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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Thursday, July 28, 2022 9:15 PM

Let me be clear. I don't give one single shit about Ukraine or Russia's economy.

Nobody else does either.

November is coming.



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Thursday, July 28, 2022 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Let me be clear. I don't give one single shit about Ukraine or Russia's economy.

Nobody else does either.

November is coming.

6ix, I know where you get ideas even if you think it is your idea. Trump used the phrase America First for his policy in a recent speech. Before Trump there was the America First Committee, a non-interventionist pressure group against U.S. entry into World War II. Thanks to the kind of Congressmen from 1940 who only think of America First, Germany conquered most of Europe and almost conquered Russia. FDR saved Russia, and the UK, despite the objections against helping from certain Congressmen who happen to be from the very same states that today support Trump. The Russians say, today, that help from Lend-Lease was of no importance in defeating Hitler, but the Russians are lying, or stupid, or both. I think both is the provable answer if you compare what Russia has accomplished in the last 77 years to what South Korea has accomplished. Russia and S. Korea have the same size economy. Actually, Russia is smaller! South Korea could wipe Russia off the face of the Earth if South Korea was as obnoxious as North Korea. North Korea only exists because Russian troops grabbed the north half of Korea in 1945, the same thing as Russia is doing to Ukraine in 2022, grabbing half of it to create new nations friendly to Russia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease

See what a crap hole Russia is in the Country comparison Russia vs South Korea
https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/russia/south-korea

Donald Trump speaks at America First Agenda Summit in Washington, DC



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Friday, July 29, 2022 12:32 AM

SECOND: RUSSIA saved Europe from the Nazis. My in-laws were there. They saw how Germans ran from the eastern front.
Stop lying.

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Friday, July 29, 2022 1:11 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND: RUSSIA saved Europe from the Nazis. My in-laws were there. They saw how Germans ran from the eastern front.
Stop lying.

In 1945, the USA was seriously thinking about nuking Moscow, nukes built for Berlin. Signym, it's you that is lying, in your worthlessness.

Americans and Brits could have ground Germany into hamburger without nukes and without any help from the Russians who mainly died for their country:

27 million dead Russians. <-- This is what gross incompetence looks like, Signym
7 million German dead.
419,400 American dead. <-- This is what competence achieves, fighting in the Pacific and Europe.
450,900 UK dead.

Russians have threatened, for the one thousandth time, to nuke the world this week because they are aware they almost got nuked in 1945 and should have been, considering how little Russia has accomplished in the last 77 years, almost as little as North Korea. North Korea also threatened to nuke the world, this week. N. Korea and Russia are peas in the pod, but then North Korea would not even exist without Russia invading in 1945, stealing the land after Japan abandoned Korea because Japanese Army couldn't be resupplied since the Americans destroyed the supplies.

North Korea's Kim Jong Un threatens to use nuclear weapons
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kim-jong-un-threatens-to-use-nukes-amid-t
ensions-with-us-south-korea
/

WWII causalities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Total_deaths_by_
country


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Friday, July 29, 2022 1:33 AM


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND: RUSSIA saved Europe from the Nazis. My in-laws were there. They saw how Germans ran from the eastern front.
Stop lying.

SECOND: In 1945, the USA was seriously thinking about nuking Moscow, nukes built for Berlin.



SIGNY: Because THEY recognized, even if you don't, that Russia was a major military power, and a threat to the western Allied forces. One that they might not be able to stop.

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SECOND: Signym, it's you that is lying, in your worthlessness.
Fuck you, SECOND. Even that throwaway show, Hogan's Heroes, knew that Germans feared the eastern front. ANY historian has said that RUSSIA won the European war, not the USA. Untwist your brain and get back into reality.

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SECOND Americans and Brits could have ground Germany into hamburger without nukes and without any help from the Russians who mainly died for their country:
NO, they couldn't. The RUSSIANS had built up their war industry by the end of WWII (after moving it past the Urals) and were advancing - literally as fast as tanks could move, and the Germans were retreating literally as fast as they could run - along a 1500-mile front. The western "Allies" (remember, the Allied forces consisted of RUSSIA, USA, and Britain) were only fighting on 200-mile front. If it was a race between who would reach Berlin first- Russia or USA/UK - Russia won. It was Russia that rolled into Berlin, not the USA. That makes them the winner.

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SECOND: 27 million dead Russians. <-- This is what gross incompetence looks like, Signym
NO, that is what Germans waging a genocidal war ON RUSSIAN SOIL, looks like.

Everyone with two neurons to rub together knows that the USA escaped a massive death toll and serious damage in WWII simply because the war was not fought on USA soil. It's called "being protected on two sides by massive oceans".

Jeez, your brain is fucked-up.
Go read some history and straighten yourself out.

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Friday, July 29, 2022 2:00 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Jeez, your brain is fucked-up.
Go read some history and straighten yourself out.

Don't plan a war because you understand nothing correctly, Signym. You don't even recall that Finland beat Russia, twice. Then Finland besieged Leningrad. Then Finland beat the Nazis. Finland knows how to fight a war and win without millions of causalities. Russians don't have a clue how to fight without sacrificing themselves for no gain. As Russians are doing in 2022 in Ukraine.

After WWII, Finland grew to be rich and happy. Russia? Not so rich, not so happy, because there is something inherently wrong with Russians. Russians, compared to the Finns, are stupid.

GDP per capita Russia 2021 $12,198 <-- Gross incompetence, Signym
GDP per capita Finland 2021 $54,060
https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/russia/finland

Finland named world's happiest country for fifth straight year. <-- This is what competence looks like, Signym
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/finland-worlds-happiest-country-fifth-str
aight-year-afghanistan-last
/

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Friday, July 29, 2022 2:20 AM

Signym, if the Russians had NOT gotten their factories moved out of the range of the German Army, there would have been 108 million dead Russians, not 27 million. If America had moved faster on the A-bomb, it would have been Berlin and Hitler, not Hiroshima and children, who were the first to die from A-bombs. And if America had A-bombed Germany, Russia would have been next, unless it retreated from Europe.

It took just 27 months to build the first A-bomb. In Aug. 2, 1939, Einstein signed a letter addressed to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, warning that the Nazis might be developing nuclear weapons. Too bad FDR didn't get the Manhattan Project moving sooner. WWII could have ended 28 to 36 months after Aug. 2, 1939. At the 36 month mark, in Aug 1942, Russia was losing against Germany. The Battle of Stalingrad (August 1942 – February 1943) was a stupid, unnecessary battle because of Hitler's ego. The symbolism of capturing the city that bore the Soviet leader’s name evidently weighed in Hitler’s decision to divert forces en route to Baku to the siege of Stalingrad.
https://soviethistory.msu.edu/1943-2/the-nazi-tide-stops/

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND: RUSSIA saved Europe from the Nazis. My in-laws were there. They saw how Germans ran from the eastern front.
Stop lying.

SECOND: In 1945, the USA was seriously thinking about nuking Moscow, nukes built for Berlin.



SIGNY: Because THEY recognized, even if you don't, that Russia was a major military power, and a threat to the western Allied forces. One that they might not be able to stop.

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SECOND: Signym, it's you that is lying, in your worthlessness.
Fuck you, SECOND. Even that throwaway show, Hogan's Heroes, knew that Germans feared the eastern front. ANY historian has said that RUSSIA won the European war, not the USA. Untwist your brain and get back into reality.

Quote:

SECOND Americans and Brits could have ground Germany into hamburger without nukes and without any help from the Russians who mainly died for their country:
NO, they couldn't. The RUSSIANS had built up their war industry by the end of WWII (after moving it past the Urals) and were advancing - literally as fast as tanks could move, and the Germans were retreating literally as fast as they could run - along a 1500-mile front. The western "Allies" (remember, the Allied forces consisted of RUSSIA, USA, and Britain) were only fighting on 200-mile front. If it was a race between who would reach Berlin first- Russia or USA/UK - Russia won. It was Russia that rolled into Berlin, not the USA. That makes them the winner.

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SECOND: 27 million dead Russians. <-- This is what gross incompetence looks like, Signym
NO, that is what Germans waging a genocidal war ON RUSSIAN SOIL, looks like.

Everyone with two neurons to rub together knows that the USA escaped a massive death toll and serious damage in WWII simply because the war was not fought on USA soil. It's called "being protected on two sides by massive oceans".

Jeez, your brain is fucked-up.
Go read some history and straighten yourself out.

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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake




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Friday, July 29, 2022 3:19 AM

Un- fuck your brain, SECOND. You'll feel - and think- a lot better.
You might even stop lying! Who knows!?

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Friday, July 29, 2022 4:13 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Un- fuck your brain, SECOND. You'll feel - and think- a lot better.
You might even stop lying! Who knows!?

You already predicted Russia would conquer Ukraine. Will it be soon, I hope? Because what actually is happening is Russia destroying a $1 trillion worth of Ukrainian property. It would have been so much better for Russia if it had stayed home and gone about its business of building its own country, rather than either stealing somebody's land or destroying what Russia can't steal.

Signym, don't you dare repeat the lie that Russia had to attack Ukraine before NATO used Ukraine to attack Russia. NATO doesn't need Ukrainian territory to launch an attack on Russia. NATO already has five nations on Russia's border. A sixth nation will not make a difference. But there is a nation that can make a difference: Finland will be in NATO and on Russia's border, and has beaten Russia to death in several wars and during the Siege of Leningrad. Does Russia need a therapeutic beating by Finland?

Russians need a reminder from the Finns that Russians are best at dying for their country, being better at that than anybody else in the world.

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/115204.htm

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Friday, July 29, 2022 5:29 AM

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Originally posted by second:
It would have been so much better for Russia if it had stayed home and gone about its business of building its own country, rather than either stealing somebody's land or destroying what Russia can't steal.



That's never been what it is about, stupid.

Never.

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