Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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The Army Tactical Missile System, or ATACMS, has a range of about 190 miles, enough for Ukrainian forces to strike Russian targets far behind the front lines. President Biden hasn’t signed off on the transfer, in part out of concern among U.S. officials that Ukraine could use it to strike Russian territory and escalate the conflict into a wider war.
Officials said that the matter is pending approval at the highest levels and that the deliberations could continue while the U.S. assesses the situation on the ground in Ukraine. Officials in the U.S. and Europe have seen signs, however, that previously reluctant quarters of the U.S. government, namely the White House, have come to see an urgent need to bolster Ukraine’s fight in the coming weeks.
Amid the domestic turmoil in Russia, where over the weekend the founder of the Wagner mercenary force staged an abortive mutiny, U.S. and European officials indicated that now might be the time to provide the more advanced weaponry.
The U.S. had publicly said that it continues to review its assistance to Ukraine based on battlefield dynamics, but officials privately were saying that ATACMS remained off the table as recently as two months ago.
However, with questions over how Ukraine will fare in its recently launched spring offensive, and momentum building after the recent clash between Russia’s military and mercenary forces, U.S. and European officials said the tone in Washington has shifted.
ATACMS rockets, which are fired from the Himars launcher, would enable Ukrainian forces to hit Russian nodes for logistics, command and control well behind front lines. The precision-guided missiles can hit GPS-located targets identified by intelligence with pinpoint accuracy, impeding Russia’s ability to put its rear-echelon operations out of Ukrainian reach.
The long-distance range of the missiles would likely force Russia to withdraw supplies and command posts to more than 200 miles from the front, making it more difficult to supply battle troops.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-close-to-approving-long-range-atacms-
missiles-to-bolster-ukraines-fight-cc4e389c
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Russian forces begin to flee Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant
Some ZNPP employees have also been instructed to leave the plant by 5 July. Meanwhile, intelligence reports that the Russian occupiers have instructed the personnel who remain at the station to "blame Ukraine in the event of any emergency".
Budanov said he was convinced that the Russians’ plan to blow up the ZNPP had been fully prepared and approved, and the threat had never been as great as it is now.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-forces-begin-to-flee-zapo
rizhzhia-nuclear-power-plant-ukrainian-defence-intelligence/ar-AA1df7or
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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For Beijing, last weekend’s mutiny against Vladimir Putin was a cautionary tale.
By Howard W. French
JUNE 30, 2023, 9:54 AM
Throughout most of the ongoing war in Ukraine, a truism has held across most of the American political spectrum, from left to right, about the second-order effects of the conflict’s outcome. A Ukrainian victory would strengthen the position of the United States vis-à-vis China globally, while a Russian victory would achieve the opposite.
It is easy to see how takes like this gain such a strong foothold. Analysts are quick to apply sweeping, abstract constructs to their assessments of major world events. This time, that has meant a supposed worldwide faceoff between authoritarianism and democracy. Beyond such considerations, many have tried to imagine the Ukraine conflict’s effects on Chinese thinking about Taiwan. Here again, it is supposed that a Ukrainian victory against a vastly larger invading adversary would be deflating for China, lowering the risk of any near-term attempt to take control of Taiwan by force. And a Russian victory, which now seems quite unlikely, would produce the opposite effect.
But while we are busy imagining, there is a more interesting puzzle that has so far received surprisingly little attention involving China, Russia, and Ukraine, and that involves the way Beijing views the recent attempt by Wagner Group chief Yevgeny Prigozhin to drive his private army all the way from the Russian southwestern borderlands to Moscow, to either overthrow President Vladimir Putin, kidnap his top defense officials, or lodge a dramatic patriotic protest, depending on whose interpretation one takes of last weekend’s shocking news from the country. Here, “puzzle” is the only appropriate word, not because we don’t know what really motivated Prigozhin or who, if any, his co-conspirators within the Putin system may have been, but because high-level Chinese thinking on global events of the first rank are utterly shrouded in a black box.
What is publicly known is that China’s leader, Xi Jinping, made an unusually strong statement of sympathy toward Russia and Putin early last year, when he spoke of their friendship as having “no limits.” China has been at pains since then to say that this does not mean the two countries have entered into an alliance, and Beijing ever since has been caught in a delicate and even costly balancing act, trying to show support for Moscow in various ways, through public statements and high-level diplomatic exchanges. To avoid incurring high costs in its already troubled relationship with Washington, this has required Beijing to avoid the least appearance of providing lethal weapons to Putin’s flagging army. And to avoid serious damage to relations with Europe, China has had to maintain the pose that it is not so much interested in a Russian victory as it is in some sort of scarcely defined just and peaceful outcome. But European countries that feel threatened by Putin’s recklessness and exasperated by the cost of the conflict seem less and less inclined to believe in China’s good offices.
What, though, do the Chinese themselves think of the latest events out of Russia? If Beijing ever placed any stock in the idea that Russia and China were together defending the virtues of authoritarianism against an unending onslaught of what is fancied as Western liberalism and democracy, any such illusions by now must be cold and six feet under. There is no longer any possible way to understand or interpret Putinism that could make China comfortable with a close ideological pairing or even comparison.
Much has been made of China’s growing authoritarianism under Xi, but it is hard to imagine that Xi looks upon the degraded spectacle of Russia with anything less than quiet contempt. Xi has famously required members of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) to study and derive lessons from the demise of the Soviet Union under Mikhail Gorbachev. His own synoptic assessment of how that erstwhile superpower collapsed is that it lost its nerve, meaning it d
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Originally posted by second:
Russian forces begin to flee Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant
Some ZNPP employees have also been instructed to leave the plant by 5 July. Meanwhile, intelligence reports that the Russian occupiers have instructed the personnel who remain at the station to "blame Ukraine in the event of any emergency".
Budanov said he was convinced that the Russians’ plan to blow up the ZNPP had been fully prepared and approved, and the threat had never been as great as it is now.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-forces-begin-to-flee-zapo
rizhzhia-nuclear-power-plant-ukrainian-defence-intelligence/ar-AA1df7or
Unlike Kiev, which uses civilians as human shields, Russians evacuate areas where they expect to be attacked.
Kherson
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63243313
'18 communities'
https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-evacuates-civilians-from-parts-of-
ukraine-ahead-of-kyiv-counteroffensive-282e6421
nine villages in Belgorod, Russia
https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-war-live-russia-calls-054010236.html
for example, small villages and hamlets in the southeast 'gray zone' where kiev had launched its 'counteroffensive', (and lost so many amored vehicles) ...names none of us would recognize... had already been evacuated by russia.
all this means is that russia expects ukraine to attack the znpp, and ukraine hopes to blow up at least part of it and blame russia:
blow up nordstream, blame russia
blow up the khakova dam, blame russia
blow up znpp... blame russia
that's the pattern, innit?
USA, NATO desperate for a 'win' ahead of the NATO summit in vilnius july 12. YOU may be fooled by western propaganda, but the rest of the world isn't.
BTW, shift keys aren't working, and not gonna go back and correct everything using caps lock.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
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speaking of biden* desperation
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Biden administration could soon approve sending controversial cluster munitions to Ukraine
By Natasha Bertrand, CNN
Updated 3:10 AM EDT, Fri June 30, 2023
https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-war-live-russia-calls-054010236.html
OMFG, seriously? kiev already did this with 'petal' bombs and flechettes ... and blamed russia, of course!
Russia apparently also has cluster munitions in its arsenal but they claim theirs self-defuse in 24 hours instead of lying around unexploded for some civilians to set off, and AFAIK russia hasn't used cluster munitions (so far). they use the much more destructive -but also targeted - thermobaric bomb.
the only reason for biden* to consider using this is bc kiev is getting its ass handed to it, and our collective 'wunder waffe' - javelins, m777, HIMARS, patriot missile defense, leopard tanks, bradleys, etc haven't done much for kiev, and they don't expect fighter jets to do much either.
do you see how we (the collective west) have ramped up our aid to more and more lethal weapons as kiev continues to flounder? THAT is not a sign of 'winning'!
signs of USA/NATO/Kiev desperation would include more attacks on civilian targets, an attack on ZNPP, 'dirty bombs', stinger missiles, and WMD. why don't we go with agent orange and carpet bombing while we're at it?
yep, must be bc we're 'winning'.
/snark
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Quote:There is only one pattern: Russia is poor and belligerent because Russians are stupid and noxious people compared to the EU. This has been the Russian way for centuries, but the Russians take care not to see how their own actions established and maintained the pattern.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
that's the pattern, innit?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Quote:you're a lying sack of shit, SECOND, and anyone who believes you is too stupid to breathe.
Originally posted by second:Quote:There is only one pattern: Russia is poor and belligerent because Russians are stupid and noxious people compared to the EU. This has been the Russian way for centuries, but the Russians cannot see how their own actions established and maintained the pattern.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
that's the pattern, innit?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
troll
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Quote:The Ukrainians will keep fighting Russians because Russians killed 4 million Ukrainians during Holodomor. Russians deny they did what they did and they probably believe their own lies but Ukrainians don't because they were on the receiving end of the Russian mass murder spree inside Ukraine, one of many mass murder sprees Russians have gone on over the centuries. This war is just the most recent murder spree by Russians.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
you're a lying sack of shit, SECOND, and anyone who believes you is too stupid to breathe.
troll
https://www.google.com/search?q=Holodomor
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[some] ukrainians will keep fighting bc the USA keeps telling them to. other ukrainians are fighting on the other side.
But when we (or they) have to use WMD and start targeting masses of civilians, it's clear that we (or they) don't have support of 'the people '.
Btw- Zelenskiy cancelled elections for the foreseeable future. Hooray for democracy!
so ... whatever.
troll.
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Quote:Russians killed 62 million Russians in the last century. That means the Russians are mass murderers. The Ukrainians know all about this, even if you don't, Signym. That is why the Ukrainians fight Russians.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
[some] ukrainians will keep fighting bc the USA keeps telling them to. other ukrainians are fighting on the other side.
But when we (or they) have to use WMD and start targeting masses of civilians, it's clear that we (or they) don't have support of 'the people '.
Btw- Zelenskiy cancelled elections for the foreseeable future. Hooray for democracy!
so ... whatever.
troll.
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