Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Quote:Signym, per usual, you misunderstand the situation completely.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Putin Casts War as a Battle for Russia's Survival
Biden*, Blinken, Nuland, Sullivan and SECOND cast war in Ukraine as plan to destroy Russia.
Putin and Signym were shocked when Colonel Qaddafi died, suddenly, from a bayonet puncture in a very private spot, but the Colonel should have expected it because he was playing the role of a Strong Man. He was too old for that role (69 years), had been in the job too long (42 years), and had acquired many enemies. He didn’t have the sense to retire sooner. Likewise, Putin has been serving for an awfully long time, he is older than Qaddafi, and he is not a convincing actor in the role of Strong Man. He has created enemies by the millions. Putin is due for his own bayoneting.
Muammar Gaddafi Capture and assassination
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_Gaddafi#Capture_and_assassinatio
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Hillary did she know there would be Slave Markets?
Second talks about Libya like Flooding the West with islamists was a good thing
with Russians you won't have people who go to a mosque five times a day, it will be chemical engineers, ex- soldiers good at math, people who fix your lawnmower or tv or hack, guys who know building and chemistry, thugs and killers and brawlers and ex drinkers and ex drug addicts and mafia type, physicist engineer, ex-KGB type, people mentally damaged from battles, some might even be part of a group in a factory and build hyper-sonic missiles....and its a good idea to flood these Russians across the former USSR and the rest of the world? maybe some Nuclear Engineers or someone who can home make a chemical or bio weapon
and all these mixed with real genuine 'refugees'
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
People are individuals. But Democrats don't understand that because all they want to do is throw everyone in intersectional boxes.
identity politics continues with Nu-Democrats
anyways some news
Putin casts war as a battle for Russias survival
ttps:// www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-russia-must-take-into-account-nato-
nuclear-capability-state-tv-2023-02-26/
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Signym, per usual, you misunderstand the situation completely.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Putin Casts War as a Battle for Russia's Survival
Biden*, Blinken, Nuland, Sullivan and SECOND cast war in Ukraine as plan to destroy Russia.
Putin and Signym were shocked when Colonel Qaddafi died, suddenly, from a bayonet puncture in a very private spot, but
SECOND doubles down on evil. Because a failed state where women (and men) are openly sold on the street as slaves is SO MUCH MORE PRFERABLE to a nation with a high standard of living and literacy!
Meanwhile
China openly sides with Russia and condemns USA bullying, I reference, forced regime changes, and hegemony.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/a-year-later-china-blames-us-hege
mony-not-russia-for-war-in-ukraine/ar-AA17NgmE
Wagner forces are hurriedly collecting Ukrainian bodies by the hundreds from around Bakhmut before the coming thaw starts them decaying.
Price of Russian oil holds firm at $71/ bbl.
China rattles EU cages at the Munich Security Conference.
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Quote:"Everything is going according to plan." - V. Putin.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND doubles down on evil. Because a failed state where women (and men) are openly sold on the street as slaves is SO MUCH MORE PRFERABLE to a nation with a high standard of living and literacy!
Meanwhile
China openly sides with Russia and condemns USA bullying, I reference, forced regime changes, and hegemony.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/a-year-later-china-blames-us-hege
mony-not-russia-for-war-in-ukraine/ar-AA17NgmE
Wagner forces are hurriedly collecting Ukrainian bodies by the hundreds from around Bakhmut before the coming thaw starts them decaying.
Price of Russian oil holds firm at $71/ bbl.
China rattles EU cages at the Munich Security Conference.
Putin has spoken that phrase, or variations, a thousand times. That one little phrase is all it takes to cause even the most apparently monumental loss to be completely turned on its head. Putin has been reading TV Tropes to learn what villains say. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AllAccordingToPlan
You might not know this, Signym, but when the bad guy falls, be he a Libyan Strong Man like Colonel Muammar Gaddafi or a Russian Strong Man such as Tsar Nicholas II, the people who depended on him suffer also. That is why Strong Men should not be empowered. When Strong Man Putin finally gets what he deserves, the people depending on him will suffer. Maybe only a little. Maybe a great deal if the Russian Federation falls apart. That all could be prevented if Putin would step down early rather than continue on-and-on, with no scheduled endpoint, as Strong Man for Life.
Signym, before you insist that Putin was democratically elected, the same is true for Kim in North Korea. Kim always wins. Kim always is the Strong Man until he dies. North Korea has not done well economically because there is always a new Kim to be the Strong Man. Russia has not done well economically because of its version of Strong Men leading a nation where everything is going according to plan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Russian_presidential_election
Kim Jong Un Wins 100% of Votes in North Korea Election
Young leader seals remarkable victory in country "seething with election atmosphere," according to state media.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/kim-jong-un-wins-100-votes-north-ko
rea-election-n49011
China's Xi allowed to remain 'president for life' as term limits removed
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-43361276
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Former Russian president, prime minister, and current Security Council Deputy Chairman Dmitry Medvedev issued a new round of threats to the West on Monday that the continued supply of arms to Ukraine will lead to atomic armageddon.
"Of course, the pumping in of weapons can continue .... and prevent any possibility of reviving negotiations," Medvedev said according to a Reuters report. "Our enemies are doing just that, not wanting to understand that their goals will certainly lead to a total fiasco. Loss for everyone. A collapse. Apocalypse. Where you forget for centuries about your former life, until the rubble ceases to emit radiation."
https://www.alternet.org/dmitry-medvedev-collapse-apocalypse-ukraine/
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I think its wrong to say China is supporting Russia, as both China and India are calling for an end to the war the Chinese even recently pushed a peace plan.
Many of Russia's former allies are calling for Russian withdrawal.
At the UN votes the only countries to vote no in support of Moscow were Belarus, North Korea, Eritrea and Syria.
The West accuses Iran and North Korea of selling weaponry.
Belarus got directly involved in the war
Russia economy falling makes goods cheaper for India, Arabia, South America, China and other buyers of Russian goods.
Of course there are many on both sides selling guns and making profit from bloood for some it will be like business as usual.
testing new killer robots
and are wars becoming failures or stalemates...does anyone win wars anymore
interwebs opinions
Russia will not win this war
https://www.happierabroad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=44918
'We come in Peace ... Shoot to Kill!' ...
https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/29808-we-come-in-peace-sh
oot-to-kill/
War
Ukraine border
https://atthemac.proboards.com/thread/380/ukraine-border
https://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/3360156-u
kraine-war-1367.html
2022-2023 Russo-Ukrainian War
https://www.worldaffairsboard.com/forum/international-defense-geopolit
ics-discussion/europe-and-russia/1578933-2022-2023-russo-ukrainian-war/page506
Five futures for Russia Ukraine war
https://www.politicsforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=182943
Ukraine War Video
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1648588695
Russian invasion of Ukraine ...They wouldn't be that stupid, would they?
https://www.avforums.com/threads/russian-invasion-of-ukraine.2386753/
Ukraine war and when Russia will collaps?
https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=334674&postdays=0&a
mp;postorder=asc&start=225
Interesting conversation about Ukraine, one year into the war
https://politicalhotwire.com/t/interesting-conversation-about-ukraine-
one-year-into-the-war.265437/
the show must go on?
Eurovision tickets to be allocated to displaced Ukrainians in UK
https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/364326-eurovision-ti
ckets-to-be-allocated-to-displaced-ukrainians-in-uk/
Russian invasion of Ukraine
https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=7173708
Ukraine Crisis
http://www.rationalskepticism.org/news-politics/ukraine-crisis-t57137.
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Quote:But many nations, including China and India, abstained.
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
I think its wrong to say China is supporting Russia, as both China and India are calling for an end to the war the Chinese even recently pushed a peace plan.
Many of Russia's former allies are calling for Russian withdrawal.
At the UN votes the only countries to vote no in support of Moscow were Belarus, North Korea, Eritrea and Syria.
Also, what China presented was not a "peace plan". It didn't lay out terms.and concessions from each side. It wasn't even a "road map" (i.e. first this has to happen then that has to happen.,)
It was a set of principles for lasting peace, worldwide, which called for- among other things- an end to color revolutions, interference in other nation's internal affairs, respect for sovereignty etc and listed America's numerous invasions and destabilizations. China CLEARLY puts the blame for the Ukraine clusterfuck on the United States.
You should read the actual Chinese statements and not speak from such a deep well of ignorance.
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Quote:I know why an end to color revolutions is on Signym's list. An end to color revolutions is on Putin's list:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But many nations, including China and India, abstained.
Also, what China presented was not a "peace plan". It didn't lay out terms.and concessions from each side. It wasn't even a "road map" (i.e. first this has to happen then that has to happen.,)
It was a set of principles for lasting peace, worldwide, which called for- among other things- an end to color revolutions, interference in other nation's internal affairs, respect for sovereignty etc and listed America's numerous invasions and destabilizations. China CLEARLY puts the blame for the Ukraine clusterfuck on the United States.
You should read the actual Chinese statements and not speak from such a deep well of ignorance.
War in Ukraine ‘stems from the Orange Revolution, a humiliating ordeal for Putin’
Issued on: 26/02/2023 – 18:17
Text by: Lou ROMÉO
One year into the war that Russia launched against Ukraine, FRANCE 24 takes a closer look at the anti-Western rhetoric President Vladimir Putin used to justify the conflict, which is rooted in events in the early 2000s, according to historian Françoise Thom, an expert on post-Communist Russia.
On February 24, 2022, as a Putin speech was broadcast on television, Russian troops were penetrating into Ukrainian territory, initiating the most important military operation on European soil since World War II.
During his speech, the Russian president tried to justify the invasion with a brutal tirade against the Kyiv government, which he described as “neo-Nazi”, and against the perceived threat posed by NATO and the US against Russia.
This rhetoric, far from being new, dates back to Ukraine's Maidan Revolution in 2014 and Orange Revolution in 2004, according to historian Françoise Thom, an expert on post-Communist Russia, who spoke with FRANCE 24.
FRANCE 24: In February 2022, Putin justified the invasion of Ukraine by citing the necessity to shield Russia from NATO and the West. When was the first time the Kremlin used this rhetoric?
Françoise Thom: Vladimir Putin’s anti-Western rhetoric is long-standing. We can date the change in the Kremlin’s discourse to the colour revolutions between 2003 and 2004. At that time, a wave of anti-corruption and pro-democratic liberal movements were sweeping across several post-Soviet states, namely Georgia – the Rose Revolution – and in Ukraine where the Orange Revolution took place in 2004.
In my opinion, the ongoing war stems from the Orange Revolution, which was a humiliating ordeal for Putin. The candidate he backed, Viktor Yanukovych, lost the popular vote to a pro-European candidate, Viktor Yushchenko, in the 2004 elections.
The outcome was a slap in the face for Putin and he developed an intense hatred towards Ukraine and its people. Interpreting the turn of events as the result of US interference, the ex-KGB agent saw scheming by the US as the only reason for his candidate’s loss.
Putin’s paranoid rhetoric took root from that point on. As illustrated by Kremlin ideologist Vladislav Surkov in a 2004 text: “The enemy is on our doorsteps, we have to defend every Russian and every household against the West”.
During the 2007 Munich Security Conference, Putin challenged the West, especially the US. He then followed up by launching a reform of Russia’s military in 2008. The war against Ukraine therefore has very old roots. Far from an improvisation, the current conflict is part of a wider context tied to Russia’s row with the West.
FRANCE 24: US foundations were quite active in Ukraine and Georgia in the 1990s and 2000s. What was their role that Putin condemned?
Françoise Thom: Indeed, there were US foundations operating in Ukraine as well as in Georgia during the colour revolutions. They aimed to train a new generation of ex
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Quote:So, I take it you would be OK with Russia or China .... or Soros ... funding revolution in the USA?
Originally posted by second:Quote:I know why an end to color revolutions is on Signym's list. An end to color revolutions is on Putin's list:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But many nations, including China and India, abstained.
Also, what China presented was not a "peace plan". It didn't lay out terms.and concessions from each side. It wasn't even a "road map" (i.e. first this has to happen then that has to happen.,)
It was a set of principles for lasting peace, worldwide, which called for- among other things- an end to color revolutions, interference in other nation's internal affairs, respect for sovereignty etc and listed America's numerous invasions and destabilizations. China CLEARLY puts the blame for the Ukraine clusterfuck on the United States.
You should read the actual Chinese statements and not speak from such a deep well of ignorance.
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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Quote:The USA did NOT fund the color revolutions which Putin despises. Putin said the USA did fund the color revolutions because Putin didn't want to state aloud the real reason: Putin doesn't want Russians to get the idea that Putin could be overthrown as were Putin's chosen political candidates.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, I take it you would be OK with Russia or China .... or Soros ... funding revolution in the USA?
There is an unfortunate psychological mechanism working inside people like Putin. The Strong Man always judges himself as irreplaceable, whether his name is Putin, or Kim, or Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, or Bashar al-Assad, or Donald Trump. Any lie, any violence, anything is justified to remain the Strong Man. How do Strong Men get away with this unfortunate behavior?
Most people don't know when a dictator is a dictator because he was elected. For example, every Kim received 100% of the vote for generation after generation. How could a Kim be a dictator when 100% of his people love him? How could Bashar al-Assad possibly be a dictator when he receives 95% of the vote? The man is loved by his people, I tell you! Before Colonel Gaddafi's death, he was loved and had the votes to prove it. Kim, Assad and Putin are all buddies. Dictators couldn't be re-elected in a Democracy, could they? The people would never vote for a dictator, would they?
How did Colonel Muammar Gaddafi maintain and grow the love his people felt for him?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Libya_under_Muammar_Gaddafi#
Revolutionary_sector
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