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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Saturday, May 27, 2023 10:42 PM


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So where is the nuclear threat? Something is missing. I know you're evading the question, and if you don't answer it in your next post I'm going to show people why.
Or just go back to your home under the bridge, where you came from.

SECOND: Russia's Medvedev Threatens Ukraine With Pre-Emptive Nuclear Strike. Signym, do you see the word "threat"?

Yes, SECOND, I see the WORD "threat" in the headline, but NOT IN YOUR QUOTE. So, where is MEDVEDEV's threat that you threaten us with?

Still no answer, but a lot of prevarication! Why is THAT, troll?

Select to view spoiler:


The very first para of your link: "Russia will launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike should the West provide Ukraine with nuclear weapons, Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy chairman of Russia's Security Council, warned on Friday." Well, the answer is fucking simple: don't arm Ukraine with nuclear weapons! And the reason WHY SECOND refused to provide a full quote is bc he did what he likess to do: misquote/misinterpret/spin what others say to attempt to manipulate you.

Just as an aside, there is an informal distinction between sociopath and psychopath, altho it doesn't exist in the DSM. Psychopaths show a lot better impulse control and pre-planning. SECOND doesn't qualify as a psychopth bc he can't even keep his lies straight.




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THG
Sunday, May 28, 2023 12:54 AM

Let's give it another two weeks, shall we?

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Sunday, May 28, 2023 8:01 AM

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Originally posted by THG: Let's give it another two weeks, shall we?



What "it" are we giving another two weeks?

Two weeks until Ukraine launches it's offensive?
Two weeks until SECOND answers the question?

Please clarify.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

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Sunday, May 28, 2023 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So where is the nuclear threat? Something is missing. I know you're evading the question, and if you don't answer it in your next post I'm going to show people why.
Or just go back to your home under the bridge, where you came from.

SECOND: Russia's Medvedev Threatens Ukraine With Pre-Emptive Nuclear Strike. Signym, do you see the word "threat"?

Yes, SECOND, I see the WORD "threat" in the headline, but NOT IN YOUR QUOTE. So, where is MEDVEDEV's threat that you threaten us with?

Still no answer, but a lot of prevarication! Why is THAT, troll?

Quote:

The very first para of your link: "Russia will launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike should the West provide Ukraine with nuclear weapons, Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy chairman of Russia's Security Council, warned on Friday." Well, the answer is fucking simple: don't arm Ukraine with nuclear weapons! And the reason WHY SECOND refused to provide a full quote is bc he did what he likess to do: misquote/misinterpret/spin what others say to attempt to manipulate you.

Just as an aside, there is an informal distinction between sociopath and psychopath, altho it doesn't exist in the DSM. Psychopaths show a lot better impulse control and pre-planning. SECOND doesn't qualify as a psychopth bc he can't even keep his lies straight.


Dmitry Medvedev said that Ukraine's weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) are justification for a nuclear war with Ukraine. He is talking about upraising the existing war a couple of notches to full nuclear. Funny things start to happen when politicians talk about nonexistent WMDs. For example, President Bush said that Iraq's WMDs were the justification for war with Iraq. Iraq did not have real WMD's but that did not stop Bush from declaring Iraq did. Medvedev could do what Bush did. Medvedev does NOT need real, physical, actual, tangible WMDs in Ukraine to justify a nuclear war. All Medvedev needs is a Bushy feeling that WMDs are in Ukraine and that is sufficient to nuke Ukraine and all other countries Medvedev feels are providing Ukraine with WMDs.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, May 28, 2023 12:58 PM

SECOND, it's embarrassing watching you squirm.

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Sunday, May 28, 2023 5:32 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, it's embarrassing watching you squirm.

Do you see yourself as a Supreme Court Judge splitting hairs? Allowing Ukraine nuclear weapons, a step no Western state has publicly proposed, would mean "a missile with a nuclear charge coming to them," Medvedev, who served as president from 2008 to 2012, was quoted as saying. https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-744268

This is more of the same empty-mindedness the Russian government has been spouting since its first nukes. If Russians want to kill themselves, it would be better for them to quietly fire bullets into their own heads rather than Medvedev's overly elaborate death-by-cop scenario, where the Russians get another nation to kill Russia.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, May 28, 2023 5:56 PM

Former Russian officer and ardent nationalist Igor Girkin accused Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin of planning a coup against the current Russian leadership. Girkin openly accused Prigozhin of planning to conduct a coup amid the upcoming Ukrainian counteroffensive and of continuously violating Russian censorship laws against the discreditation of the Russian army and military command.[19] Girkin warned of “mutiny” if Prigozhin is “allowed” to lead the Wagner Group. Girkin noted that Prigozhin ordered for the Wagner forces to withdraw to the Wagner bases deep inside of Russia on the eve of the Ukrainian counteroffensive. He also claimed that Wagner personnel had never taken oaths promising not to engage in combat against Russia or its military.[20] Prigozhin stated on May 27 that Wagner will decide later on if it will fight in Ukraine or in another country, which indicates that Prigozhin retains the ability to command his own army outside of the formal Russian military command structure.[21] Girkin also recently criticized the Russian military command for failing to address Prigozhin’s open and vulgar conflict with the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD), even warning that Prigozhin will “devour” the Russian military officials who “bet” in his favor as he seeks to increase his political power.[22] A member of Girkin’s Angry Patriots Club claimed that the conflict between Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu and Prigozhin is developing into a conflict between the Russian military and Wagner forces but that Putin is not paying attention.[23] Girkin’s and his associates’ criticisms are largely consistent with Prigozhin’s continued prioritization of his own personal aims over those of the Russian Ministry of Defense and the broader operational situation near Bakhmut.[24] Prigozhin’s decision to withdraw his forces from Bakhmut and, apparently, from active combat on the eve of the Ukrainian counter-offensive is strategically questionable.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-may-27-2023


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, May 29, 2023 2:11 AM

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Monday, May 29, 2023 2:31 AM


From Simplicius the Thinker, vastly edited for brevity

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Latest Headlines Digest - The West's Tone Drastically Shifts

Sad Reality: The Ukraine War Is Now Going Russia’s Way
by Daniel Davis
Daniel L. Davis is a Senior Fellow for Defense Priorities and a former Lt. Col. in the U.S. Army who deployed into combat zones four times.
... As of November 2022, it was fair to say the Russian general staff had been outperformed by the Ukrainian general staff. Many pundits in the West concluded that Russian troops and leaders were deeply flawed and incapable of improving, believing that Russia would remain incapable tactically for the duration of the war...
Ukraine, on the other hand, chose to contest major cities and has now lost staggering numbers of troops – but they also lost the city itself in the end. The decision of the Ukrainian general staff to defend Bakhmut until the end may have grave implications for the rest of the war.
... I assess there is currently no likely path for Ukraine to achieve a military victory.
https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/05/sad-reality-the-ukraine-war-is-now
-going-russias-way
/

Two Weeks at the Front in Ukraine
Within weeks, the [Ukrainian] battalion faced annihilation: entire platoons had been wiped out in close-contact firefights, and some seventy men had been encircled and massacred. The dwindling survivors, one officer told me, “became useless because they were so tired.” In January, what was left of the battalion retreated from the village and established defensive positions in the tree lines and open farmland a mile to the west. “Wagner kicked our asses,” the officer said.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/05/29/two-weeks-at-the-front-i
n-ukraine


All in all, the article paints a grisly picture of Ukrainian trench life; one sargeant intoned how ‘everyone is sick’, and apparently coming down with even tuberculosis is common. Others contract ‘ravenous bacteria’, including one soldier who had open sores for months and was being ‘eaten alive’ by fleas. And though the author maunders through the heartfelt account in search of some anchoring pensée which could sublimate the horror he witnessed into a message of hope or heroism or …meaning, of any kind for the poor Ukrainians he’s desperate to uplift—he instead finishes on a nihilistic note, drawing the parallel of a cemetery sprawled with countless Ukrainian flags; even under duress, he could find nothing optimistic to buoy the spirits of the AFU



36 Hours in Bakhmut: One Unit’s Desperate Battle to Hold Back the Russians
WSJ archive copy
Russian troops were assaulting one of the apartment blocks that his group of 16 draftees, many of whom had been enlisted days earlier and given no training, had been assigned to defend...O
ver the 36 hours he spent in brutal house-to-house combat in the eastern Ukrainian city, 11 of the 16 men from Malkovskiy’s group of draftees were either killed or captured, according to surviving
https://archive.is/zPFVT

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,
fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd5e6b62-3dce-4902-bcfa-fc38ac2d66cc_648x680.jpeg


Ukraine is losing 10,000 drones a month to Russian electronic-warfare systems that send fake signals and screw with their navigation, researchers say
The RUSI [Royal United Services Instituter, a British military think-tank] report said that along the roughly 750 miles of the conflict's front line, Russia maintained a major electronic-warfare system roughly every 6 miles. These are set back about 4 miles from the front and focused mainly on neutralizing drones, the report said.
https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-losing-10000-drones-month-russ
ia-electronic-warfare-rusi-report-2023-5


Russia Is Adapting Arms and Tactics Ahead of Ukraine Offensive
Bloomberg archive
https://archive.is/IGxwI

Russia's aging, obsolete tanks are actually doing some serious damage in Ukraine, report says
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Monday, May 29, 2023 5:36 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

From Simplicius the Thinker, vastly edited for brevity

https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/latest-headlines-digest-the-wests

There's more...a LOT more... but I didn't want to take the time to condense all of it.

You forgot to include Nuclear Weapons to Anyone Willing to Join Russia

Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, claimed that nations who side with Russia in its war against Ukraine will be given nuclear weapons.

During an interview with Russian propagandist, Pavel Zarubin, filmed on Thursday, but released on Sunday on Ukrainska Pravda, Lukashenko claimed that any nations who joined the "Union State" pact between Russia and Belarus would be provided with nuclear weapons, calling the prospect a "unique chance to unite."

"It's very simple. Countries should join the union of Belarus with Russia, and that's it: there will be nuclear weapons for everyone."

https://www.newsweek.com/putin-ally-offers-nuclear-weapons-anyone-will
ing-join-russia-1803091


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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