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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Tuesday, April 18, 2023 6:41 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Uh huh.

Meanwhile... Have you bothered looking around you and seeing what's happened to our country in the last 2 years?


Name one good thing that doesn't include the word Trump in it.

It is like talking about the Civil War but not mentioning that the Confederates were crazed madmen on a killing rampage to protect their slave property. The problem with America is Trumptards, but they were a huge problem before Trump became a politician just as Russians were a huge problem, threatening to nuke the world, long before Putin was out of diapers. The US spent over $10 trillion (not billion, not million) on nuclear weapons because the Russians continuously threatened to nuke the US. Similarly, the kind of Americans who would vote for Trump have been a huge pain-in-the-ass for America since I was a baby in 1952. The pain-in-the-asses think they are the heart of America, but they are just the asses and don't know it.

https://www.brookings.edu/the-hidden-costs-of-our-nuclear-arsenal-over
view-of-project-findings
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, April 18, 2023 7:43 AM

The problem with America is Biden* and the globalists and neocons.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

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Tuesday, April 18, 2023 9:52 AM

Notice how when given an opportunity, Second cannot come up with a single positive thing that has happened since Biden* was President.

Can't blame him. Because the answer is nothing.

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Tuesday, April 18, 2023 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Notice how when given an opportunity, Second cannot come up with a single positive thing that has happened since Biden* was President.

Can't blame him. Because the answer is nothing.

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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.

Yanno, come to think of it, I can't think of a single positive thing Biden* has done for us.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

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Tuesday, April 18, 2023 4:41 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The problem with America is Biden* and the globalists and neocons.

There is even infighting in Russia:

Former Russian officer and ardent nationalist Igor Girkin’s newly formed “Club of Angry Patriots” published its manifesto focused on protecting pro-war factions in the Kremlin from possible “sabotage” and “betrayal.” The “Club of Angry Patriots” published its manifesto on April 17 on its newly created Telegram channel, which emphasizes protecting pro-war factions in the Kremlin instead of efforts to win the war in Ukraine.[25] The manifesto claims that unspecified actors who remain in power in Russia have transferred their money and allegiance to the West and may be preparing for a coup and the ”dismemberment” of the Russia Federation. The manifesto likens the Kremlin‘s pro-war and anti-war factions to the fight between the Reds and Whites in the Russian Civil War following the Bolshevik revolution of 1917. The manifesto also claims that Russia is currently fighting the war in a mediocre way and is unable to defeat Ukraine in its current state. ISW previously assessed that Girkin and the “Club of Angry Patriots” may be attempting to advance the political goals of unnamed figures in Russian power structures who want to influence Putin’s decision making through public discourse.[26]

More at https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-april-17-2023


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, April 18, 2023 5:07 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Notice how when given an opportunity, Second cannot come up with a single positive thing that has happened since Biden* was President.

Can't blame him. Because the answer is nothing.

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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.

Yanno, come to think of it, I can't think of a single positive thing Biden* has done for us.

Let's compare Presidents. I could do a comparison of Jefferson Davis to Lincoln, which one is more sane, but a comparison of Trump to Biden or Putin to Biden is more relevant.

On the one hand, Trump claimed he could end the war in Ukraine within 24 hours. He didn't explain how because he is a lunatic. Signym and 6ix keep writing "Fuck Ukraine" because they literally, not figuratively, live like lunatics (I read everything you two lunatics write). On the other hand, Biden went to Ukraine and sent them ammo to kill Russians (a nation that has threatened to nuke the US every day since the first day it got a nuke), which always gets Putin to swear he will nuke the US if Biden sends more ammo because Putin is also a lunatic. Russia's threats have cost the US at least $10 trillion for nuclear weapons to deter Russia from doing what it continuously threatens to do.

The thing is, Signym and 6ix, that there is a difference in real world results between being an lunatic (Trump, Putin, every Trumptard I know is howling at the moon, Russians who support Putin in nuking the US and conquering Ukraine) and being sane (Biden). Trumptards could discover what Democrats have done by googling what are Biden legislation achievements or judges confirmed. But that cannot be as fun as ranting and raging like lunatics, the main thing Trump or Putin do.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, April 18, 2023 7:30 PM

An interview with two former Wagner Group fighters on their treatment of Ukrainian children and other civilians and prisoners of war (POWs) further highlights how Wagner has institutionalized systematic brutality as part of its fundamental modus operandi. Russian human rights organization Gulagu.net released a video interview on April 17 with two former convicts who finished their contracts with Wagner and returned to Russia.[12] One Wagner fighter, Azamat Yaldarov, admitted that Prigozhin ordered his unit to kill children while taking control of Soledar, and that he buried 18 children that he killed in Krasnodar Krai and Saratov and Kirov oblasts.[13] Yaldarov emphasized that Prigozhin gave the order for Wagner fighters to ”eliminate” everyone in Soledar, and that Yaldarov was specifically ordered to kill children. Another Wagner fighter and commander of a reconnaissance unit, Aleksey Savich, told the interviewer that he fired on his own men for disobedience and that he personally witnessed the executions of 80 Wagner fighters for refusing to follow orders. Savich claimed that Wagner command gave the order to kill all civilians in Bakhmut aged 15 and older, and that his unit killed 23 civilians, 10 of whom were unarmed teenagers. Savich recounted other instances from operations in Bakhmut and Soledar in which he murdered children as young as five years old and other civilians. Savich also claimed that Prigozhin has a personal preference for recording videos of the execution of Ukrainian prisoners of war.

The extremely graphic atrocities described by Yaldarov and Savich underscore a slate of recent reports of Wagner’s systematic use of brutality as a method of waging war.[14] Prigozhin and Wagner’s command may actively encourage active engagement in atrocities in an attempt to build social cohesion and reputation within Wagner units. This type of engrained violence is likely to have escalating domestic impacts on Russian domestic society, especially as Wagner fighters complete their contracts and return to their homes. Russian society will have to increasingly work to handle the normalized brutality committed by its forces as they reintegrate into the domestic sphere, which will likely have generational domestic societal ramifications.

The Gulagu.net interview with the two former Wagner fighters provides valuable insight into Wagner’s force structure and operational prioritization. Yaldarov claimed that he was the commander of Wagner’s 5th Assault Detachment and that he trained with a special unit that specifically taught him to kill.[15] Yaldarov stated that the higher Wagner command gave his unit the order to place a flag on likely the Bakhmut administrative building and that he was not allowed to leave Bakhmut until after its capture. Considering the fact that Yaldarov gave the interview from his home in Russia because he was released from his contract, his anecdote about the administrative building may suggest that Wagner considered the capture of the administrative building and the central Bakhmut area to be threshold for announcing the capture of the city. The apparent return of Putin’s favor to Prigozhin may have resulted in part from Prigozhin’s ability to claim the capture of Bakhmut — his objective — while the Russian MoD’s conventional forces failed to achieve any of their objectives. Yaldarov’s account of Prigozhin’s orders for Wagner troops to massacre civilians and everyone they came across in Soledar in early January additionally indicates that Prigozhin pushed for the quick capture of the settlement and ordered his fighters to take it essentially at any cost. Both Yaldarov and Savich emphasize the way that the Wagner command demands brutal treatment of Wagner dissenters within the ranks and the operational reliance on attritional assaults carried out by convict recruits.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-april-17-2023


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa40

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Tuesday, April 18, 2023 7:37 PM

Notice how Second still hasn't said one good thing that has happened since Biden* was sworn in as President.



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Tuesday, April 18, 2023 8:40 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Notice how Second still hasn't said one good thing that has happened since Biden* was sworn in as President.

The Democrats passed a budget and appointed judges, but the most important thing is that Biden stopped Putin from conquering Europe. Somebody needed to thrash the Russians ever since 1945 (anybody remembers Russia's Iron Curtain?) and nobody would do it until Ukraine did, mostly because Putin was murdering Ukrainians and erasing Ukraine from the maps. Putin would have already succeeded if Biden hadn't sent ammo to Ukraine. The cheese-eating surrender monkeys of the EU and the GOP, Trump in particular, would have allowed Putin to take over Europe by now.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, April 18, 2023 8:44 PM

Nope.

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