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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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THG
Tuesday, May 9, 2023 3:37 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THUGR, why do you say that I describe Russias war of attrition "with bitterness"? Your mind-reading sucks. (As usual) What I feel most often is IRRITATION bc I have to keep repeating myself so often, especially to retards who keep jibing that Russia isn't advancing like they think it should. A war of attrition results in a static front when the enemy (in this case, Kiev) obliges you by constantly throwing itself against your defenses; or results in tacticsl retreat.

But why in god's name do you think that it's the RUSSIAN army getting ground down? Were Russia's air defenses destroyed? Have Russia's air force been obliterated? Is Russia's tank force, artillery, munitions and weapons factories, rail system, and fuel depots been destroyed? Most importantly, has Russia lost a while army's -worth of men?

You need to get your news from someplace that doesn't just embellish what "Kiev says".

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For the First Time, a Patriot Missile Has Killed One of Russia’s Hypersonic Missiles
Multiple sources identified the nose cone as likely coming from a Kinzhal missile, which officially goes by the unwieldy designation 9-S-7760, and is codenamed the ‘Killjoy’ by NATO.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/for-the-first-time-a-patriot-miss
ile-has-killed-one-of-russia-s-hypersonic-missiles/ar-AA1aTAXj?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=a7b9022cd5e743e18c2a16ca8ded5a0c&ei=21






THUGR:: Oops, sorry comrade Signym.


Denied by Kiev itself.
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Ukrainian Air Force denies reports Kinzhal hypersonic ballistic missile downed over Kyiv


https://news.yahoo.com/ukrainian-air-force-denies-reports-132000149.ht
ml


YEP, SO SORRY COMRADE! So sorry that your sources are so tainted and your gullibility is so huge!




U.S. confirms Kinzhal hypersonic ballistic missile to have been destroyed by Patriot system

https://mil.in.ua/en/news/u-s-confirms-kinzhal-hypersonic-ballistic-mi
ssile-to-have-been-destroyed-by-patriot-system
/



Thanks TWO...Oops comrade signym, oops.

T

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Tuesday, May 9, 2023 4:53 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Why would Kiev deny shooting down a hypersonic missile?
This is how it works, SECOND: Russia doesn't report all its losses, but when they DO report them, they seem to be accurate. (For example, the Russian MoD's KIA report tallies with the BBC's independent estimate.) When the Russian MoD claims territory, or #of Kiev weapons destroyed, it winds up looking accurate.

But Kiev lies about EVERYTHING: territory gained or lost, Ukrainian losses, Russian losses, weapons available... I shitcan everything "Kiev says", just like I shitcan everything you post.

Because for them, and for you, there are no "facts", only words as weapons. You, and they, will say anything... anything ... to advance your "war" (whatever it is).

Signym points to a story from Fri, May 5, 2023 at 8:20 AM CDT by Yahoo!
https://news.yahoo.com/ukrainian-air-force-denies-reports-132000149.ht
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Alternative story from today: Ukraine said Saturday that it shot down one of Russia’s hypersonic missiles using an American-made defense system.

Ukrainian military commander Mykola Oleshchuk said his forces downed the Russian missile over Kiev the night of May 4. He said they used the American Patriot missile defense system. He said a Russian aircraft had launched the hypersonic missile from Russian airspace into Ukraine.

https://learningenglish.voanews.com/a/ukraine-claims-it-shot-down-hi-t
ech-russian-missile-with-us-system/7083766.html


What happened? Who knows? But if Ukraine doesn't shoot down a second Russian hypersonic missile, then the first shootdown was either a lucky fluke or it didn't happen or Russia realized that firing billions of dollars in missiles is a waste of money unless there is a nuke in the nose cone. Cost of one Iskander missile is US$3 million. It means that the Russians have already spent US$2.328 billion on missiles of this type, as they were launched on the territory of Ukraine. A Kalibr missile costs US$6.5 million; that is, the total cost of the launched projectiles has already reached US$1.482 billion. A Kh-101 missile costs US$13 million, and a Kh-555 missile, according to open source data, costs US$7.5 million. https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/10/14/7372027/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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THG
Tuesday, May 9, 2023 5:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THUGR, why do you say that I describe Russias war of attrition "with bitterness"? Your mind-reading sucks. (As usual) What I feel most often is IRRITATION bc I have to keep repeating myself so often, especially to retards who keep jibing that Russia isn't advancing like they think it should. A war of attrition results in a static front when the enemy (in this case, Kiev) obliges you by constantly throwing itself against your defenses; or results in tacticsl retreat.

But why in god's name do you think that it's the RUSSIAN army getting ground down? Were Russia's air defenses destroyed? Have Russia's air force been obliterated? Is Russia's tank force, artillery, munitions and weapons factories, rail system, and fuel depots been destroyed? Most importantly, has Russia lost a while army's -worth of men?

You need to get your news from someplace that doesn't just embellish what "Kiev says".




Putin Forced to Send 70-year-old Tanks From Russian Museums Into Ukraine Due to Ongoing Weapons Shortage

Vladimir Putin was recently forced to send 70-year-old tanks previously kept on display inside Russian museums into Ukraine to make up for his military’s ongoing weapons shortage, RadarOnline.com has learned.

In a surprising development to come after Russia is estimated to have lost more than 3,700 tanks in the past 14 months of fighting against Ukraine, the 70-year-old Russian leader reportedly ordered several Soviet-era T-55 tanks to be recommissioned and sent to the frontlines of battle.

According to Daily Star, the T-55 tanks being taken from Russian museums and sent into Ukraine were first constructed in 1948 shortly after the end of World War II.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-forced-to-send-70-year-old-
tanks-from-russian-museums-into-ukraine-due-to-ongoing-weapons-shortage/ar-AA1aUOx8?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=165295698a1a4237a77eb37c37c60fbd&ei=154




The truth is out there for all to see comrade. Your lying doesn't change that.

T

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Tuesday, May 9, 2023 5:15 AM

For the First Time, a Patriot Missile Has Killed One of Russia’s Hypersonic Missiles

That may burst the hype bubble around the mighty Kinzhal.

Initially, though, the ID was contested. There was the possibility the downed weapon was instead a land-based Iskander tactical ballistic missile (also a hypersonic weapon, though less often hyped as such) upon which the Kinzhal is based.

Ukraine Weapon Tracker, a respected account known to ID weapons usage, noted:

“The debris matches the unitary warhead assembly used in Kh-47M2 & Iskander-series missiles. Further imagery is required to fully confirm the type of the missile - but both Iskander and Kinzhal are ballistic missiles which are regarded as extremely difficult to intercept; except by modern Western Air Defense systems that are entering service in Ukraine…We are confident in our ID.”

Ukrainian Air Force spokesperson Yuriy Ihnat cast doubt that a Kinzhal was downed, with statement claiming: “There was a possibility of [Kinzhal’s] use, but no ballistic missiles were recorded.”

But then on Saturday, Ukrainian Air Force commander Mykola Oleshchuk finally confirmed on a Telegram post the "historic event": one of the UAF's new Patriot missiles had indeed downed the "unparalleled" Kinzhal. He noted the Kinzhal had been launched from over Russian airspace by a MiG-31K fighter, and admonished the media for reporting the incident in advance of his confirmation.

Some sources allege Ukraine’s military initially cast doubt on the kill because it didn't want Russia to know it could down Kinzhal missiles or that a Patriot battery was active in Kyiv, and was frustrated when the news leaked.

More at https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a43806773/patriot-mi
ssile-kills-russia-hypersonic-kinzhal-missile
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, May 9, 2023 5:47 PM

Graphic novel 'Accidental Czar' explores Putin's motivations

Clip: 11/25/2022 | 7m 42s

https://www.pbs.org/video/accidental-czar-1669413748/

As the U.S. and other nations try to end the Russian war in Ukraine, there has been a renewed focus on Russian President Putin. Who is he, where did he come from and what does he want? Andrew Weiss tries to answer those questions in his new graphic novel with art by Brian Box Brown called, "Accidental Czar: The Life and Lies of Vladimir Putin." Weiss joined Nick Schifrin to share his perspective.



Andrew S. Weiss — Accidental Czar: The Life and Lies of Vladimir Putin - with Marie Yovanovitch, Former United States Ambassador to Ukraine



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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THG
Tuesday, May 9, 2023 6:18 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

THUGR, why do you say that I describe Russias war of attrition "with bitterness"? Your mind-reading sucks. (As usual) What I feel most often is IRRITATION bc I have to keep repeating myself so often, especially to retards who keep jibing that Russia isn't advancing like they think it should. A war of attrition results in a static front when the enemy (in this case, Kiev) obliges you by constantly throwing itself against your defenses; or results in tacticsl retreat.

But why in god's name do you think that it's the RUSSIAN army getting ground down? Were Russia's air defenses destroyed? Have Russia's air force been obliterated? Is Russia's tank force, artillery, munitions and weapons factories, rail system, and fuel depots been destroyed? Most importantly, has Russia lost a while army's -worth of men?

You need to get your news from someplace that doesn't just embellish what "Kiev says".




Putin Forced to Send 70-year-old Tanks From Russian Museums Into Ukraine Due to Ongoing Weapons Shortage

Vladimir Putin was recently forced to send 70-year-old tanks previously kept on display inside Russian museums into Ukraine to make up for his military’s ongoing weapons shortage, RadarOnline.com has learned.

In a surprising development to come after Russia is estimated to have lost more than 3,700 tanks in the past 14 months of fighting against Ukraine, the 70-year-old Russian leader reportedly ordered several Soviet-era T-55 tanks to be recommissioned and sent to the frontlines of battle.

According to Daily Star, the T-55 tanks being taken from Russian museums and sent into Ukraine were first constructed in 1948 shortly after the end of World War II.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-forced-to-send-70-year-old-
tanks-from-russian-museums-into-ukraine-due-to-ongoing-weapons-shortage/ar-AA1aUOx8?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=165295698a1a4237a77eb37c37c60fbd&ei=154




The truth is out there for all to see comrade. Your lying doesn't change that.

T




Putin's Ally Slams Russia Over Broken Promises On Ammunition For 'Starving' Mercenaries In Ukraine

Vladimir Putin’s ally and the chief of the Wagner Group slammed Moscow after he said his mercenaries had not yet received the ammunition Russia had promised.

What Happened: Hours after saying they had started receiving the ammunition based on initial data, Yevgeny Prigozhin took a sharp U-turn slamming Putin's administration for not sending the promised ammunition, reported Reuters.

Wagner Group, whose private mercenaries have spent months trying to capture Ukraine's Bakhmut, earlier this month threatened to pull out after being starved of ammunition and suffering “useless and unjustified” losses as a result.

Prigozhin said he did not want to “spoil” Russia’s big Victory Day parade and would reveal more details afterward. “The people who were supposed to fulfill the (shipment) orders have so far, over the past day, not fulfilled them,” Prigozhin said in a video post on Telegram.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-ally-slams-russia-over-br
oken-promises-on-ammunition-for-starving-mercenaries-in-ukraine/ar-AA1aVLcJ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=9e64a6e31398476ea5990053973cbe14&ei=38




So, comrade signym, you were saying?

T

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THG
Tuesday, May 9, 2023 8:31 PM

Can't have big parade if most of your army is dead. Hey, don't take my word for it, just look at Putins' face.

Comrade signym, can_you_see_me_laughing?

T






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Tuesday, May 9, 2023 8:45 PM

LOL...

Yeah. I'm sure most of Russia's army is dead.

You're an idiot and an asshole, Ted.

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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.

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THG
Tuesday, May 9, 2023 9:20 PM

Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin says Russian troops are running away from the front lines and threatens to spill more details if Putin doesn't send ammunition

The boss of the Wagner Group said Russian troops fled from the front lines of the war in Ukraine.

Wagner Group leader Yevgeny Prigozhin made the claims in a scathing video posted on Tuesday.

"They all fled and opened up a front almost two kilometers wide and 500 meters deep," he said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/wagner-boss-yevgeny-prigozhin-say
s-russian-troops-are-running-away-from-the-front-lines-and-threatens-to-spill-more-details-if-putin-doesn-t-send-ammunition/ar-AA1aWX72?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=fcc5428c771e443793511acda3707df8&ei=59




Comrades, I told you so.

T



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THG
Tuesday, May 9, 2023 10:03 PM

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Why Moscow's military parade was branded 'underwhelming'





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