Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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So indeed, what next?
NATO airstrikes into Russian-occupied Ukraine?
As far as I can tell, that would suit Russia just fine. All of this escalation by Ukraine and NATO has allowed Russia to demilitarize Kiev and, to a certain extent, NATO. The more money and weapons and volunteers that NATO commits to the fight, the more NATO will be drained.
I'm sure Russian spox will shake their fists and act outraged but I imagine secretly they would be thinking 'Come into my parlor' said the spider to the fly.
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Quote:A Russian state TV guest insisted the country needed at least 4 million more soldiers in order to win its war in Ukraine.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So indeed, what next?
Aleksey Zhuravlyov, chairman of the ultranationalist Rodina party that supports President Vladimir Putin, made the comments during a discussion on the state-approved Russia 1 channel.
He continued: "It is impossible to go with 400-500k people where 3-4 million are needed. You can say whatever you want, but it's true.”
The Russian military is rather inept. It is largely reliant on sheer numbers to try and overwhelm an opponent.
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-state-tv-guest-says-country-needs-4-m
illion-more-soldiers-1801654
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Quote:How about knocking down the Kerch Strait Bridge? How about airstrikes on Russia, not Ukraine?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So indeed, what next?
NATO airstrikes into Russian-occupied Ukraine?
As far as I can tell, that would suit Russia just fine. All of this escalation by Ukraine and NATO has allowed Russia to demilitarize Kiev and, to a certain extent, NATO. The more money and weapons and volunteers that NATO commits to the fight, the more NATO will be drained.
I'm sure Russian spox will shake their fists and act outraged but I imagine secretly they would be thinking 'Come into my parlor' said the spider to the fly.
Like all dictatorships, Russia is more concerned with image over substance. After all, a legitimately powerful military can cause big problems for a dictator. A strong and effective military is a source of potential threats to the regime. If the military, especially its command structure, is efficient and disciplined and well-trained enough to operate as a single cohesive unit, then there's nothing the dictator can do to stop it if it decides to overthrow him.
A powerful military is expensive. All that money spent on tanks and planes and ships and rockets that work is money that the dictator and his cronies can't steal.
However, you don't need to be powerful to keep other countries out of your internal affairs, you just have to appear powerful. Unfortunately for Putin in Ukraine, he fell into a very common trap for dictators: he bought into his own hype.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Bridge
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Russian reactions to the claimed capture of Bakhmut illustrate an increasingly growing divide between the Kremlin’s domestic presentation of the war and the ultranationalist milblogger community’s coverage of Russian operations in Ukraine. Russian state television portrayed the alleged capture of Bakhmut as a seminal historic event and claimed that the city’s capture would facilitate Russian operations to capture Slovyansk (41km northwest of Bakhmut) and Kramatorsk (35km northwest of Bakhmut) and even Dnipro City (roughly 215km west of Bakhmut).[25] The Kremlin likely attempted to oversell the significance of the capture of Bakhmut as a historical victory due to the continued lack of tactical success in Ukraine, with one Russian state media outlet outrageously commenting that Wagner personnel in Bakhmut must feel like “their grandfathers in Berlin.”[26]
Russian ultranationalist milbloggers celebrated the alleged capture of Bakhmut but emphasized that “Bakhmut is not Berlin” and that the capture of the city would be simply another step in ongoing difficult operations to achieve Russian objectives in Ukraine.[27] Russian milbloggers responded to the alleged capture of Bakhmut by discussing more immediate possible Russian operations to capture Khromove (immediately west of Bakhmut), Ivanivske (6km west of Bakhmut), and Chasiv Yar (12km west of Bakhmut).[28] Other prominent Russian milbloggers responded to the capture of Bakhmut by focusing on possible imminent Ukrainian counteroffensive operations instead of possible future Russian offensive operations.[29] Russian milbloggers shifted to more conservative expectations of Russian operations as the attritional offensive to capture Bakhmut continued from winter into spring of 2023, and they have largely abandoned their previous high expectations that the capture of Bakhmut would lead to a collapse of Ukrainian lines in the area and Russian advances up to Slovyansk and Kramatorsk.[30] Russian milbloggers’ more realistic views about both Russian capabilities in Ukraine and the relevance of the Bakhmut offensive highlight the divergence between two very different segments of the pro-war Russian information space: the more optimistic presentation of the war offered by the Kremlin and the more informed presentation of the war offered by milbloggers. These growing differences will likely continue to undermine the Kremlin’s ability to shape the Russian information space.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-may-21-2023
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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
"Institute for the Study of War": The neocon Kagan-Nuland family disinfo project.
A known neocon liar (SECOND) quotes known neocons liars (ISW).
= more shitcan food!
Poor comrade signym. It must be tough being a victim all your life. Not being capable of differentiating fact tellers from liars.
T
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Originally posted by second:
Russian reactions to the claimed capture of Bakhmut illustrate an increasingly growing divide between the Kremlin’s domestic presentation of the war and the ultranationalist milblogger community’s coverage of Russian operations in Ukraine. Russian state television portrayed the alleged capture of Bakhmut as a seminal historic event and claimed that the city’s capture would facilitate Russian operations to capture Slovyansk (41km northwest of Bakhmut) and Kramatorsk (35km northwest of Bakhmut) and even Dnipro City (roughly 215km west of Bakhmut).[25] The Kremlin likely attempted to oversell the significance of the capture of Bakhmut as a historical victory due to the continued lack of tactical success in Ukraine, with one Russian state media outlet outrageously commenting that Wagner personnel in Bakhmut must feel like “their grandfathers in Berlin.”[26]
The only thing Bakhmut was strategically, was for the Ukrainians. It was a location they used to funnel Russian troops into a killing zone. It also keeps Russia from opening fronts elsewhere as they prepare to do just that.
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Not for your sake, SECOND, bc I know you'll never learn, butfor anyone else who may be reading you, I'm going to briefly address your last posts
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A Russian state TV guest insisted the country needed at least 4 million more soldiers in order to win its war in Ukraine.
So, some random guy on Russian TV makes a statement, and bc it's on Russian TV we're supposed to believe it? So far, nothing in Russia's progress in this war indicates that's necessary. Russia took Mariupol with fewer numbers than defenders. Wagner, a PMC defeated the best army in Europe (with Russian artillery and air support) with fewer numbers than defenders. If Russia continues to rely on standoff weapons to attrit Kiev/NATO forces and control the pace of war, then Russia can continue to slowly munch its way thru Ukraine with far fewer losses than Kiev.
Quote:One unfortunate result of this war is that I've learned more about warfare than I ever wanted to. SECOND, of course, has learned nothing. It takes a LOT of explosives to knock down a bridge (like the Nordstream pipelines, it took an estimated 1000 pounds of C4 to blow it open) That is beyond the capacity of any drone and most missiles, which have to give up their internal space to fuel and engine compartments. You're either talking a salvo of VERY large missiles or very large bombs dropped by bombers. Can you say "duck hunting"? Sure you can
How about knocking down the Kerch Strait Bridge?
Quote:How about airstrikes on Ploand, Britain, NATO HQ, etc? With the failure of the Patriot missiles to protect .... themselves... the NATO countries are virtually undefended from air warfare. One hypesonic missile can do a lot of damage.
How about airstrikes on Russia, not Ukraine?
Quote:I'd say this is more true of Kiev and the USA. The Russian MoD has a plan. They dont TELL us what the plan is don't constantly lie about their successes, or blab on and on about their coming offenses or brag how they'regoing to destroy and partition the enemy. When necessay, Russian MoD withdraws from difficult-to-defend positions despite taking a lot of flak and creating talking points for the enemy. They wont be rushed or angered into taking precipitous action. Kiev, NATO, the EU, and USA (and SECOND) are CONSTANTLY blathering nonsense and creating meaningless buzz about how they're winning, or going to win, or how to enemy is so incompetent/criminal etc.
Like all dictatorships, Russia is more concerned with image over substance.
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Quote:How big was the Red Army at its peak? The Soviet Army numbered 12.5 million soldiers. And the enemy was only half of Germany. (The other half of Germany, the western front, was being handled by the US) Today, the enemy is all of Europe, plus the US, plus Canada, if you believe the Russians. So 4 million soldiers to take on NATO does NOT seem like enough. Signym, you don't know anything, you goddamn ding dong. But if Russia, despite its claim to be taking on NATO, is only fighting Ukraine, maybe 500,000 Russian soldiers is enough.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Not for your sake, SECOND, bc I know you'll never learn, butfor anyone else who may be reading you, I'm going to briefly address your last postsQuote:
A Russian state TV guest insisted the country needed at least 4 million more soldiers in order to win its war in Ukraine.
So, some random guy on Russian TV makes a statement, and bc it's on Russian TV we're supposed to believe it? So far, nothing in Russia's progress in this war indicates that's necessary. Russia took Mariupol with fewer numbers than defenders. Wagner, a PMC defeated the best army in Europe (with Russian artillery and air support) with fewer numbers than defenders. If Russia continues to rely on standoff weapons to attrit Kiev/NATO forces and control the pace of war, then Russia can continue to slowly munch its way thru Ukraine with far fewer losses than Kiev.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Bullshit. Once again, you expose your ignorance SECOND. The German army was NOT divided 50/50. The Russian front was roughly 1000 miles. The western front appx 300. 80pct of German casualties were on the Russian front, and it was Russia that advanced into Berlin, not the USA. Your posts are shitcan material.
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Quote:Look at map, Signym. Berlin is on the Eastern edge of Germany, close to Russia. It is kind of like Washington D.C. is on the East Coast. That is THE reason Russia got there before the US.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Bullshit. Once again, you expose your ignorance SECOND. The German army was NOT divided 50/50. The Russian front was roughly 1000 miles. The western front appx 300. 80pct of German casualties were on the Russian front, and it was Russia that advanced into Berlin, not the USA. Your posts are shitcan material.
Germany only attacked Russia because Russia got defeated twice by Finland in the Winter War followed by Continuation War. Hitler correctly saw that Russia was weak. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War
Hitler's Operation Barbarossa turned into a fiasco because Hitler, the silly poseur, sent the German Army and 600,000 horses with carts for moving freight into Russia over the objections of his generals, proving that German fighting spirit could not overcome a shortage of motorized vehicles.
Stalin was an even bigger poseur because, in the midst of all this carnage, he was still killing Russians by the millions. The Eastern Front was fought by idiots at the top making stupid decisions.
Signym, the contradiction is between the story Russians tell themselves in 2023 and the truth about Russians in WWII:
How many died under these wartime conditions in the camps? Tolstoy says that one “former prisoner, who with his comrades conducted a rough-and-ready estimate, reckoned that seven million gulag inmates were slaughtered in the first year of the war.”39 Although Tolstoy believes that this need not be an exaggeration, a more prudent estimate of the total murdered in transit to or in the camps during the whole war period is 8,518,000 Soviet citizens (see appendix 7.1).
What irony, indeed. The democracies fought alongside the Soviet Union to eradicate the horror of fascism from the world. And afterwards, the democracies shook their collective head over the documented mass, inhuman murder of Jews and heaved a sigh of relief and thankfulness that this abominable Nazi system was utterly defeated. Yet, the democracies’ major ally and a victor sitting in judgment with them at the Nuremberg trials was, during that very war, murdering more innocent people just in their labor camps than the Nazis were machine gunning in the gullies and gassing in their concentration camps.
From the book Lethal Politics: Soviet Genocide and Mass Murder since 1917 by R. J. Rummel
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https://www.amazon.com/Lethal-Politics-Soviet-Genocide-Murder-ebook/dp
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