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Monday, June 27, 2022 4:13 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Quit talking about your make believe family and your made up life.

Nobody cares.

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You convinced me years ago that you are a meat robot, same as the other Trump voters I see careening around Texas, a meat version of a Roomba vacuum robot. An electronic robot has no consciousness. The meat robots can make words, pretending to have experiences and feelings, but I am not convinced there is a soul inside the animated corpses of Trump voters by what I see those machines do with their time or what the meat machines post on the internet. Fortunately for the Republican party, most Democrats have not yet seen Trump voters for what they are: soulless machines going through the motions, pretending to be real. If Democrats ever figure you machines out for how useless you are, they will pull your charging plug out the wall. Having Trumptards around buzzing and vacuuming really doesn't save any labor. You're always underfoot and in the way, like a Roomba.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, June 27, 2022 4:14 PM

Here’s the thing, guys.

It doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter when life begins.

It doesn't matter whether a fetus is a human being or not.

That entire argument is a red herring, a distraction, a subjective and unwinnable argument that could not matter less.

It doesn't matter whether we re talking about a fertilized egg. or a fetus, or a baby, or a five year old. or a Nobel Prize winning paediatric oncologist.

NOBODY has the right to use your body, against your will, even to save their life, or the life of another person.

That’s it.

That’s the argument.

You cannot be forced to donate blood, or marrow, or organs even though thousands die every year on waiting lists.

They cannot even harvest your organs after your death without your explicit written, pre-mortem permission.

Denying women the right to abortion means we have less bodily autonomy than a corpse.

https://m.facebook.com/InsufferableIntolerance/photos/a.26892878326824
7/1419362368224877
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, June 27, 2022 6:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Quit talking about your make believe family and your made up life.

Nobody cares.

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Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

You convinced me years ago that you are a meat robot, same as the other Trump voters I see careening around Texas, a meat version of a Roomba vacuum robot. An electronic robot has no consciousness. The meat robots can make words, pretending to have experiences and feelings, but I am not convinced there is a soul inside the animated corpses of Trump voters by what I see those machines do with their time or what the meat machines post on the internet. Fortunately for the Republican party, most Democrats have not yet seen Trump voters for what they are: soulless machines going through the motions, pretending to be real. If Democrats ever figure you machines out for how useless you are, they will pull your charging plug out the wall. Having Trumptards around buzzing and vacuuming really doesn't save any labor. You're always underfoot and in the way, like a Roomba.




Funny that you of all people, are calling me a Roomba now, since that was one of my nicknames for your sockpuppet.

I care not about the opinions of sub-humans.

You are less than dogshit on my shoe.

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Monday, June 27, 2022 6:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Here’s the thing, guys.

It doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter when life begins.

It doesn't matter whether a fetus is a human being or not.

That entire argument is a red herring, a distraction, a subjective and unwinnable argument that could not matter less.

It doesn't matter whether we re talking about a fertilized egg. or a fetus, or a baby, or a five year old. or a Nobel Prize winning paediatric oncologist.

NOBODY has the right to use your body, against your will, even to save their life, or the life of another person.

That’s it.

That’s the argument.

You cannot be forced to donate blood, or marrow, or organs even though thousands die every year on waiting lists.

They cannot even harvest your organs after your death without your explicit written, pre-mortem permission.

Denying women the right to abortion means we have less bodily autonomy than a corpse.

https://m.facebook.com/InsufferableIntolerance/photos/a.26892878326824
7/1419362368224877
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two





You have plenty of autonomy, lady.

What comes out of it is a consequence of what you stick in it.

All your facebook post shows is what a sociopathic psycho you are.

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Tuesday, June 28, 2022 4:02 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

All your facebook post shows is what a sociopathic psycho you are.

Why Did Republicans Become So Extreme?

It’s all about resentment of what makes America great.

Many political analysts have spent years warning that the G.O.P. was becoming an extremist, anti-democratic party.

Long before Republicans nominated Donald Trump for president, let alone before Trump refused to acknowledge electoral defeat, the congressional scholars Thomas Mann and Norman Ornstein declared that the party had become “an insurgent outlier” that rejected “facts, evidence and science” and didn’t accept the legitimacy of political opposition.

In 2019 an international survey of experts rated parties around the world on their commitment to basic democratic principles and minority rights. The G.O.P., it turns out, looks nothing like center-right parties in other Western countries. What it resembles, instead, are authoritarian parties like Hungary’s Fidesz or Turkey’s A.K.P.

Such analyses have frequently been dismissed as over the top and alarmist. Even now, with Republicans expressing open admiration for Viktor Orban’s one-party rule, I encounter people insisting that the G.O.P. isn’t comparable to Fidesz. (Why not? Republicans have been gerrymandering state legislatures to lock in control no matter how badly they lose the popular vote, which is right out of Orban’s playbook.) Yet as Edward Luce of The Financial Times recently pointed out, “at every juncture over last 20 years the America ‘alarmists’ have been right.”

And over the past few days we’ve received even more reminders of just how extreme Republicans have become. The Jan. 6 hearings have been establishing, in damning detail, that the attack on the Capitol was part of a broader scheme to overturn the election, directed from the top. A Republican-stuffed Supreme Court has been handing down nakedly partisan rulings on abortion and gun control. And there may be more shocks to come — keep your eyes on what the court is likely to do to the government’s ability to protect the environment.

The question that has been bothering me — aside from the question of whether American democracy will survive — is why. Where is this extremism coming from?

Comparisons with the rise of fascism in Europe between the wars are inevitable but not all that helpful. For one thing, bad as he was, Trump wasn’t another Hitler or even another Mussolini. True, Republicans like Marco Rubio routinely call Democrats — who are basically standard social democrats — Marxists, and it’s tempting to match their hyperbole. The reality, however, is bad enough to not need exaggeration.

And there’s another problem with comparisons to the rise of fascism. Right-wing extremism in interwar Europe arose from the rubble of national catastrophes: defeat in World War I — or, in the case of Italy, Pyrrhic victory that felt like defeat; hyperinflation; depression.

Nothing like that has happened here. Yes, we had a severe financial crisis in 2008, followed by a sluggish recovery. Yes, we’ve been seeing regional economic divergence, with some ugly consequences — unemployment, social decline, even suicides and addiction — in the regions left behind. But America has been through much worse in the past, without seeing one of its major parties turn its back on democracy.

Also, the Republican turn toward extremism began during the 1990s. Many people, I believe, have forgotten the political craziness of the Clinton years — the witch hunts and wild conspiracy theories (Hillary murdered Vince Foster!), the attempts to blackmail Bill Clinton into policy concessions by shutting down the government, and more. And all of this was happening during what were widely regarded as good years, with most Americans believing that the country was on the right track.

It’s a puzzle. I’ve been spending a lot of time lately looking for historical precursors — cases in which right-wing extremism rose even in the face of peace and prosperity. And I think I’ve found one:

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Tuesday, June 28, 2022 4:06 PM

The unborn, as pointed out by Methodist Pastor David Barnhart:

'"The unborn" are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don't resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don't ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don't bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. It's almost as if, by being born, they have died to you. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for "the unborn."'

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/10357009-the-unborn-are-a-convenient-
group-of-people-to-advocate



Despite Their Flaws, Democrats Are The Last, Best Hope Against Fascism

If you doubt whether the Democrat Party is worth supporting, take 79 seconds to watch this.

You can start at the 59-second mark . . . “It was Winston Churchill who said . . .” and quit at 2:18 “. . . in the privacy of your own bedroom.”

Mika Brzezinski weighs in on the impact of the Supreme Court's ruling on Roe v. Wade and why Democrats are the last, best hope against 'an extreme, autocratic, anti-women, anti-gay, anti-contraception, anti-freedom collection of fascists who dominate the Trump wing of today's GOP.'



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, June 28, 2022 9:33 PM

Democrats = Fascism.

I'm very much looking forward to the Death of the Democratic Party.

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Wednesday, June 29, 2022 7:10 AM

Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.) says she is “tired” of the long-standing separation between church and state in the U.S., adding that she believes “the church is supposed to direct the government.”

In a Sunday speech at the Cornerstone Christian Center in Basalt, Colo., ahead of her primary election on Tuesday, Boebert argued that “the government is not supposed to direct the church,” falsely claiming that dividing religion from the system of government was not what the Founding Fathers intended.

“I’m tired of this separation of church and state junk — that’s not in the Constitution. It was in a stinking letter and it means nothing like they say it does,” Boebert said, earning a round of applause from the audience.

The concept of a separation between church and state is derived from the establishment clause in the Bill of Rights, which says, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.”

Roger Williams, who founded Rhode Island, was the first to decipher the clause as “a wall or hedge of separation” between the “wilderness of the world” and “the garden of the church.”

In 1802, then-President Thomas Jefferson penned a letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in Connecticut, in which he wrote the American public had built “a wall of separation between Church and State.”

States have long adhered to the principle since Jefferson’s letter. The Supreme Court applied the clause to states with the 14th Amendment and has used the doctrine to uphold such a wall.

However, the current high court, which has a conservative majority, has recently ruled increasingly in support of religion in public spaces.

The Supreme Court this month 1) struck down a Maine policy that prohibited religious schools from receiving taxpayer-funded tuition aid and 2) ruled in favor of a football coach in Washington state who prayed at the 50-yard line after public school games.

Conservative justices also 3) ruled in May that the city of Boston violated the Constitution by declining a request from a religious organization to fly its flag at city hall.

4) This month the Republican Catholics on the Supreme Court ruled against abortion, as does the Catholic Church.

After the Maine ruling, liberal Justice Sonia Sotomayor said the court “continues to dismantle the wall of separation between church and state that the Framers fought to build.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3540071-boebert-says-she-is-tired-o
f-separation-between-church-and-state-the-church-is-supposed-to-direct-the-government
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, June 29, 2022 8:22 AM

Democrats are dying.



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Thursday, June 30, 2022 8:45 AM

Supreme Court finds that the Civil War was wrongly decided, reinstates the Confederacy.

Other rulings expected to come soon:

Federal payments for health care (Medicare, Medicaid) will be limited to treatments available when the constitution was written.

Schools that receive government subsidies are prohibited from teaching that the earth is a sphere, or that the earth is older than 6,000 years.

The Pope has been found by Republican Catholic Supreme Court justices to have veto power over proposed legislation.

The authors of our constitution were divinely inspired, and so we have no rights that people in 1783 would not recognize or understand.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/6/25/2106272/-Supreme-Court-find
s-that-the-Civil-War-was-wrongly-decided-reinstates-the-Confederacy


There is also a survey you can take at the above URL:

Which eighteenth century belief are you most excited about re-adopting?

1) Women who express opinions are possessed by Satan and should be disciplined by their fathers or their husbands.

2) Black people are not fully human beings and therefore have no human rights.

3) Political disputes (among men) are best settled by duels.

4) Treaties with Native Americans shall last forever, or until a group of white men decide they don't.

5) People who speak English are inherently smarter than those who don't, obviously.

#3, Dueling, received the most votes. I would love to see Democrats bringing pistols into the Senate to solve disputes the old-fashion way. I can train any Senator to make every bullet a kill shot. Or, if the Democratic Senator prefers, I shall be a substitute for those who don't want to get blood on themselves. I'm willing to risk death for my country, something that no Senators now serving have ever risked.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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