Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Quote:. Blaming "Russians" for things that happened a century ago is as nuts as blaming "Germans" for the Holocaust or blaming "Americans" for genocide of the indigenes and slavery.
Originally posted by second:Quote:Russians killed 62 million Russians in the last century. That means the Russians are mass murderers. The Ukrainians know all about this, even if you don't, Signym. That is why the Ukrainians fight Russians.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
[some] ukrainians will keep fighting bc the USA keeps telling them to. other ukrainians are fighting on the other side.
But when we (or they) have to use WMD and start targeting masses of civilians, it's clear that we (or they) don't have support of 'the people '.
Btw- Zelenskiy cancelled elections for the foreseeable future. Hooray for democracy!
so ... whatever.
troll.
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So let's put those responsible on trial: the Tsar, and Lenin, and Trotsky, and Stalin....and while we're at it Hitler, Mao, and Truman, and all former American slave owners.. and Albright, Kissinger, and GWB and Hillary!
What, you say? Only Hillary and Kissinger and GWB are reachable?
Sod off, troll.
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Quote:It is a long-established pattern that Russians will murder and then follow that up with endless lies. It is absolutely no surprise that Ukrainians are fighting Russians. If the Ukrainians surrender, they will die by the millions, exactly like during Holodomor, and the Russians will deny they killed the Ukrainians. The Russians must really think they have perfected their system, but any child can see that Russians are habitual murderers.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Blaming "Russians" for things that happened a century ago is as nuts as blaming "Germans" for the Holocaust or blaming "Americans" for genocide of the indigenes and slavery.
So let's put those responsible on trial: the Tsar, and Lenin, and Trotsky, and Stalin....and while we're at it Hitler, Mao, and Truman, and all former American slave owners.. and Albright, Kissinger, and GWB and Hillary!
What, you say? Only Hillary and Kissinger and GWB are reachable?
Sod off, troll.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Holodomor
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There is "no question" that Russian President Vladimir Putin used a body double to appear at the Kremlin leader's latest public engagement in the wake of the Wagner Group armed rebellion, one expert has told Newsweek.
Following the Wagner Group of mercenaries' aborted military rebellion and advance towards Moscow on Saturday, Putin appeared before adoring crowds in the southern Russian republic of Dagestan for what the Kremlin said was a visit to discuss tourism in the region.
But footage from Putin's trip quickly reignited long-running rumors that the Kremlin leader was using a body double rather than greeting citizens himself. In clips widely circulating online on Thursday, Putin shakes hands with excited members of the public and kisses a schoolgirl on the head as she poses for a photo alongside the Russian leader.
Western journalists questioned the behavior displayed in the clips, as did prominent Russian nationalist military bloggers such as Igor Girkin.
Moscow has denied that Putin uses body doubles, with Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov dismissing reports as "yet another lie" in April. Back in 2020, Putin told state news agency Tass that he had been offered the use of stand-ins for public appearances in the early 2000s, but he "declined these body doubles." There has been no concrete proof to show Putin has used stand-ins.
However, the marked departure from Putin's observed patterns is "extraordinary," according to Matthew Wyman, a senior lecturer in politics specializing in Russia at the U.K.'s Keele University.
"There is no question that that was not Vladimir Putin," he told Newsweek on Thursday. "That was a body double."
It is "totally inconceivable" that the Russian leader would carry out an engagement in person just days after the stability of his rule was threatened by Wagner, Wyman said.
"You are not going to put yourself in any groups of unfamiliar people at all," he said.
Long-time Putin ally and head of the Wagner Group of mercenaries, Yevgeny Prigozhin, led an advance towards Moscow after his fighters seized control of the southern Russian city of Rostov-on-Don. Although his fighters abruptly stopped more than 100 miles from the capital, Western politicians and analysts said Saturday's events showed "cracks" in the Kremlin's leadership.
Wyman pointed to marked differences in Putin's demeanor compared with previous outings.
"In all sorts of ways, Putin just does not act like that," he said, adding his body language in the clips coming out of Dagestan do not match up to the past behaviors of a "man who does not show emotion publicly."
There were some observable changes to his behavior, particularly his "openness when it comes to dealing with the crowd," agreed Marina Miron, a post-doctoral researcher in the Department of War Studies at King's College London.
"This is probably the main reason why these 'double' theories started appearing," she told Newsweek on Thursday.
Putin is "highly, highly cautious about who he lets near him," Wyman added.
Multiple reports have previously said that, throughout the COVID-19 pandemic, Putin put strict quarantine measures in place to protect himself from the risk of infection. Earlier this year, a former senior Russian security officer said that the Kremlin leader "surrounds himself with an impenetrable barrier of quarantines."
"Putin is not known to let anyone close to him (since the COVID-19 pandemic), and here we see him taking selfies with normal people," Miron said.
In the footage, Putin appears "much stiffer and much more controlled in the way that he moves" than in other clips, Wyman argued.
Although he declined to discuss the specifics of how such a likeness to the Russian leader could be achieved, Wyman said the strategy around appearing in public, and in Dagestan, makes little sense.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:It is a long-established pattern that Russians will murder and then follow that up with endless lies.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Blaming "Russians" for things that happened a century ago is as nuts as blaming "Germans" for the Holocaust or blaming "Americans" for genocide of the indigenes and slavery.
So let's put those responsible on trial: the Tsar, and Lenin, and Trotsky, and Stalin....and while we're at it Hitler, Mao, and Truman, and all former American slave owners.. and Albright, Kissinger, and GWB and Hillary!
What, you say? Only Hillary and Kissinger and GWB are reachable?
Sod off, troll.
We could say the same of Americans. At least Russians kill Russians (you say). We kill EVERYBODY! Since the founding of our nation, in fact. And then we memory-hole it.
That probably explains why so many people in the world hate us. Which we also refuse to recognize.
Troll.
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Quote:Signym, you have the worst case of Whataboutism I have ever seen. It is a technique Russians habitually use to "win" every argument, at least in their own minds, but it doesn't work in reality. The Ukraine War is about Russians murdering Ukrainians. The total blame is on the Russians for what they have done to Ukrainians.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:It is a long-established pattern that Russians will murder and then follow that up with endless lies.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Blaming "Russians" for things that happened a century ago is as nuts as blaming "Germans" for the Holocaust or blaming "Americans" for genocide of the indigenes and slavery.
So let's put those responsible on trial: the Tsar, and Lenin, and Trotsky, and Stalin....and while we're at it Hitler, Mao, and Truman, and all former American slave owners.. and Albright, Kissinger, and GWB and Hillary!
What, you say? Only Hillary and Kissinger and GWB are reachable?
Sod off, troll.
We could say the same of Americans. At least Russians kill Russians (you say). We kill EVERYBODY! Since the founding of our nation, in fact. And then we memory-hole it.
That probably explains why so many people in the world hate us. Which we also refuse to recognize.
Troll.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Blaming "Russians" for things that happened a century ago is as nuts as blaming "Germans" for the Holocaust or blaming "Americans" for genocide of the indigenes and slavery.
So let's put those responsible on trial: the Tsar, and Lenin, and Trotsky, and Stalin....and while we're at it Hitler, Mao, and Truman, and all former American slave owners.. and Albright, Kissinger, and GWB and Hillary!
What, you say? Only Hillary and Kissinger and GWB are reachable?
Sod off, troll.
SECOND: It is a long-established pattern that Russians will murder and then follow that up with endless lies.
SIGNY: We could say the same of Americans. At least Russians kill Russians (you say). We kill EVERYBODY! Since the founding of our nation, in fact. And then we memory-hole it.
That probably explains why so many people in the world hate us. Which we also refuse to recognize.
Troll.
SECOND: Signym, you have the worst case of Whataboutism I have ever seen. It is a technique Russians habitually use to "win" every argument blah blah blah
Oh, and implying that I'm Russian is YOUR go-to distraction when you don't have an on-target response??
Say, don't you care about America? Don't you care about what America does, whether we're doing more harm than good, whether or not we have a solid economic, financial and social foundation? Why the hyperfocus on RUSSIA!RUSSIA? Russian history? Russian power structures? One would think that YOU'RE Russian!
Trying to distract from the ROT at the heart of America?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:It is a long-established pattern that Russians will murder and then follow that up with endless lies.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Blaming "Russians" for things that happened a century ago is as nuts as blaming "Germans" for the Holocaust or blaming "Americans" for genocide of the indigenes and slavery.
So let's put those responsible on trial: the Tsar, and Lenin, and Trotsky, and Stalin....and while we're at it Hitler, Mao, and Truman, and all former American slave owners.. and Albright, Kissinger, and GWB and Hillary!
What, you say? Only Hillary and Kissinger and GWB are reachable?
Sod off, troll.
We could say the same of Americans. At least Russians kill Russians (you say). We kill EVERYBODY! Since the founding of our nation, in fact. And then we memory-hole it.
That probably explains why so many people in the world hate us. Which we also refuse to recognize.
Troll.
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Quote:Funny how every person I know who now defends Trump was a rotten person years before Trump came along. It is a small sample of Americans, mostly East Texans, admittedly causing a statistical bias, but I think the sample suggests what part of America is rotten. If this was 1865 in East Texas, the people would be former slave owners and ex-Confederates, but I think there were strong statistics to suggest Confederates were rotten people who didn't become better once they lost a war. They were even nastier, more bitter, and less trustworthy in 1865 than in 1860. It is very much the same with Trumptards after Trump lost his election. The Trumptards get even more rotten and bitter as the years pass them by.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh, and implying that anyone I'm Russian is YOUR go-to response when you don't have an on-target response??
Say, don't you care about America? Don't you care about what America does, whether we're doing more harm than good, whether or not we have a solid economic, financial and social foundation? Why the hyperfocus on RUSSIA!RUSSIA? Russian history? Russian power structures? One would think that YOU'RE Russian!
Trying to distract from the ROT at the heart of America?
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Prigozhin May Be Gone, but Not the Failings He Ranted About
The problems identified by Yevgeny V. Prigozhin, the leader of the Wagner mercenary group, did not disappear with him, military analysts say, and are likely to continue to fester, enraging troops and further lowering already sickly morale.
These include an overall lack of command and control, rigid hierarchy, corruption, tangled logistics, equipment shortages and the absence of an honest, public assessment of the war in Ukraine.
The uprising highlighted the gap between the commanders and the soldiers fighting the war, who generally endorse the idea that the army is badly run and headed for defeat.
In some ways, the problems with the war go beyond the people involved and lie within the structure and culture of the Russian military.
Reforms begun more than a decade ago were meant to create a smaller, leaner, more flexible army. It was not built to conquer a large European country, so from that perspective President Vladimir V. Putin assigned the military a task beyond its grasp, said Aleksandr Golts, a Russian military analyst.
“Russia had forces that can win a short, local conflict,” he said. “That’s it.”
But the reformers fell short of achieving greater flexibility, which requires giving decision-making power to commanders in the field. That ran up against deep-seated cultural norms, particularly a penchant for rigid, hierarchical command structure and a callousness about soldiers’ casualties that some say is a legacy of Soviet times.
The Kremlin’s response to the mutiny underscored the weaknesses in the Russian military’s command-and-control structure — its inability to react quickly to unexpected developments, and poor coordination between the military and other security services.
U.S. military officials were stunned that an armored column of Wagner forces advanced within 125 miles of Moscow. The mercenaries met no resistance on the ground, but shot down half a dozen Russian military helicopters and an Il-22 airborne command post that engaged the column.
Pentagon officials said that this reflected once again the lack of coordination between Russian air and ground forces. But the muted reaction might also have been a sign that many officers and soldiers were sympathetic to the mutineers, military analysts said.
More at https://web.archive.org/web/20230630061557/https://www.nytimes.com/202
3/06/29/world/europe/prigozhin-shoigu-gerasimov-surovikin-russia-military.html
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Quote:Who's defending Trump? I'm reacting to your constant pathological lies
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh, and implying that anyone I'm Russian is YOUR go-to response when you don't have an on-target response??
Say, don't you care about America? Don't you care about what America does, whether we're doing more harm than good, whether or not we have a solid economic, financial and social foundation? Why the hyperfocus on RUSSIA!RUSSIA? Russian history? Russian power structures? One would think that YOU'RE Russian!
Trying to distract from the ROT at the heart of America?
SECOND: Funny how every person I know who now defends Trump...
Quote:I've never been a rotten person and CERTAINLY not a lying, sociopathic killer like you.
... was a rotten person years before Trump came along.
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