Russia wants to upend Western democracy
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UPDATED: Monday, August 31, 2026 20:48
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
LMAO.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
I think Ted is actually going insane.
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Originally posted by THG: Saturday, December 26, 2020
As true today as when I started this thread and now with Biden and a renewed relationship with our allies, the shit is going to hit the fan.
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Biden* shit his pants this morning. Something he does in his diapers every morning.
Biden* doesn't even know that he's the President.
Get fucked, Ted.
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THUGR, let's take this step by step.
What are the essential features of OUR democracy (aside from a free, fair, and private vote... which I'm pretty sure we don't have anymore)?
Some Founding Fathers were highly educated. They read Plato and other philoosphers. They were aware of the injustices and errors of previous governments:
Star Chamber proceedings (ie secret trials by the monarch), followed by brutal punishment and death. This was a common practice by monarchies who would routinely imprison political rivals in places like the infamous Tower of London ("Here comes a candle to light you to bed, here comes a chopper to chop off your head" or 'London Bridge is falling down... take the key and lock her up, my fair lady"), the equally infamous Bastile, or other nasty dungeons.
Interminable religious wars between Catholics and Protestants, culminating in the 30 years war.
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The Thirty Years’ War was a 17th-century religious conflict fought primarily in central Europe. It remains one of the longest and most brutal wars in human history, with more than 8 million casualties resulting from military battles as well as from the famine and disease
https://www.history.com/topics/reformation/thirty-years-war#section_5
The sectarian wars were so intense that in one city in Switzerland (IIRC Bern) as two Protestant sects seesawed for control, the people were afraid to even glance at cemeteries as they were passing, lest they be accused of idolatry and punished or killed.
Since many FF were Catholic and many were Protestant, some were deist and a few were (quietly) agnostic, they decided to not let religion be a division.
Oppressive taxation. The legend of Robin Hood didn't come from nothing!
The role of monopolies, then Crown Corporations like the East India Company operating under a "charter" granted by the King of England. It was East India tea that was dumped into Boston Harbor.
They were even aware of the noxious role if private banks,like the Bank if England (which was indeed private, and not a government bank despite its name.
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The Bank of England was incorporated by act of Parliament in 1694 with the immediate purpose of raising funds to allow the English government to wage war against France in the Low Countries. A royal charter allowed the bank to operate as a joint-stock bank with limited liability. No other joint-stock banks were permitted in England and Wales until 1826. This special status and its position as the government’s banker gave the bank considerable competitive advantages.
Unremitting spying on the people for any sign of revolt. It's a mistake to think that kings and queens only concerned themselves with other titled families. Common nursery rhymes you might have heard when you were little were actually coded protests that allowed the population to grumble without being imprisoned. "Jack Sprat could eat no fat, His wife could eat no lean" was a coded protests against taxation.
... time to go. Later.
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The framers of the Constitution were a diverse group. Northeasterners tended to be farmers, shopkeepers and clergymen. Middle East coast were often overseas merchants. Southerners tended to have plantations and slaves. They all wanted their interests represented. (See "Decision in Philadelphia") But the theorists among them were a sophisticated group, and they thought long and hard about how to NOT recreate the oppressive centralized tyranny they escaped.
After drafting the Constitution they set about formalizing the liberties they felt would ensure that the government remsun responsive to the people.
You should know most of them. I'll get to them later. Aside from the vote, it is those rights which form our democracy.
It's hard for me to see how Russia could upend our democracy any more than we've done it ourselves.
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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THUGR, let's take this step by step.
Yeah sure.
Step 1, delete the commies post in my reply.
Step 2, tell the commie, fuck you.
Fuck you commie.
Done
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Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THUGR, let's take this step by step.
Yeah sure.
Step 1, delete the commies post in my reply.
Step 2, tell the commie, fuck you.
Fuck you commie.
Done
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Fuck you, NeoCon.
Biggest goddamned idiot on the internet and we're stuck with him.
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SIGNYM:
THUGR, let's take this step by step.
THUGR: Yeah sure.
Step 1, delete the commies post in my reply.
Step 2, tell the commie, fuck you.
Fuck you commie.
Done
SIGNY: Wow. I guess uundestanding western democracy is just too much for you?
Yanno, when I went to school (IN THE UNITED STATES) I was given basic civic lessons: a gloss of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, division of powers. They even covered the whole "3/5 of slaves" compromise. Some of the history of why the Constitution has some of the provisions that it does.
You must have been playing hooky that week.
I've learned additional history since then. Did you know, for example, that Ben Franklin was not only a scientist, writer and publisher, he was so concerned about deforestation he invented a more efficient stove (the Ben Franklin stove). And that he believed that it was so important Americans be educated and be able to communicate he opened the first library and founded the US Postal Service.
He was also our ambassador to France, tasked with obtaining help for our revolution. And despite his advice in Poor Richard's Almanac, he was quite a libertine and enjoyed the company of many French ladies.
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Putin approves law targeting journalists as 'foreign agents'
Vladimir Putin has signed a law that will allow Russia to declare journalists and bloggers as “foreign agents” in a move critics say will allow the Kremlin to target government critics.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-approves-law-targeting-jour
nalists-as-foreign-agents/ar-BBXGvc7?ocid=spartandhp
Dear comrades kiki, and sig. While you're bashing America, your homeland is crumbling. It's turning into one big gulag. A country that is just one big penal system. Don't forget to show your papers when you visit your relatives there.
Dos Vadanya
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