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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Saturday, May 13, 2023 7:40 AM

Nobody cares.

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Saturday, May 13, 2023 5:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.

6ix, Signym and Putin act as if they are non-living computer simulations of long-dead people inside the movie “Discontinued”. Movie Info: Sarah is a millennial with high anxiety and a low opinion of what the future holds for humanity. When a bizarre broadcast reveals that reality is just an elaborate computer simulation that will be shut down in one week, she watches on as madness ensues.
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Saturday, May 13, 2023 5:52 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I think what we're seeing is reality seeping into SECOND's fevered brain. He senses that Ukraine is on the losing side of this war... by extension so is NATO ... and he just can't cope.

The Russians are anxious. They are realizing that all their nukes and all their imagined superiority do not guarantee another WWII victory against Nazis. It is not even guaranteed the Russians will be able to maintain a life style that is, at present, less than half as prosperous as being Canadians. The Russians could sink lower, down to the level of a North Korean looking at how much better life is just across the border in South Korea.

Russian milbloggers and other prominent voices in the pro-war information space continue to respond to recent Ukrainian counterattacks with varying degrees of caution and anxiety. Many milbloggers claimed that Ukrainian activity around Bakhmut marks the official beginning of the anticipated spring counteroffensive and speculated about where Ukraine’s main effort will take place.[9] Several prominent Russian voices, however, urged caution and restraint in responding to the counteroffensive, suggesting that some milbloggers are advocating for the application of certain lessons they took from the information space meltdown during Ukraine’s successful Kharkiv and Kherson counteroffensives. Some milbloggers warned that reports about Ukrainian success could be a deliberate Ukrainian attempt to sow panic.[10] Another milblogger warned against accepting all reports that Ukrainian activities are “psychological operations” at face value and voiced concern about Russian propaganda responses to the counterattacks.[11] One milblogger suggested that credible reports of Ukrainian counterattacks do not mean that “everything is on fire,” cautioning the audience against falling into despair.[12] The milblogger remarked that telling the truth about Ukrainian operations does not amount to ”sowing panic.”[13] The overall Russian information space response appears to be focused on the idea of avoiding spreading panic.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-may-12-2023


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Sunday, May 14, 2023 3:13 PM

Ukrainian forces continue to counterattack in the Bakhmut area amid unconfirmed claims of further marginal Ukrainian gains southwest of the city as of May 13. A Russian milblogger claimed that Ukrainian forces established new positions on the outskirts of Kurdyumivka (14km southwest of Bakhmut) and pushed Russian forces behind the Siversky Donets-Donbas canal in the area.[1] The milblogger also claimed that Ukrainian forces advanced towards Klishchiivka (7km southwest of Bakhmut) from the direction of Predtechyne (16km southwest of Bakhmut). ISW has not observed visual confirmation of these additional Ukrainian gains southwest of Bakhmut or elsewhere in the wider Bakhmut area as of May 13. Ukrainian Eastern Grouping of Forces Commander Colonel General Oleksandr Syrskyi stated on May 13 that Ukrainian forces are advancing in unspecified areas of the front, and the Ukrainian General Staff reported that Ukrainian forces are currently conducting active operations in the Bakhmut area.[2] Ukrainian Eastern Grouping of Forces Spokesperson Colonel Serhiy Cherevaty stated on May 13 that Ukrainian forces liberated 17.3 square kilometers of territory in the Bakhmut direction over three days of counterattacks.[3] ISW has assessed as of May 13 that the Ukrainian forces have liberated 16.85 square kilometers in the Bakhmut area during recent counterattacks. Russian sources amplified footage purporting to show the aftermath of a recent Ukrainian counterattack on Russian positions near Mayorsk (20km southwest of Bakhmut) and claimed that the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR) 3rd Brigade of the 1st Army Corps repelled the assaults.[4] A prominent Russian milblogger claimed that recent successful limited Ukrainian counterattacks north of Khromove (immediately west of Bakhmut) degraded Russian forces’ ability to interdict the O0506 highway between Khromove and Chasiv Yar (13km west of Bakhmut), a significant ground line of communication (GLOC) for Ukrainian forces operating in Bakhmut itself.[5] The milblogger claimed that Russian retreats in response to recent Ukrainian counterattacks have occurred in relatively small areas of the frontline but warned that these “regroupings” could become more significant if Russian forces fail to stabilize the frontline.[6] Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin claimed on May 12 that talks of tactical Russian withdrawals are nonsense as Russian forces continue to outright abandon positions in unspecified locations.[7]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-may-13-2023


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Sunday, May 14, 2023 3:27 PM

The West must cross more red lines in the Ukraine war, says Lithuanian president

Gitanas Nauseda would like to see the Allies send fighter jets and long-range missiles as soon as possible: ‘All the lost time means more broken lives and more destroyed infrastructure’

by Carlos Torralba
Madrid - MAY 12, 2023 - 13:56 EDT

His exquisite manners clash with the forcefulness of his messages. Over the last 15 months, the president of Lithuania, Gitanas Nauseda, 58, has become one of the main allies of the Ukrainian government. Since the beginning of the Russian invasion, he has demanded an ever greater commitment from the West: more and better weapons for Ukraine and the adoption of new sanctions against Russia. The Lithuanian leader urges the members of the EU and NATO to ignore the so-called red lines and to support Kiyv with everything necessary to win the war.

On a recent visit to Madrid as part of a European tour to address the future summit of the Atlantic Alliance, to be held in Lithuania in July, Nauseda spoke to EL PAÍS after meeting with Spain’s Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez and before visiting King Felipe VI.

Question. You have argued in recent months that the West needs to deliver many more weapons to Ukraine. Don’t you think there is any chance of reaching a negotiated solution?

Answer. We all are interested to see peace negotiations, but those peace negotiations should not be performed at the cost of the territorial integrity of Ukraine. Otherwise, it would be difficult to expect that this will be a frank and honest negotiation, and probably Russia will use the opportunity to consolidate resources and to organize the offensive again. Both sides are too far away from each other to find a compromise on many issues. So this is the reason why right now I am not very optimistic about possible chances to sit at the table and to discuss issues which are relevant. In order to have a frank negotiation, it’s very important to see the progress of Ukrainian forces on the battlefield.

Q. What does Ukraine need to achieve these gains on the ground?

A. I think that Western countries are living up to the expectations of the Ukrainians, but unfortunately we are being very slow in making important decisions. It has taken us too long to cross the red lines. At first, there were doubts about the possibility of sending any type of weaponry; then one red line after another was crossed, as with missile launcher systems or tanks.

Q. What red lines need to be crossed now? Modern fighter jets and long-range cruise missiles?

A. Yes, I think those red lines can be crossed now too. And we had better do it as soon as possible, because all the hesitations of the past have been a waste of valuable time. All the lost time means more broken lives and more destroyed infrastructure.

Q. The European Commission is working on a new package of sanctions against Russia. What else can be included?

A. Lithuania has consistently advocated for even tougher sanctions, and we would like to see [state-owned energy company] Rosatom and its board of directors added to the sanctions list. Diamonds and dual-use [civilian and military] technology should also be included, in addition to making a greater effort to prevent Russia from circumventing sanctions.

Q. Do you think China can act as a mediator?

A. China can prove that it can be a global player on the international scene, but only with one precondition. It has to condemn the war in Ukraine and clearly state who is the aggressor and who is the victim. From this moment on, China might be very constructive in solving this conflict and especially providing the forum for peace negotiations.

Q. The next NATO summit will be held in July in Vilnius, the Lithuanian capital. What do you expect from that appointment?

A. We have a very ambitious agenda for the summit. One of the main issues will be to implement all the agreements reached last year in Madrid in relation to the Alliance’s Reinforced Forward Defense operation in the Baltics, which is essential for

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Monday, May 15, 2023 5:37 PM

Russia’s Air Force Has a Very Fiery Day at the Border as It Tries to Bomb Ukraine

Apocalyptic scenes were on display in Russia’s Bryansk region Saturday as four military aircraft were apparently blown out of the sky near the border, killing at least 9 Russian service members.

Officially, authorities blamed the Mi-8 helicopter crash on a mysterious engine fire, but video shared on social media by local residents appeared to show a missile hit the chopper just before it exploded.

Around the same time the chopper crashed, an Su-34 fighter jet also came crashing down from the sky engulfed in flames. Residents in the town of Klintsy could be seen gathering around to gaze in horror at the fiery wreckage of the jet in a nearby wooded area.

Separately, Russian media reported that a different Mi-8 helicopter and an Su-35 jet had also been shot down in the region.

Russia’s Kommersant newspaper reported that all crew members aboard all four aircraft were killed. Russian authorities, meanwhile, remained mum on the simultaneous catastrophes, confirming only the crash of a single chopper.

According to Kommersant, all four aircraft had been tasked with carrying out strikes on Ukraine’s Chernihiv region, with the choppers assigned to back up the fighter jets.

But they were apparently shot down instead. According to Baza, at least 9 Russian service members are dead.

Authorities in the region are now said to be frantically searching for Ukrainian “saboteurs” who shot down the aircraft, though some questioned if Russia may have actually shot down its own planes in its paranoia over Ukraine obtaining new long-range cruise missiles.

Pro-war Russian military bloggers are now demanding revenge over what they described as an “ambush” on Russia’s air force by Ukrainian forces.

“Our aviation has not suffered such losses as today since March of last year,” one pro-Kremlin Telegram channel complained.

“We will avenge everyone, we will kill everyone,” another pro-war channel said.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russias-air-force-has-a-very-fiery-day-a
t-the-border-as-it-tries-to-bomb-ukraine


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Monday, May 15, 2023 7:57 PM

Translation of https://t.me/istories_media/2518

The Kremlin has banned high-ranking officials from resigning during the war. Dissenters threatened with prosecution

Four sources told Important Stories about this: a former FSB officer, a political strategist working with the governor of one of the Russian regions, and two acquaintances of high-ranking officials of the presidential administration (AP).

“I am aware of at least two cases when governors tried to leave their posts, but in the UVP (the internal policy department of the Presidential Administration - Ed.), they were not just banned, but hinted at criminal cases,” says a former FSB officer. An acquaintance of the official from the Presidential Administration also heard about this ban: “There are many who want [to leave] after the start of the war. If everyone leaves, control will be lost.” In the Presidential Administration, the desire to leave the post is regarded as a betrayal, so the task of “demonstrating unity” was set before civil servants.

Previously, several FSB officers complained to "Important Stories" that because of the mobilization announced by Putin, they could not quit. According to a presidential decree, servicemen under contract (the majority of FSB employees also belong to them) cannot quit even after the end of the contract. However, the fact that the ban also applies to civil servants was not previously known.

Interlocutors of Important Stories emphasize that the ban on dismissal is informal and illegal, so there may be exceptions to it - for example, for health reasons or for corruption reasons.

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Monday, May 15, 2023 7:58 PM

Putin’s Reportedly Had to Ban His Top Officials from Quitting as Ukraine War Falters

Two governors were even threatened with talk of criminal cases.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/putin-bans-top-officials-from-quitting-d
uring-ukraine-war


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Monday, May 15, 2023 9:46 PM

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Monday, May 15, 2023 11:40 PM

I heard about the four lost Russian military aricraft, but been too busy to read in detail. A good discussion can be found at Simplicius the Thinker's substack https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/black-day-for-russian-vvs-as-speci
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Scanning his very detailed discussion leads me to believe that this particular grouping (an Mi8 heli specially outfitted as a jammer for incoming anti-aircraft missiles?), an Mi8 heli as a recovery craft, an Su34 fighter-bomber (to launch glide bombs, which has become an important part of Russian warfare) and an Su35 (fighter-interceptor, to cover the Su34) is the standard gouping believed to be able to protect all military aircraft on bombing missions.

This particular mission BTW, launched from and remaining over Russian terrirtory, was to (glide) bomb specific bridges between Ukraine and Russia in order to prevent further border incursions and terrorist attacks on Russian civilians as happened a few months ago. Per Military Summary channel (Dima).

Since rumors are rife, I can't say for certain what happened but, again, according to Simplicius, the aircraft damage is far too extensive to implicate a shoulder-fired anti-aircraft (Stinger) missile, and an attack by a Kiev Su29 is improbable. The guess is that Kiev snuck a heavyduty anti-aircraft missile up to the border and fired from there. If any of this is true, I'm sure the MoD is frantically analyzing the wreckage and whatever other data available trying to figure out how a supposedly invincible grouping was brought down.

Speculation that Z will use this success to once again demand F-16s.

In general I'd say the pace of the war is heating up.

Kiev apparently launched a significant counteroffensive May 12 against both the northern and southern flanks near Bakhmut. According to Prigozhin (Wagner part owner) his fighters are advancing thru Bakhmut and have only a score or so of high rise apartment buildings to take, but had to run to the aide of Russian MoD soldiers who were supposed to be protecting the flanks, with Russian airforces nowhere to be seen. According to the MoD, they repelled the flank attacks using (among other things) aircraft (don't know if ground support helicopters or fighter-bombers or what) . Apparently there is serious bad blood not only between Prighozin and the upper echelon of Russian MoD but has filtered down to individual field commanders, which is a problem.

Meanwhile, Russia has bombed deep inside Ukraine and hit three large targets with bombs that created fireballs reminiscent of nuclear warheads. Apparently also releasing radioactive waste from stored depleted uranium shells (Simplicius https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/nuclear-fallout-russian-strikes-cr
eate
. Complete with videos of resulting mushroom clouds, fireballs, and firenadoes) Russia also brought down two of Ukraine's aircraft (I think an Su29 and a Mig something) when they tried to fire Britain's newly donated air-to-ground long-range Storm Shadow missile

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