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Monday, June 19, 2023 7:01 PM

For Strongmen like Trump, Holding Office is a Means of Committing Crimes with Impunity

Getting away with crime and becoming untouchable is the essence of authoritarianism

Ruth Ben-Ghiat, Jun 17, 2023

Here is the clip from a great conversation with Jonathan Capehart, which inspired this essay.



“They want to silence me because I will never let them silence you. And I am the only one that can save this nation because you know they’re not coming after me, they’re coming after you. And I just happened to be standing in their way. And I will never be moving.”

And so, another chapter opens of former president Donald Trump's version of the authoritarian playbook. The remarks he made to supporters at his Bedminster, N.J. golf club after his post-indictment arraignment in Miami on June 13 may have seemed spontaneous. Yet they are carefully calibrated. They continue the propaganda points and emotional manipulation that have allowed his leader cult and his bonds with his followers to endure more than two years after leaving office.

Yet Trump is in the middle of the strongman's worst nightmare —an indictment that could lead to a conviction and jail sentence— and his rhetoric has accordingly escalated. Everything he is doing and saying right now has one goal: getting him back into the White House so that he can realize the strongman's dream of committing crimes with impunity and neutralize anyone and anything that can harm him.

The purpose of holding office, for strongmen like Trump, is not governance, but having the power to get away with crime.

More at https://lucid.substack.com/p/for-strongmen-like-trump-holding

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, June 19, 2023 7:18 PM

Heard it before. *yawn*

Why don't we talk about your guy?

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Tuesday, June 20, 2023 4:08 PM

I wonder why Judge found Trump untrustworthy around top-secret documents?
Answer: Because the Judge believes Trump is an Irresponsible Asshole. The Judge knows Trumptards!

Judge orders Trump not to release evidence in classified documents case

Former President Trump and his legal team cannot keep nor publicly disclose any federal evidence in the classified documents case against him, a federal judge in Florida ruled Monday.

Why it matters: Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart's order against the former president and co-defendant Walt Nauta, a Trump aide, which also limits their access to material, is a victory for special counsel Jack Smith, who requested it to prevent sensitive details being revealed during the discovery process when prosecutors present the defense with evidence.

The order warns any violations could result in criminal contempt charges.

Driving the news: "The Discovery materials, along with any information derived therefrom, shall not be disclosed to the public or the news media, or disseminated on any news or social media platform, without prior notice to and consent of the United States or approval of the Court," states the order issued in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida. Full text of order https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1670792703259320321

"Defendants shall only have access to Discovery Materials under the direct supervision of Defense Counsel or a member of Defense Counsel’s staff. Defendants shall not retain copies of Discovery Material."

The big picture: Trump pleaded not guilty in a Miami court last week to all 37 criminal charges related to retaining classified information and obstruction of justice in the federal documents case.

Trump and his allies have repeatedly criticized Smith, who was formerly a chief prosecutor at The Hague, and called the federal indictment a politically motivated "witch hunt."

https://www.axios.com/2023/06/20/trump-classified-documents-evidence-j
udge-order


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, June 20, 2023 8:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I wonder why Judge found Trump untrustworthy around top-secret documents?
Answer: Because the Judge believes Trump is an Irresponsible Asshole. The Judge knows Trumptards!

Judge orders Trump not to release evidence in classified documents case

Former President Trump and his legal team cannot keep nor publicly disclose any federal evidence in the classified documents case against him, a federal judge in Florida ruled Monday.

Why it matters: Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart's order against the former president and co-defendant Walt Nauta, a Trump aide, which also limits their access to material, is a victory for special counsel Jack Smith, who requested it to prevent sensitive details being revealed during the discovery process when prosecutors present the defense with evidence.

The order warns any violations could result in criminal contempt charges.

Driving the news: "The Discovery materials, along with any information derived therefrom, shall not be disclosed to the public or the news media, or disseminated on any news or social media platform, without prior notice to and consent of the United States or approval of the Court," states the order issued in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida. Full text of order https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1670792703259320321

"Defendants shall only have access to Discovery Materials under the direct supervision of Defense Counsel or a member of Defense Counsel’s staff. Defendants shall not retain copies of Discovery Material."

The big picture: Trump pleaded not guilty in a Miami court last week to all 37 criminal charges related to retaining classified information and obstruction of justice in the federal documents case.

Trump and his allies have repeatedly criticized Smith, who was formerly a chief prosecutor at The Hague, and called the federal indictment a politically motivated "witch hunt."

https://www.axios.com/2023/06/20/trump-classified-documents-evidence-j
udge-order


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



In other words...

Democrats: Only WE get to leak classified documents!!!!!



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Wednesday, June 21, 2023 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I wonder why Judge found Trump untrustworthy around top-secret documents?
Answer: Because the Judge believes Trump is an Irresponsible Asshole. The Judge knows Trumptards!

Judge orders Trump not to release evidence in classified documents case

Former President Trump and his legal team cannot keep nor publicly disclose any federal evidence in the classified documents case against him, a federal judge in Florida ruled Monday.

Why it matters: Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart's order against the former president and co-defendant Walt Nauta, a Trump aide, which also limits their access to material, is a victory for special counsel Jack Smith, who requested it to prevent sensitive details being revealed during the discovery process when prosecutors present the defense with evidence.

The order warns any violations could result in criminal contempt charges.

Driving the news: "The Discovery materials, along with any information derived therefrom, shall not be disclosed to the public or the news media, or disseminated on any news or social media platform, without prior notice to and consent of the United States or approval of the Court," states the order issued in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida. Full text of order https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1670792703259320321

"Defendants shall only have access to Discovery Materials under the direct supervision of Defense Counsel or a member of Defense Counsel’s staff. Defendants shall not retain copies of Discovery Material."

The big picture: Trump pleaded not guilty in a Miami court last week to all 37 criminal charges related to retaining classified information and obstruction of justice in the federal documents case.

Trump and his allies have repeatedly criticized Smith, who was formerly a chief prosecutor at The Hague, and called the federal indictment a politically motivated "witch hunt."

https://www.axios.com/2023/06/20/trump-classified-documents-evidence-j
udge-order


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



In other words...

Democrats: Only WE get to leak classified documents!!!!!



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Haven't caught all of your threads. Did you make note that, when raiding Mar-a-Lago, no Trump representative was allowed to whatch what the rogue FBI goons stufed into the boxes that they took, and the defense is still not allowed to see what is in them.

Just like your trusty Vice Cop who slips a bag of coke into your purse, just so they can arrest you or strip search the hot babes. Completely legit, been doing it for decades.

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Wednesday, June 21, 2023 1:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Haven't caught all of your threads. Did you make note that, when raiding Mar-a-Lago, no Trump representative was allowed to whatch what the rogue FBI goons stufed into the boxes that they took, and the defense is still not allowed to see what is in them.

Just like your trusty Vice Cop who slips a bag of coke into your purse, just so they can arrest you or strip search the hot babes. Completely legit, been doing it for decades.

Read the indictment, which includes many Trump statements that he would prosecute people like himself caught with documents.
"full text of the Trump indictment"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/read-full-text-trump-indictment-pdf-copy-
unsealed-documents-case
/

Trump showed the top secrets to anybody who wanted to see them. People did not even have to ask to see the top secrets. Trump lied to the FBI over and over and over about the documents. Then Trump tried and failed to trick the FBI into thinking Trump had returned all the documents. Now Trump is saying that all the documents are still his personal property and he must have them back. He will have the opportunity to make that claim in court. If he loses, and the jury decides Trump is full of baloney, he will go to jail.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, June 21, 2023 8:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Haven't caught all of your threads. Did you make note that, when raiding Mar-a-Lago, no Trump representative was allowed to whatch what the rogue FBI goons stufed into the boxes that they took, and the defense is still not allowed to see what is in them.

Just like your trusty Vice Cop who slips a bag of coke into your purse, just so they can arrest you or strip search the hot babes. Completely legit, been doing it for decades.

Read the indictment, which includes many Trump statements that he would prosecute people like himself caught with documents.
"full text of the Trump indictment"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/read-full-text-trump-indictment-pdf-copy-
unsealed-documents-case
/

Trump showed the top secrets to anybody who wanted to see them. People did not even have to ask to see the top secrets. Trump lied to the FBI over and over and over about the documents. Then Trump tried and failed to trick the FBI into thinking Trump had returned all the documents. Now Trump is saying that all the documents are still his personal property and he must have them back. He will have the opportunity to make that claim in court. If he loses, and the jury decides Trump is full of baloney, he will go to jail.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




Trump's got video of everything.

Looking forward to that coming out when and if he needs it to come out.



Trump will be fine.

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Wednesday, June 21, 2023 5:49 PM

In another least-surprising surprise of our times, last week Donald Trump expressed his intent, if elected to a second term as president, to utilize his Justice Department to destroy his political opponent. The New York Times reported that Trump had promised, in a speech after his arraignment, to “appoint a real special prosecutor to go after the most corrupt president in the history of the United States of America, Joe Biden, and the entire Biden crime family,” and went on to explain the plan to reinvent a DOJ entirely beholden not to the laws of the land, but the president. As the Times noted in its opening paragraph, such a move would “fully jettison the post-Watergate norm of Justice Department independence.”

It’s interesting that we still refer to the proposition that the White House doesn’t direct the DOJ to go after political rivals as a “norm” — much less a norm the White House has observed since Watergate — when in actual fact, only Democratic administrations have adhered to this standard. Long before the Trump era, George W. Bush deployed theories of a “unitary executive” to make claims about a DOJ that answered to him.

Trump’s own use of his Justice Department during his term as president to go after political enemies and reward sycophants is well documented. Whether it was issuing subpoenas for Adam Schiff and Eric Swalwell for investigating Kremlin election meddling, conscripting his attorney general, Bill Barr, to distort the findings of the Mueller investigation, or roping John Durham into investigating the origins of the FBI’s inquiry into Russian election interference, no sane person believes there was a meaningful wall of separation between Trump and his DOJ. And there wasn’t a word of concern from Rep. Kevin McCarthy, Sen. Mitch McConnell, or Rep. Jim Jordan when the Jan. 6 hearings revealed the extent to which Trump had leaned on his Justice Department to support his claim that the 2020 presidential contest had been stolen, including telling acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen to “Just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the Republican congressmen.” It was understood that Trump thought his DOJ worked for Trump.

But do you know who has adhered to the norm that walls off the DOJ from the White House? President Joe Biden. And the attorney general he appointed, Merrick Garland. And special counsel Jack Smith. They have taken elaborate care to keep Trump’s criminal investigation at arm’s length from the White House. This is not an aberration for Democratic administrations.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/06/american-values-and-norms-
have-split.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, June 21, 2023 8:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
In another least-surprising surprise of our times, last week Donald Trump expressed his intent, if elected to a second term as president, to utilize his Justice Department to destroy his political opponent. The New York Times reported that Trump had promised, in a speech after his arraignment, to “appoint a real special prosecutor to go after the most corrupt president in the history of the United States of America, Joe Biden, and the entire Biden crime family,” and went on to explain the plan to reinvent a DOJ entirely beholden not to the laws of the land, but the president. As the Times noted in its opening paragraph, such a move would “fully jettison the post-Watergate norm of Justice Department independence.”



Is this shit written by chatGPT?

You're explaining how the DOJ is being run right now under Democrats.

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Thursday, June 22, 2023 9:52 AM

Ex-FBI analyst who, like Trump, kept classified documents in her bathroom, receives nearly four-year prison sentence

The Kansas City Star reports:

A former FBI intelligence analyst from Dodge City, Kansas, who kept hundreds of classified documents at her home, including in her bathroom, was sentenced to nearly four years in prison by a federal judge in Kansas City on Wednesday for violating the same part of the Espionage Act that former President Donald Trump is accused of breaking.

The sentencing for willful retention of national defense information was the first since a federal grand jury indicted Trump earlier this month, accusing him of hoarding classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida, keeping boxes of documents not only in a storage room but in a ballroom and bathroom as well.

The sentence, handed down by U.S. District Court Judge Stephen R. Bough, offered the first courtroom clue since Trump’s indictment about what the former president can expect if he is found guilty.

“I cannot fathom why you would jeopardize our nation by leaving these types of documents in your bathtub,” Bough said.

Bough, an Obama appointee, ordered the former analyst, Kendra Kingsbury, to spend three years and 10 months in prison followed by three years of supervised release. He ordered her to surrender to federal authorities to begin her prison sentence on July 21.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article276608961.h
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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