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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Tuesday, December 27, 2022 4:06 AM

BTW, that is the standard "color revolution" scenario that the American CIA and State Department (and affiliated NGOs) use to destabilize governments that they don't like: Set up "NGOs" under the guise of "human rights" (the old wording), or "promoting freedom/democracy" or, most recently, promoting "diversity".

Identify a significant ethnic, racial, religious, or tribal divisions. Identify wedge issues: language, economic inequity, ethnic identity, political representation, headscarves... whatever, it doesn't have to be important .... and hammer on it, funding groups willing to get riled about whatever. Manipulate politicians, incite riots, and invite government reaction/ repression to polarize the situation further.

Seen it done in Syria, Libya, Iran, Thailand, (the former) Yugoslavia, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Ukraine, Georgia, etc etc. If successful, pick and prop up an alternate leader.

That's how the world got Juan "Random Guy" Guaido and Voldemort Zelensky.

Notice that it seems to be happening HERE, TOO?

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Tuesday, December 27, 2022 4:33 AM

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Notice that it seems to be happening HERE, TOO?



Glad to see you wrapped it up with this question, because I was about to say "And now, on our shores!"

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Tuesday, December 27, 2022 5:41 AM

The entire world is pleased that Russia, not EU, not US, not NATO, will decide who wins (Maybe)

Russia's Lavrov: Either Ukraine fulfills Moscow's proposals or our army will decide

By Ronald Popeski and Lidia Kelly

Dec 27 (Reuters) - Moscow's proposals for settlement in Ukraine are well known to Kyiv and either Ukraine fulfills them for their own good or the Russian army will decide the issue, TASS agency quoted Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov as saying.

"Our proposals for the demilitarization and denazification of the territories controlled by the regime, the elimination of threats to Russia's security emanating from there, including our new lands, are well known to the enemy," the state news agency quoted Lavrov as saying late on Monday.

"The point is simple: Fulfill them for your own good. Otherwise, the issue will be decided by the Russian army."

Moscow has been calling its invasion in Ukraine a "special military operation" to "demilitarise" and "denazify" its neighbour. Kyiv and its Western allies call it an imperial-style aggression to grab land.

In September, Moscow proclaimed it had annexed four provinces of Ukraine - Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson - after holding so-called referendums that were rejected as bogus and illegal by Kyiv and its allies.

On Sunday, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Moscow was open to negotiations and blamed Kyiv and its Western backers for a lack of talks, a stance Washington has previously dismissed as posturing amid persistent Russian attacks.

Lavrov told TASS that when it comes to how long the conflict will last, "the ball is in the regime's court and Washington behind it."

There is no end in sight to the war, which has entered its 11th month and which has killed thousands, displaced millions and turned cities into rubble.

Kyiv has ruled out conceding any land to Russia in return for peace, and publicly demands Russia relinquish all territory. Moscow has insisted it is pursing "demilitarisation" and "denazification" but in reality its aims have not been fully defined.

Additional reporting by Oleksandr Kozhukhar in Kyiv; Writing by Lidia Kelly and Ron Popeski; Editing by Sandra Maler

https://www.reuters.com/world/russias-lavrov-either-ukraine-fulfils-mo
scows-proposals-or-our-army-will-decide-2022-12-26
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Tuesday, December 27, 2022 5:49 AM

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For my 2022 taxes, I'm adding Voldemort Zelensky as a dependent on my 1040.



Pfwaahhh!!!

You owe me a new smartphone!!




Let’s be clear ok. The Democrats had a history making mid-term election. Trump has legal problems too numerous to list. The House Republicans can’t get their act together enough to elect a House Majority leader. And if they do, not only will he not have the power to get anything done. He’s going to be led around by the nose by the Republican looneys. That is going to be very entertaining and helpful to the Democrats in 2024.

Now, Biden wins again. He is signing a just passed 1.7 trillion-dollar Federal spending bill. A bill the house Republicans threatened the Senate Republicans not to pass. It includes 45 billion in aid to Ukraine and our NATO allies. 777.2 billion in nondefense discretionary spending. 858 billion in defense spending.

It includes The Electoral Count Reform Act. $47.5 billion for the National Institutes of Health, $9.2 billion for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and $950 million for the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority. It has a $13.4 billion increase for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. It has a boost of $28.5 billion for child nutrition programs.

New Section 8 Housing Choice Vouchers they say would support over 11,000 additional low-income households, as well as a boost to maximum Pell Grant award.

Eight amendments adopted include proposals aimed at allowing proceeds from assets seized from sanctioned Russian oligarchs to be put toward Ukraine aid . Plus a measure aimed at strengthening protections for breastfeeding workers and another dealing with compensation for 9/11 victims.

Biden just keeps winning guys, so again I say let’s be clear. All the news is, has been, and is going to continue to be, happy news for me, not so much for you.




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You are a troll comrade signym. There is no debate about it. You are a troll. And so is comrade Jackass.



If you knew how to read anything other than headlines from CNN you'd know that this wasn't true.

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Ukraine is the Economist's Country of the Year.

You couldn't even understand how funny that is to a guy who lived off of $7,200 in 2022.

Seriously, Second... Thanks for starting my Christmas off with a belly laugh and a smile.


Each year The Economist picks a “country of the year”. The award goes not to the biggest, the richest or the happiest, but to the one that improved the most that year.



I would certainly hope that they improved.

They've now gotten $113 Billion in gifts from US Taxpayers in 2022 alone. And this last $45 Billion gift comes at the cost of 19 Million Americans losing Medicaid in April of 2023.


It would be like giving Rookie of the Year status to a guy who was shot up with horse steroids all year by his coach while the media turned a blind eye to that and the corked bat that Sammy Sosa gave him, all while the stadium they played in crumbled around them and they couldn't afford to repair it because his salary ate up all the revenue.



Fuck Ukraine.

#Rootin4Putin

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Tuesday, December 27, 2022 6:03 AM

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The entire world is pleased that Russia, not EU, not US, not NATO, will decide who wins (Maybe)



Am I the only one to notice that every time SECOND gets his ass handed to him about one of his crap-posts, he splatters the board with a different kind of stink?

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Tuesday, December 27, 2022 6:18 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by second:
The entire world is pleased that Russia, not EU, not US, not NATO, will decide who wins (Maybe)



Am I the only one to notice that every time SECOND gets his ass handed to him about one of his crap-posts, he splatters the board with a different kind of stink?

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Nope.

It's also why most of my threads only get one or two posts on them and Ted's and Seconds get hundreds of posts.



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Tuesday, December 27, 2022 7:55 AM


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The entire world is pleased that Russia, not EU, not US, not NATO, will decide who wins (Maybe)

SIGNY: Am I the only one to notice that every time SECOND gets his ass handed to him about one of his crap-posts, he splatters the board with a different kind of stink?


SIX: Nope.
It's also why most of my threads only get one or two posts on them and Ted's and Seconds get hundreds of posts.




Well, I think a lot of ppl also basically agree with you, so no comment necessary.

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Tuesday, December 27, 2022 5:26 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by second:
The entire world is pleased that Russia, not EU, not US, not NATO, will decide who wins (Maybe)



Am I the only one to notice that every time SECOND gets his ass handed to him about one of his crap-posts, he splatters the board with a different kind of stink?

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The very first time I commented at fireflyfans was in 2013 to something Signym wrote here:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=56323&mid=94921
8#949218


Signym was an absurdity in 2013 as Signym continues to be, as Russians continue to be:

It is unbearable to read, but necessary to face: “Russian troops raped and tortured children in Ukraine, U.N. panel says.” (Article here. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russian-troops-raped-tortured-child
ren-ukraine-un-panel-says-rcna49168
) Is it any wonder that Ukrainians want to repel this evil invasion? And that they don’t want to leave any of their people to the mercy of such invaders and occupiers?

Every day, Russian propagandists call the Ukrainians “Nazis.” So do their echoers in the West. This is what psychologists call, I believe, “projection.”

• Also unbearable to read — unbearable to watch — but necessary to face: “Caught on Camera, Traced by Phone: The Russian Military Unit That Killed Dozens in Bucha” (here https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000008299178/ukraine-buc
ha-russia-massacre-video.html?smid=url-share
). There is no denying the nature of Russian forces in Ukraine — except to the extent that there are always people who deny war crimes and crimes against humanity, from the Holocaust to individual massacres.

• Earlier this year, some 1,200 people gathered in the Mariupol theater, to take refuge from Russian bombing. These included children, of course. A large sign indicating children was “daubed in Russian in front of the theatre,” as the BBC says. ( https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64075088 ) Then the Russians bombed the theater. “Ukrainian authorities believe 300 people were killed but an AP investigation said the number was closer to 600. Many of the bodies were found in the basement.”

Now, of course, the Russians are destroying what remained of the theater (as the above-linked BBC report says). Why? The better to cover up war crimes, clearly.

More about Russians at https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/so-much-in-the-world-depends-on-
you
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Tuesday, December 27, 2022 7:14 PM

Second, you have been lying since you started posting here. How you manage such a continuous stream of bullshit is beyond me, but somehow you keep shitting it out.

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THG
Tuesday, December 27, 2022 7:32 PM

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Originally posted by second:
The entire world is pleased that Russia, not EU, not US, not NATO, will decide who wins (Maybe)

SIGNY: Am I the only one to notice that every time SECOND gets his ass handed to him about one of his crap-posts, he splatters the board with a different kind of stink?


SIX: Nope.
It's also why most of my threads only get one or two posts on them and Ted's and Seconds get hundreds of posts.




Well, I think a lot of ppl also basically agree with you, so no comment necessary.






No comrade, and that’s because TWO cleans your clock with every post. You, Jack and kiki before she crawled back under her rock, or died, never post facts. Your posts are always mired in emotion and propaganda. SECOND always posts facts. You see, SECOND likes to be right. None of us is always right, but you three never are.

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