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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Saturday, March 4, 2023 2:18 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And you* pretend that your* goal isn't to destroy Russia?

OMFG you're such a liar. Nobody can believe a word you post, you contradict yourself (i.e. lie) every post.

You write like you are North Korean. They go on and on about having a strong military, with many nukes, because North Koreans do NOT want to be slaves to the US like South Koreans are.

The North Koreans also never skip a chance to tell the world that they have an independent economy that does not need to trade with countries plotting to enslave the North Koreans.

Funny how Russian propaganda is becoming very similar to North Korea. Great minds think alike.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, March 4, 2023 2:56 AM

March 03, 2023 | Beyond the Horizon | Estonia

Few countries have been more stalwart in their opposition to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine than Estonia.

A former Soviet republic and current NATO member with a nearly 200-mile-long border with Russia, Estonia has for years been ringing alarm bells about Russian espionage, military provocations and other meddling. The Russian-speaking community that comprises around a quarter of Estonia’s population has complained that they are in the middle of a tug-of-war between the West and Russia, too.

“I don’t think there can be any relations as usual with a pariah state that hasn’t really given up the imperialistic goals,” Estonian Prime Minister Kaja Kallas said in Munich recently, according to an Associated Press story that said Estonia is the largest per-capita supplier of military aid to Ukraine. “If we don’t learn this lesson and don’t prosecute the crimes of aggression, the war crimes will just continue.”

It’s no surprise, then, that Estonia and Europe’s relations with Russia have become central to the Baltic country’s parliamentary elections on March 5. Kallas, moreover, is not running for reelection, meaning that voters know they will be choosing a new leader.

As the Baltic News Network recently reported, the Estonian Conservative People’s Party (EKRE) has threatened to sue local media outlets that published a Politico article claiming that the party has ties to the Wagner Group, a private military contractor with insider ties to the Kremlin that has supplied Russian President Vladimir Putin with some of its most fearsome fighters.

Politico wrote that Wagner supported the EKRE’s right-wing, Euroskeptical messaging. Part of the alleged Russian-backed messaging for the party included a #ESTexitEU keyword on social media promoting Estonia’s exit from the European Union. The party denied having any connection to Wagner or Russian operatives.

The EKRE is the main rival to Kallas’ liberal Reform Party, which has ruled the country in a coalition with the center-left Social Democratic Party and the conservative Isamaa Party, the Robert Schuman Foundation explained. Polls show the Reform Party will likely garner the most votes but will still need coalition partners to form a government.

Russia isn’t the only major issue in the election. High energy costs and soaring inflation have hammered the Estonian economy. Many Estonian voters feel as if Kallas and her allies have refused to deal with the twin crises, argued Tallinn University political scientist Tonis Saarts in the Baltic Times.

Such disputes are one reason why Lauri Husser, the leader of the left-wing party Eesti 200, wrote in an Estonian Public Broadcasting opinion piece that voters face a choice between marshaling the power of government to confront Estonia’s challenges (Husser’s preferred path), or embracing a conservative approach that equates national sovereignty with being outside the EU as the way forward.

Of course, Putin would recommend Estonians opt for the latter course of action.

https://www.dailychatter.com/stories/beyond-the-horizon/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, March 4, 2023 4:49 AM

Russia has no intention of invading Estonia, unless Estonia seriously prepares to invade Russia first. And that would be so suicidal on Estonia's part that they would have to go nationally nuts to do that.

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Saturday, March 4, 2023 5:16 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Russia has no intention of invading Estonia, unless Estonia seriously prepares to invade Russia first. And that would be so suicidal on Estonia's part that they would have to go nationally nuts to do that.

The Prime Minister of Estonia finds your promises so very reassuring. Actually, the PM doesn't, which is why joined NATO. That is also why Estonia supports Ukraine.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, March 4, 2023 5:26 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Russia has no intention of invading Estonia, unless Estonia seriously prepares to invade Russia first. And that would be so suicidal on Estonia's part that they would have to go nationally nuts to do that.

The Prime Minister of Estonia finds your promises so very reassuring. Actually, the PM doesn't, which is why joined NATO. That is also why Estonia supports Ukraine.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



That's easy to do. It's not the Estonian men being sent to their death for NATO, just like Ted isn't being sent to his death for NATO.

Maybe they have cute little "Estonia Supports Ukraine" bumper stickers on their cars like the one Ted's been driving around with for a year.

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Saturday, March 4, 2023 6:18 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Russia has no intention of invading Estonia, unless Estonia seriously prepares to invade Russia first. And that would be so suicidal on Estonia's part that they would have to go nationally nuts to do that.

The Prime Minister of Estonia finds your promises so very reassuring. Actually, the PM doesn't, which is why joined NATO. That is also why Estonia supports Ukraine.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



That's easy to do. It's not the Estonian men being sent to their death for NATO, just like Ted isn't being sent to his death for NATO.

Maybe they have cute little "Estonia Supports Ukraine" bumper stickers on their cars like the one Ted's been driving around with for a year.

How many NATO troops were sent to Ukraine? Zero, despite what Russia says, but Russia keeps threatening to nuke the world for sending troops that have not been sent.

How much money did Estonia send to Ukraine? More than 1% of its GDP, despite Russia threatening to nuke anybody who sends weapons to Ukraine. The world is just being gracious and polite toward two mentally ill countries that desperately need psychiatric help, but if Russia or North Korea actually do what they continuously threaten to do, we will see what the world does back.

"how much money has estonia sent to ukraine"
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+much+money+has+estonia+sent+to+ukr
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, March 4, 2023 7:12 AM

It's a good thing that "NATO" troops aren't in Ukraine and "NATO" weapons aren't in Ukraine bc that way there will be no deaths of foreign soldiers and no destroyed foreign equipment.


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Saturday, March 4, 2023 7:36 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's a good thing that "NATO" troops aren't in Ukraine and "NATO" weapons aren't in Ukraine bc that way there will be no deaths of foreign soldiers and no destroyed foreign equipment.



Yeah. And, yanno... That would be starting WWIII if we stop pretending that Ukraine is just defending itself and they made it all official like.

But try explaining that to either of the two inbreeders left in the RWED here that have been bouncing on Ukrainian flagpoles while jerking each other off for the last 365 days.



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Saturday, March 4, 2023 11:45 AM

Those two... I don't know what world they're living in. But I'll get back to that later.



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Saturday, March 4, 2023 5:11 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's a good thing that "NATO" troops aren't in Ukraine and "NATO" weapons aren't in Ukraine bc that way there will be no deaths of foreign soldiers and no destroyed foreign equipment.



Yeah. And, yanno... That would be starting WWIII if we stop pretending that Ukraine is just defending itself and they made it all official like.

But try explaining that to either of the two inbreeders left in the RWED here that have been bouncing on Ukrainian flagpoles while jerking each other off for the last 365 days.



The Russians murdered 4,000,000 Ukrainians in the Holodomor, a word derived from 'to kill by starvation' and the Russians are doing it again:

Kherson torture centers were planned by the Russian state, say lawyers

The lawyers said on Thursday they had investigated 20 torture chambers in Kherson and concluded they were part of a “calculated plan to terrorize, subjugate and eliminate Ukrainian resistance and destroy Ukrainian identity”.

“The mass torture chambers, financed by the Russian state, are not random but rather part of a carefully thought-out and financed blueprint with a clear objective to eliminate Ukrainian national and cultural identity,” said the British barrister Wayne Jordash, who is leading the team.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/02/kherson-torture-centres-
were-planned-by-russian-state-say-lawyers


Attorney General Merrick Garland made an unannounced trip to Ukraine on Friday, according to a Justice Department official, his second trip to the country after Russia invaded a little more than a year ago.

On Wednesday, Garland testified to the Senate Judiciary Committee that he believed the Russian government was committing crimes against humanity and said the Justice Department supports efforts by The Hague to investigate and prosecute those crimes.

The attorney general last went to Ukraine in June. During that trip, Garland announced that he was appointing Eli Rosenbaum, the top US so-called “Nazi hunter,” to lead a Justice Department team to identify and prosecute war criminals.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/03/politics/merrick-garland-ukraine/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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