Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
POSTED BY: captaincrunch
UPDATED: Sunday, September 6, 2026 21:09
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THUGR is too stupid to notice that ZH links IT'S sources, or too lazy to follow them up. But I have never promoted ZH as THE place to get news. It's 90pct garbage, and I ignore most of it. It is, however, convenient, if you don't mind filtering out the bull.
AFA other sources
Military Summary
You can backtrack to the main channel from there
The Duran
Again, backtrack to the main channel
Patrick Lancaster
Backtrack
An American reporting from the Russian side of the front in Ukraine
Anything by Scott Ritter (Marine) or Larry Johnson (CIA)
The Saker
https://thesaker.is/
A pro-Russian Swiss expat military analyst
Moon of Alabama
https://www.moonofalabama.org/
A German blogger with military background
I don't look at all of these sites all of the time. They don't all agree with each other but then, I don't expect them to.
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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Quote:Unless liars take care to coordinate with each other, the liars won't agree with each other. You see the same dynamic on science fiction shows on different networks. There is no reason that events on a network show are referenced on a different network. "They don't all agree with each other but then, I don't expect them to." - Signym
Originally posted by SignyM:
I don't look at all of these sites all of the time. They don't all agree with each other but then, I don't expect them to.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
THUGR is too stupid to notice that ZH links IT'S sources, or too lazy to follow them up.
I have from time to time, and it's more of the same BS. Not unlike Truth Social - more MAGA grifters grifting MAGAs. ZH working their grift selling bs and sh*t.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
But I have never promoted ZH as THE place to get news.
It is THE most popular source for you.
Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
It's 90pct garbage, and I ignore most of it. It is, however, convenient, if you don't mind filtering out the bull.
So, much, much worse than cnn - check.
AFA other sources
Military Summary - almost unwatchable.
The Duran
"some Biden officials..." which ones? Unsourced, youtube viewer fodder. And big whoop if true! Of course some Biden officials might not like Biden's choices on Ukraine. Thank god we don't have a dictator like Russia. "Agree or die."
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Originally posted by SignyM:
I don't look at all of these sites all of the time. They don't all agree with each other but then, I don't expect them to.
Accurate reporting should reflect the same truths, whichever "side" they work for (or we think they do).
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I do hope you're taking the news analysis from these two mindless goons and giving it the consideration they deserve.
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Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus
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Reflecting a shockingly barbaric and old-fashioned wartime strategy, Russian forces have pummeled Ukrainian cities and towns with a barrage of rockets and other munitions, most of which can be considered relatively crude relics of the Cold War, and many of which have been banned widely under international treaties, according to a New York Times analysis.
The attacks have made repeated and widespread use of weapons that kill, maim and destroy indiscriminately — a potential violation of international humanitarian law. These strikes have left civilians — including children — dead and injured, and they have left critical infrastructure, like schools and homes, a shambles.
The Times examined more than 1,000 pictures taken by its own photojournalists and wire-service photographers working on the ground in Ukraine, as well as visual evidence presented by Ukrainian government and military agencies. Times journalists identified and categorized more than 450 instances in which weapons or groups of weapons were found in Ukraine. All told, there were more than 2,000 identifiable munitions, a vast majority of which were unguided.
The magnitude of the evidence collected and cataloged by The Times shows that the use of these kinds of weapons by Russia has not been limited or anomalous. In fact, it has formed the backbone of the country’s strategy for war since the beginning of the invasion.
Of the weapons identified by The Times, more than 210 were types that have been widely banned under international treaties. All but a handful were cluster munitions, including their sub-munitions, which can pose a grave risk to civilians for decades after war has ended. More than 330 other weapons appeared to have been used on or near civilian structures.
More at https://web.archive.org/web/20220620010520/https://www.nytimes.com/int
eractive/2022/06/19/world/europe/ukraine-munitions-war-crimes.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:ZH is aimed primarily at the retail investor, with a dose of capitalist libertarianism and an even bigger dose of clickbaitism. They do, however, often link to WSJ or other "mainstream" publications. Clearly, you don't know the website.
Originally posted by SignyM:
THUGR is too stupid to notice that ZH links IT'S sources, or too lazy to follow them up.
CAPON: I have from time to time, and it's more of the same BS. Not unlike Truth Social - more MAGA grifters grifting MAGAs. ZH working their grift selling bs and sh*t.
Quote:Because it is CONVENIENT new AGGREGATOR. Intresting articles on ZH are a flag to look up the topic elsewhere. Howevever, I have often cautioned ppl to put their "shit-filters" (that exact phrase) in place before they go swimming in ZH. As usual, you chose to misrepresent my posting history.
Originally posted by SignyM:
But I have never promoted ZH as THE place to get news.
CAPON: It is THE most popular source for you.
Quote:Nah, about the same. The only problem is, you BELIEVE the shit that CNN dumps out.
Originally posted by SignyM:
It's 90pct garbage, and I ignore most of it. It is, however, convenient, if you don't mind filtering out the bull.
CAPON. So, much, much worse than cnn - check.
Quote:Why? Because they talk about military action in Ukraine, with maps and everything? Or because they don't echo your preferrred "narrative"? Too factual, perhaps, for your taste?
SIGNY: AFA other sources
Military Summary -
CAPON: almost unwatchable.
Quote:Oh, you mean EXACTLY like CNN, MSNBC, WaPo etc? Seriously, CAPON, if you filter out "anonymous oficials" from your preferred sources, there would be nothing left!
CAPON: The Duran
"some Biden officials..." which ones? Unsourced, youtube viewer fodder.
Quote:OMFG!
Originally posted by SignyM:
I don't look at all of these sites all of the time. They don't all agree with each other but then, I don't expect them to.
CAPON: Accurate reporting should reflect the same truths, whichever "side" they work for (or we think they do).
TOO FUNNY!!!
Weren't you JUST defending the M$M's bullshit-amplification-without-verification as "reporting"?
Not only do you misrepresent MY POV, you even misrepresent yours!
But then, nobody ever accused you of honesty, consistency, or respect for truth!
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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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At 12.30 PM, Kalibr high-precision long-distance sea-based missiles were launched at a command post of the Ukrainian troops near the village of Shirokaya Dacha (Dnepropetrovsk region).
At that moment a working meeting of the commanders of the Aleksandriya operational-strategic group was in progress.
More than 50 generals and officers of the AFU was eliminated. This included the General Staff of the Kakhovka group, airborne assault troops and units that operate towards Nikolayev and Zaporozhye.
ALSO
At 08.20 AM, Kalibr high-precision long-distance missiles destroyed 10 M777 155-mm howitzers and up to 20 armoured combat vehicles delivered by the West to the Kiev regime over the past 10 days that were located in a transformer plant in Nikolayev.
http://thesaker.is/sitrep-operation-z-%f0%9f%92%a5-theme-kalibr-kaboom/
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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ZIGGY: ZH is aimed primarily at the retail investor, with a dose of capitalist libertarianism and an even bigger dose of clickbaitism. They do, however, often link to WSJ or other "mainstream" publications. Clearly, you don't know the website.
>>> Yes, I know it better than you do.
ZIGGY: (ZH) Because it is CONVENIENT new AGGREGATOR. Intresting articles on ZH are a flag to look up the topic elsewhere. Howevever, I have often cautioned ppl to put their "shit-filters" (that exact phrase) in place before they go swimming in ZH. As usual, you chose to misrepresent my posting history.
>>> You agree with me that ZH is the most popular quoted source by you "Because it is CONVENIENT." And then you say I "misrepresent my posting history." You twist yourself up in knots.
ZIGGY: It's 90pct garbage, and I ignore most of it. It is, however, convenient, if you don't mind filtering out the bull.
The only problem is, you BELIEVE the shit that CNN dumps out.
>>> Except I don't. As I've said so many times, if I want to know if a physical event, like a school shooting has occurred, then cnn is almost unparalleled as a source. Otherwise they can't be totally trusted on their own. They're not bad though - not anywhere as bad as you say your main source ZH is, "It's 90pct garbage, and I ignore most of it."
ZIGGY: AFA other sources - Military Summary - ("Unwatchable") Why? Because they talk about military action in Ukraine, with maps and everything? Or because they don't echo your preferrred "narrative"? Too factual, perhaps, for your taste?
>>> More coffee shop intellectuals fawning and straining to sound intelligent & desperate to feel relevant. I've been to college, I know these people.
ZIGGY: Oh, you mean EXACTLY like CNN, MSNBC, WaPo etc? Seriously, CAPON, if you filter out "anonymous oficials" from your preferred soures, there would be nothing left!
>>> The whoever or whatever the fck the Duran is needs to establish credibility before they can say, "I heard somebody somewhere say something about somebody." That would be JSF reporting. NYTimes etc have establish a looong track record. Not perfect - no one is - but of all journalism, all reporting media, they have established themselves at the top.
ZIGGY: OMFG! TOO FUNNY!!! Weren't you JUST defending the M$M's bullshit-amplification-without-verification as "reporting"?
OMFG! TOO WRONG!!! No, scroll up and re-read.
ZIGGY: But then, nobody ever accused you of honesty, consistency, or respect for truth!
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Quote:Prove it. So far, all you've demonstrated is your ignorance.
Originally posted by CAPON:
ZIGGY: ZH is aimed primarily at the retail investor, with a dose of capitalist libertarianism and an even bigger dose of clickbaitism. They do, however, often link to WSJ or other "mainstream" publications. Clearly, you don't know the website.
>>> Yes, I know it better than you do.
Quote:I link the site frequently, but it's not where I get my "news", bc "news" is reporting on real events which has been validated, not just passing on psyops. ZH is full of opinion, speculation, and catastrophism. They DO, however, report on events that CNN (and other M$M outlets) won't.
ZIGGY: (ZH) Because it is CONVENIENT new AGGREGATOR. Intresting articles on ZH are a flag to look up the topic elsewhere. Howevever, I have often cautioned ppl to put their "shit-filters" (that exact phrase) in place before they go swimming in ZH. As usual, you chose to misrepresent my posting history.
>>> You agree with me that ZH is the most popular quoted source by you "Because it is CONVENIENT." And then you say I "misrepresent my posting history." You twist yourself up in knots.
Quote:CNN is a shitstream that amplifies the latest garbage put out by "anonymous officials". And its selection of reportable "events" is carefully curated to not disturb the "narrative". They would NEVER report on Russia's military successes or China's military development, for example, unless it had been approved by TPTB to support the current propaganda.
ZIGGY: It's 90pct garbage, and I ignore most of it. It is, however, convenient, if you don't mind filtering out the bull.
The only problem is, you BELIEVE the shit that CNN dumps out.
>>> Except I don't. As I've said so many times, if I want to know if a physical event, like a school shooting has occurred, then cnn is almost unparalleled as a source. Otherwise they can't be totally trusted on their own. They're not bad though - not anywhere as bad as you say your main source ZH is, "It's 90pct garbage, and I ignore most of it."
Quote:You apparently have not watched it. It is a straightforward report of troop movements, areas taken, roads under 'fire control' etc. All of it has been timely and ultimately (usually a week or so later) confirmed by Kiev. He does speculate on what might happen next and discusses alternate scenarios. I listen but don't take it seriously; prediction is where ppl like Scott Ritter, Larry Johnson, The Duran, etc disagree.
ZIGGY: AFA other sources - Military Summary - ("Unwatchable") Why? Because they talk about military action in Ukraine, with maps and everything? Or because they don't echo your preferrred "narrative"? Too factual, perhaps, for your taste?
>>> More coffee shop intellectuals fawning and straining to sound intelligent & desperate to feel relevant. I've been to college, I know these people.
Quote:They also refer to Russia's MoD, official Chinese and Russian and USA State Department readouts, court rulings, sites like oilprice.com, many M$M sources ... including American, British, French, and German, vote tallies, official polls etc. And when they DO refer to sources that are anonymous, they are VERY CAREFUL to caveat that information and point out that it may not be reliable, and often discuss the potential motives behind any particular narrative.
ZIGGY: Oh, you mean EXACTLY like CNN, MSNBC, WaPo etc? Seriously, CAPON, if you filter out "anonymous oficials" from your preferred soures, there would be nothing left!
>>> The whoever or whatever the fck the Duran is needs to establish credibility before they can say, "I heard somebody somewhere say something about somebody."
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CAPON: NYTimes etc have establish a looong track record. [/qNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
At 12.30 PM, Kalibr high-precision long-distance sea-based missiles were launched at a command post of the Ukrainian troops near the village of Shirokaya Dacha (Dnepropetrovsk region).
At that moment a working meeting of the commanders of the Aleksandriya operational-strategic group was in progress.
More than 50 generals and officers of the AFU was eliminated. This included the General Staff of the Kakhovka group, airborne assault troops and units that operate towards Nikolayev and Zaporozhye.
ALSO
At 08.20 AM, Kalibr high-precision long-distance missiles destroyed 10 M777 155-mm howitzers and up to 20 armoured combat vehicles delivered by the West to the Kiev regime over the past 10 days that were located in a transformer plant in Nikolayev.
http://thesaker.is/sitrep-operation-z-%f0%9f%92%a5-theme-kalibr-kaboom/
The Saker' is a pseudonym of Andrei Raevsky, an ex-patriot Russian domiciled in Florida. In other words comrade, bullshit. Just more of Putin's propaganda.
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