Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Quote:Putin said he picked a fight with Ukraine, which is the exact opposite of what you wrote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Gosh. Maybe they shouldn't have picked a fight with Russia.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-24/full-transcript-vla
dimir-putin-s-televised-address-to-russia-on-ukraine-feb-24
February 24, 2022, 6:07 AM CST
President of Russia Vladimir Putin: Citizens of Russia, friends,
I consider it necessary today to speak again about the tragic events in Donbass and the key aspects of ensuring the security of Russia.
I will begin with what I said in my address on February 21, 2022. I spoke about our biggest concerns and worries, and about the fundamental threats which irresponsible Western politicians created for Russia consistently, rudely and unceremoniously from year to year. I am referring to the eastward expansion of NATO, which is moving its military infrastructure ever closer to the Russian border.
It is a fact that over the past 30 years we have been patiently trying to come to an agreement with the leading NATO countries regarding the principles of equal and indivisible security in Europe. In response to our proposals, we invariably faced either cynical deception and lies or attempts at pressure and blackmail, while the North Atlantic alliance continued to expand despite our protests and concerns. Its military machine is moving and, as I said, is approaching our very border.
Why is this happening? Where did this insolent manner of talking down from the height of their exceptionalism, infallibility and all-permissiveness come from? What is the explanation for this contemptuous and disdainful attitude to our interests and absolutely legitimate demands?
The answer is simple. Everything is clear and obvious. In the late 1980s, the Soviet Union grew weaker and subsequently broke apart. That experience should serve as a good lesson for us, because it has shown us that the paralysis of power and will is the first step towards complete degradation and oblivion. We lost confidence for only one moment, but it was enough to disrupt the balance of forces in the world.
As a result, the old treaties and agreements are no longer effective. Entreaties and requests do not help. Anything that does not suit the dominant state, the powers that be, is denounced as archaic, obsolete and useless. At the same time, everything it regards as useful is presented as the ultimate truth and forced on others regardless of the cost, abusively and by any means available. Those who refuse to comply are subjected to strong-arm tactics.
What I am saying now does not concerns only Russia, and Russia is not the only country that is worried about this. This has to do with the entire system of international relations, and sometimes even US allies. The collapse of the Soviet Union led to a redivision of the world, and the norms of international law that developed by that time – and the most important of them, the fundamental norms that were adopted following WWII and largely formalised its outcome – came in the way of those who declared themselves the winners of the Cold War.
Of course, practice, international relations and the rules regulating them had to take into account the changes that took place in the world and in the balance of forces. However, this should have been done professionally, smoothly, patiently, and with due regard and respect for the interests of all states and one’s own responsibility. Instead, we saw a state of euphoria created by the feeling of absolute superiority, a kind of modern absolutism, coupled with the low cultural standards and arrogance of those who formulated and pushed through decisions that suited only themselves. The situation took a different turn.
There are many examples of this. First a bloody military operation was waged against Belgrade, without the UN Security Council’s sanction but with combat aircraft and missiles used in the heart of Europe. The bombing of peaceful cities and vital infrastructure went on for several weeks. I
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Got about three sentences in and found that, as usual, you misrepresented the content.
Zzz zzz....
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Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Gosh. Maybe they shouldn't have picked a fight with Russia.
First it was de-nazification of Ukraine. Remember that one?
Next it was taking over Ukraine's oil and gas (and grain) production.
Now it's re-acquisition of lost (stolen territory) to return to the great empire.
And sprinkled in for more laughs, "it's all the USA's fault for... something... get back to us on that."
We'll wait 'til you get your next email directive for the next one.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
When prices go up more, I'll bet...
... you'll be blaming anyone but the person who started this "Return to Peter the Great." I think maybe Putin has had his brains scramble so hard by ineffective, third rate Ruskie covid drugs that he thinks it's some kind of Disney ride.
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Pivot to the midterms and a new boogeyman.
Quote:. Meanwhile
Ukraine - Killing Surrendering Soldiers, Shelling Civilians
At 8:30 UTC today I checked the priorities of the day on major U.S. news websites.
On the New York Times homepage the word "Trump" appeared 10 times, "Ukraine" appeared 5 times.
On the Washington Post homepage the word "Trump" appeared 12 times, "Ukraine" appeared 5 times.
On the Wall Street Journal homepage the word "Trump" appeared 9 times, "Ukraine" appeared 3 times.
The Google Trends graph for Ukraine has fallen to near zero.
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"I would like to note that in recent weeks, incidents involving the shooting of Ukrainian servicemen in the back by nationalist units have become more frequent in areas of military operations. ...
troops near Novomikhailovka in Donetsk People's Republic, more than 30 servicemen of the 25th Battalion of the 54th Mechanized Brigade of the AFU decided to lay down their arms and surrender.
Around 10 p.m., AFU servicemen with white flags began moving towards Russian positions.
At that moment, a Ukrainian nationalist barrier unit arrived at the stronghold in armored vehicles and opened crossfire in the back on the servicemen of the 54th Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces."
...The Ukrainian artillery is said to fire only 6,000 rounds per day for lack artillery ammunition. Yesterday 300 projectiles were fired by the Ukrainian army or by 'nationalists' onto civilian areas of 'rebel' held city of Donetsk. There were at lest 7 dead and 22 wounded. Graham Phillips provides a video report of the impacts and damage (vid). To use 5% of the daily ammunition ration to terrorize civilians in Donetsk is not only despicable but dumb as those artillery troops will now receive intensified attention they deserve.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/ukraine-killing-surrendering-sol
diers-shelling-civilians.html
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Quote:Signym, the more you read of Putin, the better it gets. If you had kept going, you would have read:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Got about three sentences in and found that, as usual, you misrepresented the content.
Zzz zzz....
As for our country, after the disintegration of the USSR, given the entire unprecedented openness of the new, modern Russia, its readiness to work honestly with the United States and other Western partners, and its practically unilateral disarmament, they immediately tried to put the final squeeze on us, finish us off, and utterly destroy us. This is how it was in the 1990s and the early 2000s, when the so-called collective West was actively supporting separatism and gangs of mercenaries in southern Russia. What victims, what losses we had to sustain and what trials we had to go through at that time before we broke the back of international terrorism in the Caucasus! We remember this and will never forget.
Properly speaking, the attempts to use us in their own interests never ceased until quite recently: they sought to destroy our traditional values and force on us their false values that would erode us, our people from within, the attitudes they have been aggressively imposing on their countries, attitudes that are directly leading to degradation and degeneration, because they are contrary to human nature. This is not going to happen. No one has ever succeeded in doing this, nor will they succeed now.
Despite all that, in December 2021, we made yet another attempt to reach agreement with the United States and its allies on the principles of European security and NATO’s non-expansion. Our efforts were in vain. The United States has not changed its position. It does not believe it necessary to agree with Russia on a matter that is critical for us. The United States is pursuing its own objectives, while neglecting our interests.
Of course, this situation begs a question: what next, what are we to expect? If history is any guide, we know that in 1940 and early 1941 the Soviet Union went to great lengths to prevent war or at least delay its outbreak. To this end, the USSR sought not to provoke the potential aggressor until the very end by refraining or postponing the most urgent and obvious preparations it had to make to defend itself from an imminent attack. When it finally acted, it was too late.
As a result, the country was not prepared to counter the invasion by Nazi Germany, which attacked our Motherland on June 22, 1941, without declaring war. The country stopped the enemy and went on to defeat it, but this came at a tremendous cost. The attempt to appease the aggressor ahead of the Great Patriotic War proved to be a mistake which came at a high cost for our people. In the first months after the hostilities broke out, we lost vast territories of strategic importance, as well as millions of lives. We will not make this mistake the second time. We have no right to do so.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-24/full-transcript-vla
dimir-putin-s-televised-address-to-russia-on-ukraine-feb-24
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Yeah.. yeah... PUTIN! RUSSIA! STALIN!...
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Quote:Did you actually read the English translation of Putin's speech? Putin said that Russia won't wait, like it did in 1941, for Ukraine to attack Russia. Russia will attack first.
Originally posted by SignyM:
Yeah.. yeah... PUTIN! RUSSIA! STALIN!...
One way for you to fix Putin's speech to match your preferences, Signym, is to claim it was mistranslated. You are welcome to try, but "PUTIN! RUSSIA! STALIN!" (actual quote of your own words) is not a new translation.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Why one Ukraine struggle is everyone’s
Russia’s targeting of churches has reinforced Ukrainian resolve to defend religious liberty – and the freedom it allows for individual conscience.
June 15, 2022
By the Monitor's Editorial Board
One running tally in the Ukraine war is the number of churches damaged or destroyed by the Russian military. During a TV address in early June, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy announced that 113 churches had been attacked since the Feb. 24 invasion. His larger point to the Ukrainian people? The struggle to save Ukraine is also a defense of religious liberty.
Protecting that freedom – among others – may indeed be a big motivator for Ukrainian fighters. After all, the largely Christian nation elected a Jew as president – Mr. Zelenskyy – by a landslide in 2019. Ukraine’s religious leaders often speak of freedom of conscience in choosing and practicing a faith. Its main faiths – Orthodox, Catholic, Protestant – cooperate on issues, not merely coexist. During the 2013-14 Maidan revolution, clergy offered prayers, comfort, and serenity to pro-democracy protesters in the capital, Kyiv.
One reason given for the war is a fear by President Vladimir Putin that Ukraine’s various Orthodox churches have broken or are breaking away from the authority of the Russian Orthodox Church, which aligns itself with the Kremlin’s autocracy. That drift undercuts a belief in Russia that it is the center of the Orthodox world.
The attacks on Ukrainian churches may be aimed at sending a message against religious freedom. But they serve another purpose. “Given that the church as an institution of society enjoys the greatest level of trust of the citizens of Ukraine, religious figures are one of the biggest obstacles for the Russian invaders,” Maksym Vasin, executive director of the Institute for Religious Freedom, told Devex, a news site on global development.
Such attacks are not a surprise to Ukrainians. After Russia took Crimea by force in 2014 – a response to the success of the Maidan revolution – it suppressed all faiths in the peninsula other than the Russian Orthodox Church. Now the war in 2022 is again reinforcing Ukraine’s national narrative that it is a country that honors individual rights, especially religious liberty.
Freedom, however, is only a means to an end. “I have to be free in order to love,” says The Right Rev. Dr. Andriy Chirovsky at Toronto’s St. Michael’s College and an expert on Eastern Christianity. Being able to love is what it means to be created in the image and likeness of God, he told The Catholic Register while speaking about the Ukraine war.
During his TV address on June 4, the Ukrainian president pleaded with Russian troops to stop attacking churches. He was appealing to their conscience, perhaps out of a deep love. That is what religions do. They appeal to people to think from higher principles. As Ukrainians defend their own religious liberty, they are doing so for everyone.
https://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/the-monitors-view/2022/0615/Why-o
ne-Ukraine-struggle-is-everyone-s
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Gosh. Maybe they shouldn't have picked a fight with Russia.
When prices go up more, I'll bet we'll be wishing the same thing
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Everybody in America except for rich white Democrats and people like me who have prepped for this day all their lives already have, a long time ago.
When gas hits $10 we're going to go back to having witch trials.
Keep bringing on the pain, Joe*. Watch the people devolve into Lord of the Flies under your watch.
I've got plenty of popcorn for the show.
Meanwhile though... Seriously. Stock up on shit now.
They're not telling you this, but the price of everything is going way up between late July and sometime in September. The lack of fertilizers and their impact on the harvests are about to send shockwaves through the economy.
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Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus
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Yeah, yeah... we should all get together and defend the corrupt Ukrainian regime bc..?
More hyperpoble and frothing.
How 'bout we fix our own not-inconsiderable problem FIRST, before we start trying to reamake someplace else?
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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