2023Updated 5:34 a.m. ET
The Ukrainian soldiers thought the Russians would quickly retreat from Neskuchne, a tiny village in southern Ukraine, especially after a concerted artillery barrage and a rocket strike on their headquarters.
Instead, the Russians dug in, fighting for two days before giving up the village last month, leaving their dead decaying on the roadside and piles of expended ammunition around their makeshift defenses.
The Russian defeat, on June 9, was Ukraine’s first win in a prolonged counteroffensive that is well into its fourth week but moving at a slower pace than expected. In that respect, the battle for Neskuchne served as an early warning that Kyiv’s and the Western allies’ hopes for a quick victory were unrealistic and that every mile of their drive into Russian-occupied territory would be grueling and contested.
The dayslong battle was fought largely by a contingent of volunteer fighters who attacked on foot, not by the large, NATO-trained brigades equipped with Western tanks and armored troop transports that military analysts thought would lead the long-awaited advance.
Soldiers who described the fighting, along with visual evidence of the battle still scattered around Neskuchne two weeks after it ended, made clear that Ukraine’s success had hinged on ingenuity that helped catch the Russian forces off guard.
In the days after Neskuchne’s “liberation,” which was announced on June 10, Ukrainian forces have managed to retake several villages farther south. But since that early string of victories, Ukraine’s offensive has been slow. Ukrainian forces have been mired by staunch Russian defenses, mounting casualties and field after field of land mines.
The battle for Neskuchne pitted about 70 Ukrainian troops from the 129th Territorial Defense Brigade against roughly 150 Russian soldiers from the 60th Separate Motorized Rifle Brigade, as well as a contingent of Russian inmates-turned-soldiers known as the Storm Z unit.
“We had to liberate house after house,” said Valeriy, a soldier from the 129th brigade, who took part in the fighting and, like others in this article, is being identified only by his first name for safety reasons. “At the beginning of the counteroffensive, we thought there were no more than 20 of them.”
Neskuchne, a village of some 500 people, had been occupied by the Russians since the early months of the war, leaving ample time for Moscow’s forces there to dig in. The terrain around the village — a gradual rise to the west and the Mokri Yaly River to the east — meant that Neskuchne acted as a gateway to a string of villages to the south. In short: There was only one way in, and one way out.
The Russians knew this, and they expected that a Ukrainian advance into the village would be supported by tanks and other heavy equipment down its main, north-south road. Ukrainian soldiers who took part in the battle said that the Russian defenses had consisted of anti-tank mines and stockpiles of anti-tank missiles, some of which still remained in the Russian headquarters that was seen by The New York Times.
But the attack, at least in its early stages, did not incorporate “combined arms,” or the NATO military strategy of coordinating artillery fire with troop and tank movements that is often cited by Western military analysts and U.S. officials as critical to Ukraine’s counteroffensive success.
Instead of using tanks, which could easily be seen from the air or heard on the ground, the Ukrainians entered the village quietly, on foot and in small groups of infantry, after a World War I-style artillery bombardment.
Pictures at https://web.archive.org/web/20230703010239/https://www.nytimes.com/202
3/07/02/world/europe/ukraine-russia-counteroffensive.html
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Originally posted by second:
I could tell you that I know how to fight a war, but you wouldn't believe me.
It's true, Sigs. Second has logged over 10,000 hours playing World of Warcraft.
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Quote:ATM they are, and they will continue to be until/unless NATO can take them back.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Why in god's name would they blow up their own reactors? There's no benefit to Russia, and all cost. ZNPP may not be producing electricity today, but it can, and will, in future. Depriving yourself of a vital resource is just plain stupid. And so far, Russia has been conducting it's war and economy in a risk-aversive, methodical, professional fashion. It's the west that's been taking big gambles.
SECOND; The reactors aren't Russia's.
Quote:Big misunderstanding on your part: He IS hitting different targets. For the most part, he's hitting ammo, weapons, and fuel depots, substations serving electric train routes, command centers and troop concentrations. Not water purification plants, electricity generating stations, canals, dams, gas and oil pipelines (I leave that to Ukraine and the USA) and civilian centers (unless they house weaponry, which Ukies also do), etc.
If Putin kept a tally of the cost he wouldn't be destroying Ukrainian real estate. Instead, he'd be hitting very different targets.
Quote:Yes, the sum total of your precious "advice" is: take aim before pulling the trigger, and kill more of them without getting killed yourself.
I could tell you that I know how to fight a war, but you wouldn't believe me.
That is exactly what Russia is doing and why Ukraine is losing the war.
Troll
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If your country is not full of stupidity, millions of citizens won’t die early. But Russians, Mainland Chinese, and Trumptards don’t understand how stupidly they have run their lives and only early death will be a reminder. Go buy yourself a carton of cigarettes and enjoy, 6ix.
Death toll of World War II
Soviet Union 27,000,000
China 20,000,000
Germany 7,400,000
US 419,400
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties
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Russians learned nothing from the enormous death tolls in the past:
Russia’s Medvedev says Ukraine conflict could last ‘decades,’ talks odds of nuclear threat
Dmitry Medvedev, Russia’s former president who retains close ties with the Kremlin, on Monday said that continued Western support for Ukraine makes the prospect of a nuclear war “quite probable.”
Writing in an article for Russia’s state-owned Rossiskaya Gazeta newspaper, Medvedev said that the risk of an “apocalypse” looks more likely now than during the 1962 Cuban missile, owing in part to perceived U.S. hegemony and differing views between Moscow and the West on Ukraine.
“I will note one thing that politicians of all stripes do not like to admit: such an Apocalypse is not only possible, but also quite probable,” he said, according to a Google translation.
Medvedev, now head of Russia’s Security Council, also said that Moscow remains committed to preventing Ukraine from joining NATO, and added that the conflict could endure for decades as a result.
“Our goal is simple — to eliminate the threat of Ukraine’s membership in NATO. And we will achieve it,” Medvedev said.
“You don’t have to be a visionary to understand that the confrontation phase will be very long. The standoff will last decades,” he added.
— Karen Gilchrist
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/03/ukraine-war-live-updates-latest-news-o
n-russia-and-the-war-in-ukraine.html
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Quote:Signym, you have very strange and confused ideas about what ownership means and who is fighting, but then most Russians and Trumptards do which is why neither prospers in comparison to those who hold diametrically opposite ideas.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:ATM they are, and they will continue to be until/unless NATO can take them back.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Why in god's name would they blow up their own reactors? There's no benefit to Russia, and all cost. ZNPP may not be producing electricity today, but it can, and will, in future. Depriving yourself of a vital resource is just plain stupid. And so far, Russia has been conducting it's war and economy in a risk-aversive, methodical, professional fashion. It's the west that's been taking big gambles.
SECOND; The reactors aren't Russia's.
Russian Security Council Deputy Chairperson Dmitry Medvedev published an essay that reamplified inflammatory Russian rhetoric towards Ukraine and the West, likely to undermine support for Ukraine at the upcoming NATO summit.[12] Medvedev’s July 3 essay paints his usual alarmist rhetoric in new colors; he again portrayed the war in Ukraine as part of a broader existential conflict against the West, restated many of Putin’s extreme pre-war demands that transcended Ukraine, and implied that Russia is prepared to engage in this broader conflict for “decades” if these demands are not met.[13] Medvedev claimed that “armageddon” is “probable” if the West does not agree to negotiate a new world order with Russia, absurdly claiming that the nuclear “taboo” is broken (presumably by the US use of atomic weapons in 1945--it is otherwise entirely unclear to what he might be referring) to falsely imply that nuclear war is a certainty.[14] Medvedev attempted to portray Russia as connected to partners outside of the West despite Western sanctions, and that states not aligned with the West actively stand against it. Medvedev’s essay is consistent with his and other senior Kremlin officials’ prior attempts to scare Western states, organizations, and media prior to significant international discussions about military, political, and economic support for Ukraine and its effort to liberate Russian-held territories.[15] Medvedev’s essay is a restatement of existing Russian narratives and does not represent a true inflection in Russian political, military, or nuclear rhetoric.[16]
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-july-3-2023
https://rg-ru.translate.goog/2023/07/02/epoha-protivostoianiia.html?fb
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