FIREFLY: THE VIRTUAL SEASON

POSTED BY: kayleeholic
UPDATED: Monday, January 27, 2003 00:33
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SARAHETC

Monday, January 20, 2003 5:39 PM

Woo! Exciting! Helluva episode! I kept skipping little bits and having to go back I was so excited.

I think that the detonate a device once they break atmo idea is a super great one! I think that the photography for that sequence would rule.

Go man! Yeah!

LOSTANGEL

Monday, January 20, 2003 6:09 PM

Geez, this is good! Is there gonna be more detail? I can't wait to see it fleshed out. I don't think I could do justice to your literary skills Guailo.

Of course, if you want, I could try.
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Lost Angel

WASH: Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction.
ZOE: We live in a space ship, dear.
WASH: So?

GUAILO

Monday, January 20, 2003 6:37 PM

Thanks folks, but I couldn't have gotten to this point without bashing heads together with you lot, so the state it's in has to be attributed somewhat to you people as well.

I loosely consider myself a writer because I'm trying to get published writing Doctor Who as we speak...not an easy endeavor. Sci-Fi is what I really love, but Firefly also hits a chord in that it's a western family drama like Gunsmoke or something, and I grew up as a little kid watching that stuff first before I ever saw my first Star Trek.

Fleshing out the details is mandatory here. I don't really like that Inara, Zoe, River, Book and Jayne are in the background or completely left out. Writing out Inara is easy: giver her a client to tend to. Jayne I can see being allowed to wander off and reaise hell, if for no other reason than he wouldn't be ding it on Serenity in that case. Zoe is a great charcter but doesn't have a lot of deapth yet, so I'm not really certain what to do with her. And Book can't simply talk like Yoda every show and River can't stqand around acting weird...that gets old. However, I think maybe with the latter two, there could be scene or two where Book and River are discussing that she's been much more calm since shooting up all the badies in the cargo hold. She doesn't feel remorse and hasn't wigged out, and that makes Book concerned. Delve a little into both thier psyches, but that seems forcing them into an already complex story.

I also don't mind calling it something other than "Objects in Motion" since that was a title brought up for other story ideas. How about "Crossroads" since it deals with making a new ally, choosing sides, etc?

As far as fleshing it out, any ideas you folks have is more than welcome. :)

LOSTANGEL

Monday, January 20, 2003 7:01 PM

I forget where it was mentioned, but a good River/Jayne connection would do wonders. (oh yeah, I think I mentioned it!

But if you think about it, Jayne is not as bad as he wants us to think he is, actually, he's not as one-dimensional as he wants to believe he is, but not nearly as complicated as anyone else on board. Maybe River can find comfort in his mental simplicity (that sounds bad, please tell my you know what I'm talking about)

Book definitely needs some episodes devoted to figuring out who he really is and what his past is about.

Having an episode where Zoe is not the sterotypical warrior woman would be good. She is so level headed, even when being forced to choose between the two men in her life, so doesn't get visibly agitated, just takes care of business. Maybe an episode where she thinks she's pregnant, then gets all moody because she thinks it's the hormones and stuff (then find out she's not, can't have a baby in season 2, have to wait a bit for that)

We could also do something where Inara starts looking at the greener grass thing. Maybe she momentarily wants a simpler life, where she doesn't have to deal with politics and soothing of egos and such. She tries to become a cook, or a mechanic, or farmer, only to realize she is doing what she does best. All sorts of moral dilemmas and such. A good twist is if Book helps her to realize this.

I am keeping all of the suggestions given out, and the great part about having a Season 2 is the multiple episodes. Enough room for everybody to shine!

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Lost Angel

WASH: Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction.
ZOE: We live in a space ship, dear.
WASH: So?

SARAHETC

Monday, January 20, 2003 9:52 PM

All y'all have such great ideas!

Gets me to thinking too. A suggestion, if I may (an a tangential rant maybe, later):

Maybe the subplot or sideplot, whatever, of this ep with Wash's old buddy, etc., could be that Jayne, Book, and River get into a situation somewhere. They get humped. Jayne has consistently given us the "You're gonna tell us how a preacher knows so much" lines. And Book has been most varied around River. When he's around River, he's not being all Yoda. I saw Jaynestown for the first time this weekend and even with semi-crappy sound, I was still fascinated by the tug-of-war for the pages. That devolved into comic relief, kinda, but the scene at the dining table was great.

So Jayne and Book and River are cut off from the rest of the crew and the rest don't immediately understand that they're gone. Simon is too wrapped up in making choices about Kaylee. (Does this set up a later "guilt" arc?) In this situation, Jayne keeps trying to be in control while Book out guesses him or second guesses him or just plain gets it right where Jayne doesn't. And River affects people, maybe even goes a little Jedi, certainly does the fool 'em thing, like she did with Badger.

Serenity goes down, the shuttle crash lands and River is the one helping Simon out of the rubble. Book gets the inside information on Early (he's still our major villain here, right?) and presents it to the captain. Jayne thinks Mal's same thoughts about Wash's friend being a traitor and before Simon can give his "we have to decide" speech (Which was FANTASTIC, btw), Jayne goes off and tries to do him in. This leads to more tension between Jayne and Wash (anybody else just *hate* it when Jayne calls him "little man"?). There might be a fight there. There might also be a chance for Zoe to step up and really duke it out with Jayne. That arc could continue. Or Wash could tell her that this is his fight and then he whoops up on Jayne (represed rage, post traumatic stress disorder, generally angry at him for being such an ass all the time) and the power structure on board Serenity shifts. A little or lot. For a time or for good.

Just some ideas.

No tangential rant right now. I'll hang onto it.

Sarah

LOSTANGEL

Monday, January 20, 2003 10:40 PM

I like. This has the possibility of being its own episode all by its little ole self.

Definitely a keeper.

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Lost Angel

WASH: Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction.
ZOE: We live in a space ship, dear.
WASH: So?

GUAILO

Tuesday, January 21, 2003 1:41 AM

I did ultimately find out today that the role of a bounty hunter is included in the episode "Heart of Gold" or "Trash", cant' remember which. I'll see if I can locate that info again, but as it's one of the un-aired episodes, perhaps leaving JE out of things for a start might be in order.

Just another tangent. :)

SENSOU

Tuesday, January 21, 2003 1:44 AM

Going back to the "River goes Jedi" thing, is it possible for her to aquire the Jedi mind trick?
Alliance officer: River Tam, you are ordered by law to stand down (or whatever the cops say)
River::waves hand:: This is not the girl you're looking for.
A.O.::to subordinates:: This is not the girl we're looking for.

Are there other mind tricks?

Sensou
The difference betwwen sports fans and sci-fi fans is that sci-fi fans have never trashed a train, booed Canada, or torn a man apart limb from limb.

RIVERSSHOT

Tuesday, January 21, 2003 2:37 AM

About the Book/River scene, where they discuss the shooting rampage: yes it would be going into a complex storyline, but actually going into the character's psyches might shed some light on the quiet/frigid girl turn sharpshooter into a calm, relaxed demeanor.

Story lines with River will always be fun... Of course I'm bias, I love River.

~Rivers_Shot~

GUAILO

Tuesday, January 21, 2003 2:51 PM

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About the Book/River scene, where they discuss the shooting rampage: yes it would be going into a complex storyline, but actually going into the character's psyches might shed some light on the quiet/frigid girl turn sharpshooter into a calm, relaxed demeanor.

I agree, but it just seems like squeezing too much into the one story.

How about this: A two-parter where we see the events of "Objects in Motion" with Hui, Jubal and all the rest running around and crashing shuttles and whatnot in part one, and then in part two, we see the rest of the crew (Book, River, Zoe, and Inara) doing whatever they did while everyone else was doing the rest. Basically, the end of part one and the end of part two would be the same but from different perspectives. Part two could include all the Book/River stuff, Inara making a connection for the crew in some way also and Zoe getting a chance to be in charge while Mal is away. Could work...

Mal: “The next time you decide to stab me in the back, have the guts to do it to my face.”

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