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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Saturday, April 15, 2023 12:20 AM


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But, yanno, it doesn't matter. Your own deranged posts and thoughts won't change reality. The USA will either get its shit together and start paying attention to its common interests (and not nutjobs and indentitarians like you) or it won't. And if it doesn't, we'll go down in flames.

SECOND: Russian President Vladimir Putin reportedly



By who?
On what grounds?
Does anyone really think that anyone in the west has an ear on what goes on in the FSB or Security Council?
Ha!

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BTW, if you had two neurons to rub together, you would have noticed that words and phrases like - allegedly, reportedly, according to anonymous sources etc - are just the media's way of distancing themselves from what they're publishing. They are publishing it as unverified. It's as meaningful as "some say..."

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

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Saturday, April 15, 2023 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But, yanno, it doesn't matter. Your own deranged posts and thoughts won't change reality. The USA will either get its shit together and start paying attention to its common interests (and not nutjobs and indentitarians like you) or it won't. And if it doesn't, we'll go down in flames.



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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

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Saturday, April 15, 2023 1:12 AM

We should just stop engaging entirely with the half-wit troll.

I'm going to continue to respond to his posts that aren't directed to anyone here and call him a retard for believing them and/or just ripping them off outright, but we should probably just stop rewarding his bad behavior by doing a complete ignore when he speaks to anyone directly.

It's not as if there's any intellectual conversation we'd be missing out on.

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Saturday, April 15, 2023 2:02 AM

Well, yeah. But other ppl besides SECOND read this forum. I hate to see the nonsense that he posts plagiarizes stand unopposed.

Hard to believe they're from mainstream publications. Just goes to show the psyops that we're buried in every day.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

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Saturday, April 15, 2023 3:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, yeah. But other ppl besides SECOND read this forum. I hate to see the nonsense that he posts plagiarizes stand unopposed.

Hard to believe they're from mainstream publications. Just goes to show the psyops that we're buried in every day.

Signym, I know how you, personally, can spin this next story where Russians killed Ukrainian prisoners but you could do your special little interpretation and reverse everything, misunderstand everything, by making the Russians into victims and the Ukrainians, no longer the victims, but make them into villains. I know you can do it, Signym! Start by calling Jews the real Nazis and go with it, Signym.

Russia’s reaction to videos that seem to show its forces beheading Ukrainian soldiers hints at recognition of humanitarian law.

Russia and Ukraine rarely agree on much these days. Yet this week, after the release of two videos on social media that appeared to show Russian forces had beheaded three captured Ukrainian soldiers, the two countries seemed to find common moral ground. Each launched an investigation of the videos.

The Kremlin said they were “awful.” Russia’s Prosecutor General’s Office promised to verify their authenticity and then “make an appropriate decision.” Ukraine called on the International Criminal Court to investigate and opened its own war crimes probe.

The gruesome nature of decapitation – a brutality associated more with terrorist groups – may account for Russia’s apparent concern. The videos could push Russian opinion against the war and further unite the Ukrainian people. Such reactions would reaffirm the modern legal norms that wars must have humanitarian limits and that combatants in a conflict must protect civilians, the wounded, and prisoners of war.

Both Ukraine and Russia are among nearly 200 countries that are party to the Third Geneva Convention, the international law that dictates rules on the treatment of POWs. Yet Russia has largely ignored many of the Geneva Conventions since the invasion, especially in bombing civilian targets, executing civilians in captured towns, and taking Ukrainian children to Russia. Ukraine has committed similar atrocities but not nearly as many. And more importantly, it is investigating them.

Shocking violence can sometimes change the course of a conflict. The My Lai massacre of Vietnamese civilians by U.S. soldiers in 1968 shifted American opinion of the Vietnam War. In 2005, Al Qaeda told its branch in Iraq to stop its frequent beheadings. Videos of those acts were losing “Muslim hearts and minds,” said a leader of Al Qaeda. Many Islamic scholars also weighed in against such violence.

Beheadings during a war may be aimed at instilling fear, but they can also create a response that helps limit the war by affirming moral guardrails. That response is based on the presumed innocence and dignity of civilians or captured soldiers.

If the Kremlin does now seek to adhere to the rules of war, it would be a recognition that Russia must still exist within a moral community, one based on humanitarian law with the idea that what unites people is far stronger than what divides them. War needs limits because of the infinite good within humanity.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230414212256/https://www.csmonitor.com/C
ommentary/the-monitors-view/2023/0414/The-worst-of-war-violence-versus-the-best-of-humanity


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, April 15, 2023 4:16 AM

The man who fled to Belarus after coming to Russian authorities’ attention because his daughter drew an anti-war picture at school, has been extradited back to Russia, according to a media report.

Belarusian authorities handed over Alexei Moskalyov, who was detained in Minsk late last month, to Russia, a spokesperson for the Belarus interior ministry told state newswire RIA Novosti.

In late March, a court in the town of Yefremov sentenced Moskalyov to two years in a penal colony for discrediting the Russian army on social media, but he was not present for sentencing, having gone on the run. Moskalyov was detained two days later in Belarus by the local authorities.

Belarus under dictator Alexander Lukashenko has closely aligned itself with Russia after it launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. Russian troops entered Ukraine from Belarus at the beginning of the war; a year later, in late March this year, Lukashenko allowed Russia to station nuclear weapons on Belarusian soil.

Although the Yefremov court convicted Moskalyov over social media posts calling Russian soldiers “rapists” and the country’s leaders “terrorists,” his defense team and rights activists argue he was actually punished for an anti-war picture drawn by his 13-year-old daughter in April last year.

The girl was later placed in state care and denied communications with the outside world. The case has been likened to the Stalinist practice of targeting the children of “enemies of the state.”


https://www.politico.eu/article/anti-war-protest-alexei-moskalyov-extr
adited-russia
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, April 15, 2023 5:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, yeah. But other ppl besides SECOND read this forum. I hate to see the nonsense that he posts plagiarizes stand unopposed.

Hard to believe they're from mainstream publications. Just goes to show the psyops that we're buried in every day.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger





Yup.

BTW... Have you seen the muzzle for the dog? I can't seem to find it anywhere.



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Saturday, April 15, 2023 5:51 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

BTW... Have you seen the muzzle for the dog? I can't seem to find it anywhere.

I know where you're coming from, 6ix. Trump is howling at the moon:

Trump is trying to win more GOP voters with bizarre takes on the Ukraine war and praise for Putin

Trump made repeated false and misleading claims about the Ukraine war during a Fox News interview.

Trump praised Putin as "very smart" amid the stalemated and brutal fight the Russian leader ordered.

Trump's grasp of the war's appeared spotty and an echo of Russia's propaganda.

Trump repeatedly made false and misleading claims about the war in Ukraine while offering high praise for the Russian leader and accused war criminal who launched it.

Trump said Russian President Vladimir Putin "loved" Ukraine, while acknowledging that the unprovoked war Putin ordered has devastated the former Soviet republic. "He considers it to be a part of Russia," Trump said of Putin's view on Ukraine, which was among the few accurate remarks the former president made on the subject during the interview with Fox News' Tucker Carlson — who also has routinely echoed the Kremlin's propaganda on the war.

At one point in the interview, Trump also appeared to suggest — without evidence — that the US was responsible for explosions that damaged the Nord Stream pipelines, the kind of attack line often heard in Russian state-run media.

"I don't want to get our country in trouble," Trump said when asked about the Nord Stream sabotage.

The former president also falsely said that the Biden administration has "taken the military that I've rebuilt, and they've given it all to Ukraine."

At times, Trump was unintelligible during the interview with Carlson as he jumped from one topic to another. But the former president was quite clear when it came to praising of US adversaries, as he lauded Putin as "very smart," North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un as "smart," and Chinese leader Xi Jinping as "brilliant." It was not the first time Trump has expressed admiration for some of the most repressive leaders in the world. Trump, for example, previously described Putin's justification for invading Ukraine as "genius."

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-offers-false-takes-on-ukraine-pr
aises-putin-tucker-interview-2023-4


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, April 15, 2023 5:59 AM

Russian state television has claimed Donald Trump is "laying the groundwork" for the U.S. to make a deal to help end the war in Ukraine.

During an episode of the 60 Minutes program, host Evgeny Popov discussed the former president's recent interview with Fox News' Tucker Carlson.

During the interview, Trump suggested that Ukraine "cannot win" the war with Russia, while also appearing to suggest the U.S. should stop sending military aid to Kyiv.

"Putin, very smart. Now, he's had, probably a bad year," Trump said. "If he took over all of Ukraine what are we going to do because Biden is so committed to Ukraine. What happens if it's not a winnable war?

"There are people that say Ukraine cannot win. You can't beat Russia…Russia right now is making massive amounts of ammunition, beyond anything they've ever made before. We don't have any ammunition. We've given it to Ukraine."

While playing segments of Trump's interview, Popov said the former president had proposed that the U.S. "surrender" and stop assisting Ukraine's fight against Russia.

"According to Trump, America is tired of fighting Russia," Popov said. "Western politicians imposed more sanctions on Russia than they did against Iran and North Korea put together.

"They promised everyone a quick victory and the crash of Russia's economy. Instead, the bank system in the U.S. is falling apart and the European economy is falling into recession.

"According to Trump, Moscow has already won the economic war. Republicans understand they will have to make a deal, and Donald is laying the groundwork."

The show then played a section of Trump's interview in which he warned about Russia's nuclear weapon capabilities, as well as the threat of such weapons being used if World War III were to break out.

Trump has frequently attacked the U.S. response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and repeatedly claimed he could end the war "within 24 hours," without revealing how.

In March, the former president told Fox News' Sean Hannity that part of his suggested peace plan would be to allow Russia to "take over" parts of Ukraine.

"That's without even negotiating a deal. I could have negotiated. At worst, I could've made a deal to take over something, there are certain areas that are Russian-speaking areas, frankly, but you could've worked a deal," Trump told Hannity in a radio interview.

In March 2022, a report from Mother Jones revealed the Russian government instructed its news outlets to show clips of Carlson "as much as possible" because of his critical views of U.S. policy. Carlson has also been accused of echoing Russian propaganda on his Fox News show.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-groundwork-ukraine-russia-war-1794144

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, April 15, 2023 8:25 AM

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