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Saturday, June 10, 2023 9:46 PM

A Destructive Trump Indictment
Do prosecutors understand the forces they are unleashing?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-indictment-classified-docume
nts-jack-smith-mar-a-lago-biden-justice-department-81591082?mod=opinion_lead_pos1


You're just making Trump stronger and waking up more of the sleeping public that is now seeing how certain individuals have privileges that everybody else does not.

If it weren't for Double Standards, Democrats would have no standards at all.

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Saturday, June 10, 2023 11:41 PM

A Shameful Editorial

The Wall Street Journal failed a key test.

James Joyner · Saturday, June 10, 2023

James Joyner is Professor and Department Head of Security Studies at Marine Corps University's Command and Staff College. He's a former Army officer and Desert Storm veteran. Views expressed here are his own. Follow James on Twitter @DrJJoyner.

https://www.outsidethebeltway.com/a-shameful-editorial/

That the WSJ editorial page tends toward reflexive fealty to Republican causes is no secret. But the Editorial Board should be ashamed of its latest effort.

"A Destructive Trump Indictment
Do prosecutors understand the forces they are unleashing?"

Already, this is ominous. They’re not only insinuating that violence is likely to occur but blaming the decision to indict a person for serious crimes, not the environment created by the individual under indictment.

"Whether you love or hate Donald Trump, his indictment by President Biden’s Justice Department is a fraught moment for American democracy. For the first time in U.S. history, the prosecutorial power of the federal government has been used against a former President who is also running against the sitting President. This is far graver than the previous indictment by a rogue New York prosecutor, and it will roil the 2024 election and U.S. politics for years to come."

The Justice Department is not Joe Biden’s; it’s ours. We have not, in modern history, had a former President run for re-election after having been defeated. Only one recent President, Richard Nixon, has committed crimes so egregious that they would have been worthy of prosecution—and he would likely have been prosecuted if his successor hadn’t decided, probably rightly, that pardoning him was the best way for the country to move on.

"Special counsel Jack Smith announced the indictment in a brief statement on Friday. But no one should be fooled: This is Attorney General Merrick Garland’s responsibility. Mr. Garland appointed Mr. Smith to provide political cover, but Mr. Garland, who reports to Mr. Biden, has the authority to overrule a special counsel’s recommendation."

It’s certainly the case that Garland could have ordered Smith not to file charges. Presumably, he didn’t because he agrees with Smith that the evidence is very strong that Trump committed sufficiently heinous and blatant crimes that prosecution was warranted.

"Americans will inevitably see this as a Garland-Biden indictment, and they are right to think so."

Now, I’ve made a variation of this argument myself for quite some time. It’s absolutely the case that Trump supporters, and even some independents, will see this as a politically-motivated prosecution. There’s just no way around that, given who Trump is and the fact that the Attorney General is a political appointee.

The appointment of a special counsel is the only mechanism we have to create a veil of independence. As I noted at the time, Smith is almost the perfect choice in that regard but it’s not going to mollify Trumpers.

But it’s one thing to acknowledge the political reality of public perception and quite another to argue that the public is “right” to believe this is some authoritarian political repression by Biden and Garland. Faced with a former President who committed crimes, they have to either uphold the rule of law — their sworn duty — or not.

"The indictment levels 37 charges against Mr. Trump that are related to his handling of classified documents, including at his Mar-a-Lago club, since he left the White House. Thirty-one of the counts are for violating the ancient and seldom-enforced Espionage Act for the “willful retention of national defense information.”

It’s true that the Espionage Act of 1917 is pretty old. It’s also true that it’s been amended multiple times over the years. That it’s “seldom-enforced” is simply untrue, unless we’re using sleight of hand to argue that prosecutions for espionage are relatively uncommon compared to those

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Sunday, June 11, 2023 3:19 AM

Yet another wall of bullshit via SECOND.
Troll.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

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Sunday, June 11, 2023 3:32 AM

yup.

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Sunday, June 11, 2023 5:04 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yet another wall of bullshit via SECOND.
Troll.

A 44-page indictment that carefully explains the laws Trump broke would be too much for you to read but your reading load would be extremely reduced if you search the document for the word conspiracy.

Here is the indictment:
https://www.scribd.com/document/651864905/US-v-Trump-Nauta-23-80101

Trump got into big trouble by lying to the FBI and by moving documents from Mar-a-Lago to Trump National Golf Club Bedminster in order to trick the FBI into believing he no longer had any documents when he actually still did. An actual sentence from the indictment: Trump claimed to the Department of Justice and FBI that he was “an open book.” Trump said this as he was sitting with his lawyers and lying about the boxes, but a security video showed the boxes being moved to Trump's plane on page 26 of the indictment.

When Hollywood makes the movie, there will be a split screen. On the left half of the screen is Trump lying to the FBI ("I am an open book") about the boxes. On the right half of the screen are the boxes being loaded onto Trump's plane.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, June 11, 2023 5:48 AM

Trump Uses Democrat Matt Damon’s Voice in Post-Indictment Video

When I read this I thought it was yet another bit of AI fakery. But no. The Trumptards literally lifted a Matt Damon monologue from the movie Air and used it as narration for a campaign video.

I guess they figure that if you can steal top-secret documents and claim it's legal, then stealing someone's voice-over is small potatoes. The chutzpah here is otherworldly. Trumptards are going nuts these days.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-uses-matt-damon-air-monologue-in-f
undraising-video-on-truth-social


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, June 11, 2023 7:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Trump Uses Democrat Matt Damon’s Voice in Post-Indictment Video

When I read this I thought it was yet another bit of AI fakery. But no. The Trumptards literally lifted a Matt Damon monologue from the movie Air and used it as narration for a campaign video.

I guess they figure that if you can steal top-secret documents and claim it's legal, then stealing someone's voice-over is small potatoes. The chutzpah here is otherworldly. Trumptards are going nuts these days.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-uses-matt-damon-air-monologue-in-f
undraising-video-on-truth-social


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly





http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=65471

Just wow.

Got any pirate links for us today, dickhead?

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Sunday, June 11, 2023 3:38 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Just wow.

Got any pirate links for us today, dickhead?

The “lock her up" crowd is freaking out about "lock him up".
See, pronouns DO matter.

Republicans are called Nazis because they always have a Fuhrer, a Maximum Leader. Once it was Nixon, who could do no wrong because he was their Fuhrer, despite losing Vietnam and Watergate. Then it was Reagan, despite Iran-Contra. The flip side behavior of your basic Nazis in America is that for them Democratic Presidents can do nothing right. Will the Nazis read what a Democrat accomplishes? No, because Democrats can do nothing right in the mind of Nazis. Will the Nazis read the Trump indictment? No need for them to read because Trump can do no wrong:

A 44-page indictment that carefully explains the laws Trump broke would be too much for you to read but your reading load would be extremely reduced if you search the document for the word conspiracy.

Here is the indictment:
https://www.scribd.com/document/651864905/US-v-Trump-Nauta-23-80101

Trump got into big trouble by lying to the FBI and by moving boxes of top-secret documents from Mar-a-Lago to Trump National Golf Club Bedminster in order to trick the FBI into believing he no longer had any documents when he actually still did. A sentence from the indictment: Trump claimed to the Department of Justice and FBI that he was “an open book.” Trump said this as he was sitting with his lawyers and lying about the boxes, but a security video showed the boxes being moved to Trump's plane on page 26 of the indictment.

When Hollywood makes the movie, there will be a split screen. On the left half of the screen is Trump lying to the FBI ("I am an open book") about the boxes. On the right half of the screen are the boxes that Trump is hiding from the FBI being loaded onto Trump's plane.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, June 11, 2023 6:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Just wow.

Got any pirate links for us today, dickhead?

The “lock her up" crowd is freaking out about "lock him up".



Nobody is freaking out. Trump will be fine.

My quote was about you bitching and whining about somebody using somebody else's intellectual property. I found that quite laughable considering it was coming from you.

So where's our unsolicited pirate links for today, dickhead?

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See, pronouns DO matter.


You just hit the only two that do. There are only 2 genders.

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Sunday, June 11, 2023 8:38 PM

Did anyone know that Smiths wife worked for the Obamas?

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