Russia keeps threatening with nukes
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In Washington, Putin’s nuclear threats stir growing alarm | October 1, 2022
The New York Times reports:
For the first time since the Cuban Missile Crisis in October 1962, top government leaders in Moscow are making explicit nuclear threats and officials in Washington are gaming out scenarios should President Vladimir V. Putin decide to use a tactical nuclear weapon to make up for the failings of Russian troops in Ukraine.
In a speech on Friday, Mr. Putin raised the prospect anew, calling the United States and NATO enemies seeking Russia’s collapse and declaring again that he would use “all available means” to defend Russian territory — which he has now declared includes four provinces of eastern Ukraine.
Mr. Putin reminded the world of President Harry S. Truman’s decision to drop atomic weapons on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan, 77 years ago, adding, “By the way, they created a precedent.” On Saturday, the strongman leader of the southern Russian republic of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, said Mr. Putin should consider using “low-yield nuclear weapons” in Ukraine, becoming the first prominent Russian official to openly call for such a strike.
Senior American officials say they think the chances that Mr. Putin would employ a nuclear weapon remain low. They say they have seen no evidence that he is moving any of his nuclear assets, and a recent Pentagon analysis suggests the military benefits would be few. And the cost for Mr. Putin — in a furious international response, perhaps even from the Chinese, whose support he needs most — could be tremendous.
But they are far more worried about the possibility now than they were at the beginning of the Ukraine conflict in February. After a series of humiliating retreats, astoundingly high casualty rates and a deeply unpopular move to draft young Russian men into service, Mr. Putin clearly sees the threat of his nuclear arsenal as a way to instill fear, and perhaps to recover some respect for Russia’s power.
Most important, he may see the threat of unleashing part of his stockpile of roughly 2,000 so-called tactical nuclear weapons — lower-yield warheads usable in smaller bombs, short-range missiles or artillery rounds — as a way to extort concessions that he has been unable to win on the battlefield. Some Russian military analysts have suggested exploding a tactical weapon over a remote place like the Black Sea as a demonstration, or perhaps actually using one against a Ukrainian military base.
Andriy Yermak, head of the Office of the President of Ukraine, writes:
The Russians now realize that they are losing the war they started. That’s why they are resorting to annexation and nuclear blackmail.
We know they are not bluffing. But we are not afraid. Nothing can scare us anymore. Ukrainians have seen large cities reduced to ruins. We’ve absorbed many forms of conventional and some forms of unconventional enemy fire. We’ve survived all kinds of torture. We’ve discovered mass graves everywhere the Russians put their boots. For us, this war is an existential fight, and we have no choice but to go on.
Our intelligence agencies assess the threat of Russia’s tactical nuclear-weapons use as “very high.” And Russia’s willingness to make nuclear threats presents a crisis not just for Ukraine, but for every country on Earth. The response to Russia’s nuclear blackmail must be fierce and unequivocal, rejecting the very idea of ?making concessions to a nuclear aggressor. Otherwise, every ambitious dictator will scramble to obtain nuclear weapons, and every responsible nonnuclear nation will seek to acquire nuclear weapons for self-defense. Nonproliferation agreements will be worthless. Nuclear wars, with their millions of casualties, will follow.
https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2022/10/01/in-washington-putins-nucle
ar-threats-stir-growing-alarm/
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Three traits all Trumptards have: fear death, whine about how mean Democrats are to them and follow the leader. 6ix, you showed all traits in a few sentences. That Trumptard psychology is the reason Trumptards struggle to remain in the middle class. Trumptards were born to be followers, whiners, and fearful. Not a pathway to success, 6ix, but you got to be you.
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In Washington, Putin’s nuclear threats stir growing alarm | October 1, 2022
Can't stop talking about the nukes that are never going to come.
You really should see a doctor about all that stress, Second.
You wouldn't want to end up with a heart attack or the Pfizer Smile from all that mud swimming around in your blood.
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Quote:When something "bad" happens, such as Russia cuts exports of natural gas to Europe, it is an opportunity to make money, not to have a heart attack. The price of natural gas for export from Texas went up when Putin did that. See? Profit opportunity provided by Putin!
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Three traits all Trumptards have: fear death, whine about how mean Democrats are to them and follow the leader. 6ix, you showed all traits in a few sentences. That Trumptard psychology is the reason Trumptards struggle to remain in the middle class. Trumptards were born to be followers, whiners, and fearful. Not a pathway to success, 6ix, but you got to be you.
Also Second:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
In Washington, Putin’s nuclear threats stir growing alarm | October 1, 2022
Can't stop talking about the nukes that are never going to come.
You really should see a doctor about all that stress, Second.
You wouldn't want to end up with a heart attack or the Pfizer Smile from all that mud swimming around in your blood.
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If the S&P 500 crashes because of a hurricane or a Russian nuke? Opportunity to buy stocks at a discount. Eventually, the stocks will rise again, assuming you are as optimistic as I am about America, despite Putin's nukes. If Hurricane Ian didn't kill you, it is an opportunity to make money in the bridge, road and home building businesses. Think of all those boats that will have to be replaced. It is a money making opportunity for boat sellers who are NOT having heart attacks.
You have pointed to another weird feature of Trumptard psychology: Trumptards imagine completely understanding what they absolutely do NOT understand in the slightest. That one weird feature kills Trumptards by knocking decades off their lives. If Trumptards smoke, shortening their life, that's fine with me because Trumptards are nuts. "Good riddance to bad rubbish." I don't get emotional every time a Trumptard ruins his life right before my eyes. If there was a way to make money from Trumptards getting emphysema, heart disease and lung cancer caused by smoking that would be great. Come to think of it, the medical establishment in America does make its money that way just as dentists make money from crooked teeth and cavities.
What about if Putin drops nukes? It means Putin is nuts and that Putin will be dying because of the consequence inside his own government. "Good riddance to bad rubbish" is the phrase to describe the death of Putin in the assassination plot set into motion by Putin nuking Ukraine. And don't forget about the profit opportunity when the stock market crashes because of Putin nuking Ukraine. Selling at a low price is only bad for sellers, but not bad for the buyers.
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What about if Putin drops nukes? It means Putin is nuts and that Putin will be dying because of the consequence inside his own government. "Good riddance to bad rubbish" is the phrase to describe the death of Putin in the assassination plot set into motion by Putin nuking Ukraine. And don't forget about the profit opportunity when the stock market crashes because of Putin nuking Ukraine. Selling at a low price is only bad for sellers, but not bad for the buyers.
If Putin's extra, extra, super special operation - now fortified with even more poor Russian bastards - FAILS... what's he left with? I'm not sure about anyone taking him out. I put it at 50-50 Nukes v. Coup. And when I say "nukes" I mean he could just drop one on Kyiv and wait for the drama. His calculus has to be, "they won't do shit!" but I don't think he wants to start an all out war.
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Quote:One possibility is for Russian warships on the Black Sea to be sunk by cruise missiles after a warning that the warships either leave or sink. It could be one warship per day until either all Russian ships have left or sunk. But then Putin may respond by torpedoing a liquid natural gas carrier per day en route from Texas to the EU. When dealing with highly defective people, whether Putin, Trump, or an East Texas Trumptard, the only certainty is they will demonstrate a lack of good-sense and, maybe, be destructive.
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Originally posted by second:
What about if Putin drops nukes? It means Putin is nuts and that Putin will be dying because of the consequence inside his own government. "Good riddance to bad rubbish" is the phrase to describe the death of Putin in the assassination plot set into motion by Putin nuking Ukraine. And don't forget about the profit opportunity when the stock market crashes because of Putin nuking Ukraine. Selling at a low price is only bad for sellers, but not bad for the buyers.
If Putin's extra, extra, super special operation - now fortified with even more poor Russian bastards - FAILS... what's he left with? I'm not sure about anyone taking him out. I put it at 50-50 Nukes v. Coup. And when I say "nukes" I mean he could just drop one on Kyiv and wait for the drama. His calculus has to be, "they won't do shit!" but I don't think he wants to start an all-out war.
Have you seen the TV show Westworld? There are a lot of robots out there masquerading as humans, but you can tell they're not because their programming is ridiculous. If Putin or Trump were discovered to have been built for entertainment & nonstop drama rather than born, it would explain much about them.
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Originally posted by second:
What about if Putin drops nukes? It means Putin is nuts and that Putin will be dying because of the consequence inside his own government. "Good riddance to bad rubbish" is the phrase to describe the death of Putin in the assassination plot set into motion by Putin nuking Ukraine. And don't forget about the profit opportunity when the stock market crashes because of Putin nuking Ukraine. Selling at a low price is only bad for sellers, but not bad for the buyers.
If Putin's extra, extra, super special operation - now fortified with even more poor Russian bastards - FAILS... what's he left with? I'm not sure about anyone taking him out. I put it at 50-50 Nukes v. Coup. And when I say "nukes" I mean he could just drop one on Kyiv and wait for the drama. His calculus has to be, "they won't do shit!" but I don't think he wants to start an all out war.
The Ukrainian army is too dispersed for a tactical nuke to have much of an effect on the Ukrainian army tactically. But if Putin does use one watch NATO destroy Russia’s Black Sea fleet as well as any remnants of the Russian army within Ukraine; all of Ukraine. And you won’t have to wait for it. It’ll be quick and decisive.
NATO realizes China is watching. That North Korea and other dictators will be watching. NATO already knows it will have to be done.
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Retired Gen. David Petraeus predicted Sunday that the U.S., along with NATO allies, would “take out” Russian forces if Russian President Vladimir Putin decided to use nuclear weapons in his war against neighboring Ukraine.
During an appearance on ABC’s “This Week,” Petraeus told co-anchor Jonathan Karl that western powers have to take Russia’s nuclear weapons threats seriously, noting National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan’s recent remarks that US officials have warned the Moscow of “catastrophic consequences” if the Kremlin deploys nuclear weapons.
“And what would happen?” Karl asked.
“Well, again, I have deliberately not talked to Jake about this. I mean, just to give you a hypothetical, we would respond by leading a NATO, a collective effort, that would take out every Russian conventional force that we can see and identify on the battlefield in Ukraine and also in Crimea and every ship in the Black Sea,” Petraeus replied.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/petraeus-predicts-us-would-lea
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Look what I found. This is what I've been hearing for the past week or two. This seems to be the consensus amongst those in the know.
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Oh good. All three of you were able to find time to meet up and circle jerk each other on this fine Sunday afternoon.
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Quote:6ix, if you didn't think like other Trumptards, you won't have their problems. I know you will claim you don't have problems, but you do.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh good. All three of you were able to find time to meet up and circle jerk each other on this fine Sunday afternoon.
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Quote:6ix, there is something seriously wrong with Russians: The first time the Russian soldiers caught him, they tossed him bound and blindfolded into a trench covered with wooden boards for days on end. Then they beat him, over and over: Legs, arms, a hammer to the knees, all accompanied by furious diatribes against Ukraine. Before they let him go, they took away his passport and Ukrainian military ID — all he had to prove his existence — and made sure he knew exactly how worthless his life was. “No one needs you,” the commander taunted. “We can shoot you any time, bury you a half-meter underground and that’s it.”
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh good. All three of you were able to find time to meet up and circle jerk each other on this fine Sunday afternoon.
10 torture sites in 1 town: Russia sowed pain, fear in Izium
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-business-treatment-of-prison
ers-government-and-politics-aec9afe8d6631795ae9f9478a4ede4cc
So, why are Russians, when you measure GDP per capita, poor compared to Finns in the country next door? It could well be because Russians' thinking leads them to torture prisoners. For a fact, the same brains make economic and military decisions so it is likely that malfunctioning brains arrive at inadequate decisions on all things. You might not be aware, but Finland did not waste time, money, or talent on building nuclear weapons while Russia and its protege nation North Korea lavishly squandered on nukes, making both countries poorer. Fools make bad decisions and Russians and North Koreans have made many bad decisions to arrive at where they are today.
Finland vs Russia: Economic Indicators Comparison
https://georank.org/economy/finland/russia
North Korea vs South Korea: Economic Indicators Comparison
https://georank.org/economy/north-korea/south-korea
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