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Tuesday, June 14, 2022 6:15 PM

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Originally posted by second:
History Says Democracy Will Die if Democrats Don’t Try “Going Big”



No. But Democrats are about to die.



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Tuesday, June 14, 2022 6:58 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
History Says Democracy Will Die if Democrats Don’t Try “Going Big”



No. But Democrats are about to die.

My idea of "Going Big" is not your idea, 6ix, of what those words mean. A box of bullets (20 to 50 rounds in a box depending on caliber ) fired in the Senate would have prevented the Civil War by assassinating the future leaders of the Rebellion: On January 9, 1861, Mississippi became the second state to secede. This action prompted Senator Jefferson Davis (the future Confederate President) to address the Senate on January 10, imploring his colleagues to allow for peaceful secession of the Southern states. (Killing Davis during that speech would have avoided a war.) On January 21 five senators from Florida, Alabama, and Mississippi, led by Davis, bade farewell to the Senate. The secession of Southern states and the withdrawal of their elected representatives forced an unprecedented constitutional crisis in Congress.

More at https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/expulsion_cases/Ci
vilWar_Expulsion.htm


Save one bullet for Robert E Lee. He wasn't a Senator, but he did contribute significantly to the Rebellion. Republicans will hate the 2nd Amendment when they discover that it is perfectly Constitutional to kill them. And as a special bonus, the 5th Amendment protects the killers who are innocent until proven guilty.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, June 20, 2022 5:28 PM

Two things the Texas Republican Party did this weekend by passing their Party Platform:

Line 126: “We support repeal of the 16th Amendment (Federal Income Tax)”

Line 201: “Texas retains the right to secede from the United States, and the Texas Legislature should be called upon to pass a referendum consistent thereto.”

https://texasgop.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/6-Permanent-Platform-C
ommittee-FINAL-REPORT-6-16-2022.pdf


There is much more, but those two are the biggest events that Republicans want. They want the right to not pay taxes and the right to leave the Union. They are calling for a new Civil War.

One bright spot was that Republicans are not demanding the repeal of the 13th Amendment (which banned slavery) , but the 14th (which made slaves into citizens) is repealed, plus the repeal of the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

The 13th Amendment nearly preserved slavery — with Lincoln’s support. In a last-ditch effort to prevent Southern states from seceding on the eve of Abraham Lincoln’s presidential inauguration in 1861, Congress passed a constitutional amendment that would have prevented Congress from abolishing slavery in states where it already existed. Had three-quarters of states ratified this proposal, it would have become the 13th Amendment to the Constitution — which we know today as the amendment that banned slavery after the war.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-13th-amendment-nearly-preserved-
slavery-with-lincoln-s-support/ar-AAYDt0X


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, June 20, 2022 6:09 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Two things the Texas Republican Party did this weekend by passing their Party Platform:

Line 126: “We support repeal of the 16th Amendment (Federal Income Tax)”

Line 201: “Texas retains the right to secede from the United States, and the Texas Legislature should be called upon to pass a referendum consistent thereto.”

https://texasgop.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/6-Permanent-Platform-C
ommittee-FINAL-REPORT-6-16-2022.pdf


There is much more, but those two are the biggest events that Republicans want. They want the right to not pay taxes and the right to leave the Union. They are calling for a new Civil War.

One bright spot was that Republicans are not demanding the repeal of the 13th Amendment (which banned slavery) , but the 14th (which made slaves into citizens) is repealed, plus the repeal of the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

The 13th Amendment nearly preserved slavery — with Lincoln’s support. In a last-ditch effort to prevent Southern states from seceding on the eve of Abraham Lincoln’s presidential inauguration in 1861, Congress passed a constitutional amendment that would have prevented Congress from abolishing slavery in states where it already existed. Had three-quarters of states ratified this proposal, it would have become the 13th Amendment to the Constitution — which we know today as the amendment that banned slavery after the war.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-13th-amendment-nearly-preserved-
slavery-with-lincoln-s-support/ar-AAYDt0X


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Nancy Pelosi wants that to happen.

I don't want that to happen.

It's the only way Democrats can win in the future since California never follows through with its threats of leaving the Union and taking it's 55 electoral votes with it.

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Tuesday, June 21, 2022 6:19 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Nancy Pelosi wants that to happen.

I don't want that to happen.

It's the only way Democrats can win in the future since California never follows through with its threats of leaving the Union and taking it's 55 electoral votes with it.

What was fascinating was that Lincoln supported giving the Confederacy everything it wanted with HIS Constitutional amendment allowing slavery forever and ever. But everything wasn't enough for the Confederates. They wanted all future states to be slave states. Read about it here, where the slavery forever amendment actually did pass the Senate, but the Confederates States won't vote for it because they had already left the Union:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-13th-amendment-nearly-preserved-
slavery-with-lincoln-s-support/ar-AAYDt0X


Think about it. If the Confederates States had not left the Union, but instead had ratified Lincoln's amendment to the Constitution, there would still be slavery in America in 2022 in all states that were slave states in 1860. It is funny how the Confederates wouldn't accept half the United States being slave states. All states had to be slave states was the only acceptable "compromise."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, June 21, 2022 8:02 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Nancy Pelosi wants that to happen.

I don't want that to happen.

It's the only way Democrats can win in the future since California never follows through with its threats of leaving the Union and taking it's 55 electoral votes with it.

What was fascinating was that Lincoln supported giving the Confederacy everything it wanted with HIS Constitutional amendment allowing slavery forever and ever. But everything wasn't enough for the Confederates. They wanted all future states to be slave states. Read about it here, where the slavery forever amendment actually did pass the Senate, but the Confederates States won't vote for it because they had already left the Union:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-13th-amendment-nearly-preserved-
slavery-with-lincoln-s-support/ar-AAYDt0X


Think about it. If the Confederates States had not left the Union, but instead had ratified Lincoln's amendment to the Constitution, there would still be slavery in America in 2022 in all states that were slave states in 1860. It is funny how the Confederates wouldn't accept half the United States being slave states. All states had to be slave states was the only acceptable "compromise."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Even funnier that they were all Democrats.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Racist.




NEWSWEEK: The Democrats Are Choosing White Liberals Over Black and Hispanic Americans. And We Know It

https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-are-choosing-white-liberals-over-bl
ack-hispanic-americans-we-know-it-opinion-1716940


No shit, Mr. Morrow.

But I'm mighty glad to see that the wool isn't pulled over your eyes.


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Doubling down on wokeism, alienating half of the country, being poor stewards of the economy and choosing white liberals over Blacks and Hispanics has led to a confluence of circumstances that could lead to Republican dominance for a generation.


Well now you're just reading like my post-sobriety post history in the RWED.



SPOILER ALERT: Ted and Second won't want to read Darvio Morrow's opinions in Newsweek because Darvio Morrow is a black man and Ted and Second are racists.



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Tuesday, June 21, 2022 4:30 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Even funnier that they were all Democrats.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Racist.

Even funnier, you might not be aware of it, but words such as Democrat and Democratic are recycled all over the world for political reasons, even in North Korea (Democratic People's Republic of Korea). I have never known a Republican who knew what that meant. It is kind of a angry poor white trash characteristic to not know that the Democrats of the Confederacy and the Democrats of North Korea aren't the Democrats of the USA.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, June 21, 2022 5:02 PM

Funniest of all: The Democrats of FDR's day are not the dems of today, and the Republicans of the 70s are not the Republicans of today. But SECOND has not kept up with the times. He's still stuck in 1975. Or 1860, for that matter.

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Tuesday, June 21, 2022 6:15 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Even funnier that they were all Democrats.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Racist.

Even funnier, you might not be aware of it, but words such as Democrat and Democratic are recycled all over the world for political reasons, even in North Korea (Democratic People's Republic of Korea). I have never known a Republican who knew what that meant. It is kind of a angry poor white trash characteristic to not know that the Democrats of the Confederacy and the Democrats of North Korea aren't the Democrats of the USA.



I guess they fooled Hillary Clinton too. Yanno... Since you could never find her without Senator Byrd's dick in her mouth.

I wonder if she liked the taste of his dick better with his hood on or off.



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Friday, June 24, 2022 4:40 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Funniest of all: The Democrats of FDR's day are not the dems of today, and the Republicans of the 70s are not the Republicans of today. But SECOND has not kept up with the times. He's still stuck in 1975. Or 1860, for that matter.

Names change, Signym, but people keep sorting themselves into the same old groups. I know people in 2022 who would be a good fit with the Confederates, for example, despite there being no Confederacy. Or who would be Abolitionists, despite there being no slaves. Or, the biggest group by far, who in 2022 would object to doing anything about slavery, either pro or con, because the price of gasoline is too high. It's always something external with weaklings. It's never their personal weakness.

Chapter 10, Believe In Truth, from On Tyranny (2017), by Timothy Snyder

You submit to tyranny when you renounce the difference between what you want to hear and what is actually the case. This renunciation of reality can feel natural and pleasant, but the result is your demise as an individual—and thus the collapse of any political system that depends upon individualism. As observers of totalitarianism such as Victor Klemperer noticed, truth dies in four modes, all of which we have just witnessed.

The first mode is the open hostility to verifiable reality, which takes the form of presenting inventions and lies as if they were facts. The president does this at a high rate and at a fast pace. One attempt during the 2016 campaign to track his utterances found that 78 percent of his factual claims were false. This proportion is so high that it makes the correct assertions seem like unintended oversights on the path toward total fiction. Demeaning the world as it is begins the creation of a fictional counterworld.

The second mode is shamanistic incantation. As Klemperer noted, the fascist style depends upon “endless repetition,” designed to make the fictional plausible and the criminal desirable. The systematic use of nicknames such as “Lyin’ Ted” and “Crooked Hillary” displaced certain character traits that might more appropriately have been affixed to the president himself. Yet through blunt repetition over Twitter, our president managed the transformation of individuals into stereotypes that people then spoke aloud. At rallies, the repeated chants of “Build that wall” and “Lock her up” did not describe anything that the president had specific plans to do, but their very grandiosity established a connection between him and his audience.

The next mode is magical thinking, or the open embrace of contradiction. The president’s campaign involved the promises of cutting taxes for everyone, eliminating the national debt, and increasing spending on both social policy and national defense. These promises mutually contradict. It is as if a farmer said he were taking an egg from the henhouse, boiling it whole and serving it to his wife, and also poaching it and serving it to his children, and then returning it to the hen unbroken, and then watching as the chick hatches.

Accepting untruth of this radical kind requires a blatant abandonment of reason. Klemperer’s descriptions of losing friends in Germany in 1933 over the issue of magical thinking ring eerily true today. One of his former students implored him to “abandon yourself to your feelings, and you must always focus on the Führer’s greatness, rather than on the discomfort you are feeling at present.” Twelve years later, after all the atrocities, and at the end of a war that Germany had clearly lost, an amputated soldier told Klemperer that Hitler “has never lied yet. I believe in Hitler.”

The final mode is misplaced faith. It involves the sort of self-deifying claims the president made when he said that “I alone can solve it” or “I am your voice.” When faith descends from heaven to earth in this way, no room remains for the small truths of our individual discernment and experience. What terrified Klemperer was the way that this transition seemed permanent. Once truth had b

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