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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Tuesday, May 9, 2023 10:40 PM

Ted's war boner is full mast today.

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Tuesday, May 9, 2023 10:44 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
LOL...

Yeah. I'm sure most of Russia's army is dead.

You're an idiot and an asshole, Ted.

The Russians murdered 62 million Russians. Even when it was happening, the Russians pretended that it wasn't happening. The Germans didn't do it. It was Russians killing Russians and none of those murders got mentioned in Putin's speech today, Victory Day!, in Moscow. Putin won't be mentioning anything other than he is crazy and wants to kill as many Europeans and Ukrainians as he can.

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Russians murdered more innocent people just in their labor camps than the Nazis were machine gunning in the gullies and gassing in their concentration camps.
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The lesson is that 62 million Russians can be killed by Russians and the Russians will pretend they have amnesia about all those murders. What? What murders? We know nothing about murders! It was the Germans! It is all the Nazis' fault! We Russians are not to blame for what we did in WWII or Ukraine! It is all Nazis, 24-7!

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, May 9, 2023 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
LOL...

Yeah. I'm sure most of Russia's army is dead.

You're an idiot and an asshole, Ted.

The Russians murdered 62 million Russians.



Why do you pretend to give a fuck?

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Tuesday, May 9, 2023 10:52 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
LOL...

Yeah. I'm sure most of Russia's army is dead.

You're an idiot and an asshole, Ted.

The Russians murdered 62 million Russians.



Why do you pretend to give a fuck?

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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.

Yeah, seeing as he hates Russians with a blind passion, he should be celebrating.

I think what we're seeing is reality seeping into SECOND's fevered brain. He senses that Ukraine is on the losing side of this war... by extension so is NATO ... and he just can't cope.

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Tuesday, May 9, 2023 10:53 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
LOL...

Yeah. I'm sure most of Russia's army is dead.

You're an idiot and an asshole, Ted.

The Russians murdered 62 million Russians.



Why do you pretend to give a fuck?

The point for retarded 6ix is that the Russians are awful people who have repeatedly threatened to drop nukes on the US, which has caused the US to waste more than $10 trillion on nukes in order to convince the awful Russians to NOT proceed with their evil plans.

Between 1940 and 1996, the U.S. spent at least $10.1 trillion in present-day terms on nuclear weapons development.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_of_the_United_States

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 10, 2023 5:08 PM

The Russian Public’s Imperial Hangover

Even as their government prepares them for the shock of Ukraine’s counteroffensive, most Russians continue to endorse Putin’s imperial dream. Why do the overwhelming majority of older Russians not only accept but support their country’s war on Ukraine? The common answer is that they have no choice: the authorities, with backing from the FSB, have systematically identified and punished those who engage in public acts of disloyalty. Under such circumstances, who would dare protest?

Russians are hostage to Putin’s Kremlin. Period.

Those seeking a silver lining are quick to point to the existence of underground opposition groups who have torched factories and public buildings. But which of those many conflagrations were the work of Russians themselves, as opposed to Ukrainian saboteurs? We won’t know this unless and until the Ukrainian army emerges victorious. For now, however, even the existence of a small but active Russian fifth column does not refute the fact that the Russian populace remains passive, even as tens of thousands of their brothers and husbands return from Ukraine in caskets.

But are they merely passive? Even after a year of war, credible Russian opinion researchers and bloggers affirm the presence of millions of what Russians call “hurrah patriots.” These zealots go far beyond the dictates of mere survival to mouth the Kremlin’s slogans. Granted, such zealots tend to be older, but many younger Russians sing in the same key. This brings us back to why so many Russians not only accept but support their country’s war on Ukraine?

Those who study Russia give short shrift to the psychological impact of imperialism on the Russian masses. Topics like centralized planning, the mega-industries that dominate the economy, ideology, and corruption have rightly garnered attention. But largely neglected is the state of mind fostered by imperial rule and its hold over the populace. This may be one the most enduring legacies of Lenin, Stalin, and their successors.

Forty years ago a brilliant writer from Soviet Kyrgyzstan, Chingiz Aitmatov (1928-2008), laid out the impact of authoritarianism on individual psyches in a bone-chilling novel, A Day Lasts More than A Hundred Years. The work blends such unlikely ingredients as the mythic past, Soviet rule, and intergalactic space. Yet its plot is simple. In ancient times an invading warrior tribe takes captive a Central Asian resistance fighter. As they do with all of their captives, the conquering tribesmen subject him to a harrowing process, binding his head in a cap made from the skin of a freshly slaughtered goat. The hat gradually shrinks, causing unbearable pain, which few survived. When the cap is finally removed, the victim has lost all consciousness of himself as a human being, his family, his entire people, and their past. His captors called such transformed beings “Mankurts,” zombies, who have been stripped of their individual and collective memories. The Mankurt is now entirely at his captors’ mercy, a slave without past or future, who meekly does whatever they demand of him.

Surprisingly, the official journal Novyi Mir published this disturbing story in 1980, as Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev’s reign sank into terminal stagnation. A decade later, on the eve of the collapse of the USSR, Aitmatov teamed up with director Hojaguly Nariyew from Turkmenistan to turn the Mankurt story into an acclaimed film. Aitmatov got away with this because his international renown rendered him untouchable. It helped that he had been an officer of the Writers’ Union of the USSR and a member of the Supreme Soviet.

Soon all those who had suffered under Russian rule — Ukrainians, Balts, Tatars, Chechens, and the peoples of Central Asia and the Caucasus — were asking themselves whether they, too, had not been Mankurtized. The collapse of the Communist Party and the USSR itself opened the door to remedial actions. Leaders of the newly independent states understood that the best antidote to Mankurtism was to revive their nat

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Wednesday, May 10, 2023 5:47 PM

Russian President Vladimir Putin declined to use his Victory Day address to make any significant rhetorical changes and reiterated existing narratives, preparing for a protracted war and framing Russia as successfully resisting the entire West. Putin stated in his annual address marking the Soviet victory over Nazi Germany on May 9 that “a real war has been unleashed against Russia” and that Russia has repelled international terrorism and will continue to “defend” residents in Donbas.[1] Putin has previously claimed the West is waging a global “war” against Russia.”[2] Putin has previously referred to the Russian military campaign in Ukraine as a ”war” but this rhetoric, whether an intentional acknowledgement of the scale of the fighting or not, has not corresponded with any changes in the Kremlin’s approach to the “special military operation.”[3] Putin similarly declined to use recent notable events such as his annual New Year’s Eve address or his February 2023 address to the Federal Assembly to offer any concrete vision on how to reverse the Russian military’s setbacks in Ukraine or reframe the war.[4] Putin has instead used these events to reinforce long-standing rhetorical lines aimed at preparing the Russian public for a protracted war in Ukraine by evoking the memory of World War Two without calling on Russian society to support full mobilization.[5]

Putin additionally attempted to use Victory Day celebrations to rally Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) partners, many of which have sought to reduce their reliance on the Kremlin since February 2022. Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan, Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, Kazakh President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev, Kyrgyz President Sadyr Japarov, Tajik President Emomali Rahmon, Turkmen President Serdar Berdimuhamedov, and Uzbek President Shavkat Mirziyoyev joined Putin at the Moscow Victory Day parade in Red Square.[6] Putin emphasized the importance of CIS leaders attending the event and repeated boilerplate Kremlin rhetoric that Russia is pursuing a multi-polar world order.[7] Putin’s latest efforts to rally CIS countries was muted by the reluctance of several Central Asian leaders initially expressed towards attending the Victory Day event, and Lukashenko did not join the rest of the leaders at an earlier wreath laying ceremony.[8] Lukashenko also did not deliver his traditional Victory Day address in Minsk, Belarus, although it is not immediately clear why.[9] Other non-Western states have largely rebuffed the Kremlin’s attempts to coalesce a potential anti-Western coalition, most notably China through its increasing rhetorical distancing from Russia.[10] ISW has previously assessed that the degradation of Russian military power in Ukraine has likely made this Russian effort even less attractive to other states.[11]The Victory Day events showcased far less military equipment than usual (including only a single World War Two–era T-34/85 and no modern tanks, which Russia badly needs in Ukraine) and demonstrated the further degradation of the Russian military, despite the Kremlin’s attempts in previous weeks to downplay Victory Day by downsizing parades and outright canceling events.[12]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-may-9-2023


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 10, 2023 6:45 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
LOL...

Yeah. I'm sure most of Russia's army is dead.

You're an idiot and an asshole, Ted.

The Russians murdered 62 million Russians.



Why do you pretend to give a fuck?

The point for retarded 6ix is that the Russians are awful people who have repeatedly threatened to drop nukes on the US, which has caused the US to waste more than $10 trillion on nukes in order to convince the awful Russians to NOT proceed with their evil plans.

Between 1940 and 1996, the U.S. spent at least $10.1 trillion in present-day terms on nuclear weapons development.



Simply having nukes is threatening the rest of the world with the use of nukes.

There's only one country that ever actually did it. And it wasn't Russia.

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Wednesday, May 10, 2023 7:11 PM

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Russian President Vladimir Putin declined to use his Victory Day address to make any significant rhetorical changes and reiterated existing narratives, preparing for a protracted war and framing Russia as successfully resisting the entire West.

Which is true. All you have to do is read THUGR's and SECOND's rabid dreams of toppling Putin or breaking up Russia, or their denigration of the Russian people and culture, to know they've been recruited in the elites' never-ending quest to destroy Russia

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Putin stated in his annual address marking the Soviet victory over Nazi Germany on May 9 that “a real war has been unleashed against Russia” and that Russia has repelled [USA-sponsored and CIA-enabled] international terrorism
In Chechnya, Syria, Ukraine, and Russia proper

He also equated modern-day western elites with Nazis, which (listening to "Jungle" Josep Borrell and Ursula van der Crazy) I find an entirely apt comparison.

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and will continue to “defend” residents in Donbas.
Who have been subject to continuous shelling of civilian areas since 2014

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Putin has previously claimed the West is waging a global “war” against Russia.”
by expanding NATO to Russia's borders (breaking earlier promises) and placing missiles within a few minutes' flight time of Moscow, fomenting "color revolutions" and invasions along Russia's entire border including Finland, Sweden, Georgia, Chechnya, (The former) Yugoslavia, Ukraine, Poland, Belarus, Kazakhstan etc (pretty much the way the west has treated most of the world)

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Putin has previously referred to the Russian military campaign in Ukraine as /a ”war” but this rhetoric, whether an intentional acknowledgement of the scale of the fighting or not, has not corresponded with any changes in the Kremlin’s approach to the “special military operation.”
Which is a war of attrition. If Russia were to unleash full-scale war against Ukraine, Kiev, Lvov, Kharkov, and Odessa would be no more.

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Putin similarly declined to use recent notable events such as his annual New Year’s Eve address or his February 2023 address to the Federal Assembly to offer any concrete vision on how to reverse the Russian military’s setbacks in Ukraine or reframe the war.
Setbacks? I don't include capturing 20pct of Ukraine's territory as a "setback", or demilitarizing both Ukraine and western arsenals as a failure (for them. For us, yes)

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Putin has instead used these events to reinforce long-standing rhetorical lines aimed at preparing the Russian public for a protracted war in Ukraine by evoking the memory of World War Two without calling on Russian society to support full mobilization.
Bc they don't fight "blitzkreig" wars.

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Putin additionally attempted to use Victory Day celebrations to rally Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) partners, many of which have sought to reduce their reliance on the Kremlin since February 2022. Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan,
undr severe ecnomic pressure form the EU

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Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko,
who is embarking on full military and economic integration with Russia

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Kazakh President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev,
Who remains closely allied with Russia

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Kyrgyz President Sadyr Japarov, Tajik President Emomali Rahmon, Turkmen President Serdar Berdimuhamedov, and Uzbek President Shavkat Mirziyoyev joined Putin at the Moscow Victory Day parade in Red Square.
All Russia's partners

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Putin emphasized the importance of CIS leaders attending the event and repeated boilerplate Kremlin rhetoric that Russia is pursuing a multi-polar world order.
which happens to be true. Russia is not attempting to dominate the globe, like the USA is, but there are plenty of nations attempting to wriggle out from under the USA's oppressive fat ass

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Putin’s latest

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Thursday, May 11, 2023 2:13 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

As far as I can tell Putin spoke plain truth, which will be embraced by all nations not currently under Washington's thumb and all leaders not in Washington's pocket.

Compare life in Russia vs Poland. Putin has done poorly compared to the series of different leaders in Poland since 1999, but Putin tries to compensate for his past inadequacies by invading Ukraine in the present. Putin's Ukrainian plans won't work any better than his more peaceful plans that didn't involve an invasion of a European country. Russia's future, where Polish citizens pull even further ahead of Russians will prove how inadequate Putin was as a leader.

https://www.google.com/search?q=compare+gdp+russia+poland

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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