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Punishing Russia With Sanctions

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Wednesday, May 11, 2022 7:19 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

MORE bullshit from SECOND.

Seriously, dude, with our fertilizer shortage you should be out helping our farmers and spreading out there, not here!

The reality is, your propaganda pisses me off. Your lies piss me off. I mean, everything you post about Russia and sanctions is complete garbage. It's impossible to have an intelligent discussion with you bc you lie so much.

What does that say about you?

Gazprom said it had received notification from Ukraine that the country would stop the transit of gas to Europe via the Sokhranivka interconnector from 0700 local time on Wednesday.

GTSOU, which operates Ukraine's gas system, said it would stop shipments via the Sokhranivka route from Wednesday, declaring "force majeure", a clause invoked when a business is hit by something beyond its control. The Russian company Gazprom said it saw no proof of force majeure or obstacles to continuing as before. Gazprom added that it was meeting all obligations to buyers of gas in Europe.

GTSOU CEO Sergiy Makogon told Reuters that Russian occupying forces had started taking gas transiting through Ukraine and sending it to two Russia-backed separatist regions in the country's east.

Ukraine's suspension of Russian natural gas flows through the Sokhranivka route should not have an impact on the domestic Ukrainian market, state energy firm Naftogaz head Yuriy Vitrenko told Reuters.

The Novopskov compressor station in the Luhansk region of eastern Ukraine has been occupied by Russian forces and separatist fighters since soon after Moscow began what it describes as a "special military operation" in February.

It is the first compressor in the Ukraine gas transit system in the Luhansk region, the transit route for around 32.6 million cubic metres of gas a day, or a third of the Russian gas which is piped to Europe through Ukraine, GTSOU said.

https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2022-05-10/ukraine-opera
tor-to-suspend-russian-gas-flow-via-sokhranivka-entry-point


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Thursday, May 12, 2022 1:02 AM

Russia’s Economy Facing Worst Contraction Since 1994

GDP may shrink 12% on sanctions, internal forecast shows

Finance Ministry sees worse contraction than Economy Ministry

Bloomberg News
May 9, 2022, 7:12 AM CDT
Updated on May 10, 2022, 3:12 AM CDT

Russia is facing the deepest economic contraction in nearly three decades as pressure from sanctions imposed by the U.S. and its allies mounts, according to an internal forecast by the Finance Ministry.

Gross domestic product is likely to shrink as much as 12% this year, deeper than the 8% decline expected by the Economy Ministry, according to people familiar with the estimates who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations. The government hasn’t released a public forecast since the invasion of Ukraine.

The Finance Ministry issued a statement Tuesday saying the report of the forecast was inaccurate. “Preparation of official macroeconomic forecasts does not fall under the Finance Ministry’s authority,” it said, noting that it “expects that the measures taken by the government and the Bank of Russia will make it possible to ease to a large extent the negative consequences of sanctions and ensure stable economic development.”

A 12% contraction would put the economic pain on par with the turmoil seen in the early 1990s, when Russia’s Soviet-era economy lurched toward capitalism with a contraction not seen since wartime.

“The main negatives are the oil embargo, the EU giving up Russian gas, along with more departures among foreign companies,” said Natalia Lavrova, chief economist at BCS Financial Group in Moscow. “All that will probably expand gradually, with a lot of negative carrying over in to 2023.”

Excluding those factors and based only on current sanctions, she forecasts a contraction of 10.8% in 2022 and about 5% in 2023.

The Bank of Russia said April 29 it expects a contraction between 8% and 10% this year. The International Monetary Fund forecast one of 8.5%, while a Bloomberg survey of economists found a median decline of 10.3%.

If the Finance Ministry’s forecast proves accurate, that would erase about a decade of economic growth, according to one person familiar with the forecasts.

Uncertainty about the outlook remains very high as the war continues and the U.S. and its allies discuss further sanctions, including on key exports like oil, the people said.

The press service at the Economy Ministry didn’t respond to a request for comment.

— With assistance by Benjamin Harvey

https://web.archive.org/web/20220510205444/https://www.bloomberg.com/n
ews/articles/2022-05-09/russia-s-economy-facing-worst-contraction-since-1994


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Thursday, May 12, 2022 1:32 AM

Nobody cares.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

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Sunday, May 15, 2022 6:02 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.

The list of anti-Ukraine Republican lawmakers is quickly growing

Little by little, with each new proposal, a few more Republicans sign up for the Anti-Ukraine list:

1 Republican in early March opposed a simple, nonbinding resolution declaring American support for Ukraine and demanding Russian President Vladimir Putin call a cease fire.

2 Republicans opposed a bill to protect religious freedoms in Ukraine

8 Republicans opposed suspending trade privileges for Russia in mid-March

17 Republicans opposed a resolution supporting Moldova, whose leaders fear their Ukraine-bordering nation could be Putin’s next target

19 opposed a similar resolution in support for Georgia

55 House Republicans opposed legislation to build secure telecommunications networks in Ukraine and neighboring nations on April 27.

57 Republicans opposed President Biden’s request for $40 billion in weapons and humanitarian aid on Tuesday.

These Republicans sum up their world view in blunt, nationalist terms. “Let me ask you,” Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) said during an interview Thursday. “Has Vladimir Putin stopped his war in Ukraine because of all these sanctions? No, not at all. It hasn’t done anything. So, you know what? I care about our country, United States of America and our people. That’s it.” That's not it.

Greene does not even care about the USA, but since loudmouth Greene would not benefit, she didn't say it for her own good. You don't need to be a mind-reader to know Greene's mind. She has spilled her guts too many times for it to be a secret only she knows.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-list-of-anti-ukraine-repub
lican-lawmakers-is-quickly-growing/ar-AAXgpTK


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Sunday, May 15, 2022 6:56 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.

The list of anti-Ukraine Republican lawmakers is quickly growing



They should be put on notice that nobody cares too.

Being anti-something shows that you care just as much as being pro-something.



Nobody gives one single shit about Russia or Ukraine.

And we certainly don't want one single fucking dime going to Ukraine.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

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Monday, May 16, 2022 12:23 AM

George Takei @GeorgeTakei tweeted:

When Russia sanctioned Canada, it barred leaders from all major federal parties, including conservative leaders.

But when Russia sanctioned the U.S., it barred Democratic leaders only. It didn’t name a single GOP leader.

The signal couldn’t be clearer.

10:10 PM · Mar 15, 2022·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/georgetakei/status/1503931626258149378

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Monday, May 16, 2022 5:35 AM

Fuck George Takei.

He's a waste of carbon.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

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Monday, May 16, 2022 6:40 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fuck George Takei.

He's a waste of carbon.

Well deserved ostracism makes Trump voters irritable, sensitive, and mentally deranged.

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Monday, May 16, 2022 6:55 PM

Renault Hands Lada Maker to Russia as Price of War Mounts

Tara Patel

(Bloomberg) -- In the months since the start of the war, Renault along with other foreign manufacturers have halted plants, blaming their inability to get crucial imported parts needed for production. Renault SA agreed to transfer its 2.2 billion-euro ($2.3 billion) Russian business to state entities for a symbolic sum in what amounts to a nationalization triggered by the war in Ukraine.

The French manufacturer’s majority stake in carmaker AvtoVaz -- which produces the top-selling Lada brand -- will go to a state-run automobile research institute known as NAMI, while the city of Moscow will take over an assembly plant near the Russian capital, according to a statement Monday.

A spokeswoman said the asset changed hands for a symbolic sum, previously reported as one ruble. Renault has the option to buy back its stake in AvtoVaz for the next six years.

The agreement marks the end of an era for Renault in Russia, where the automaker owned 68% of AvtoVaz, which runs a sprawling car plant on the banks of the Volga River dating back to Soviet times. Renault’s roots in the country, which grew to become its second-biggest market, stem from a $1 billion deal sealed in 2007 between former leader Carlos Ghosn and a top ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Renault’s pullout from Russia could also serve as a lesson for other companies that have announced withdrawals but have yet to finalize plans. Siemens AG last week said it would abandon operations in the county after more than a century, signaling an “orderly wind down” without giving details. Cement-maker Holcim Ltd. has also said it’s exiting Russia and will try to sell its three factories.

Withdrawal for Renault will carry financial pain. The carmaker cut its outlook in March for this year both for profit margin and free cash flow due to the risks posed by the war on its Russian operations. On Monday, the company confirmed the lowered outlook and a writedown in the first-half for the value of the Russian business, which was 2.2 billion euros at the end of last year.

“We are making a responsible choice toward our 45,000 employees in Russia, while preserving the group’s performance and our ability to return to the country in the future,” Chief Executive Officer Luca de Meo said in a statement.

Moscow’s Mayor Sergey Sobyanin said Renault’s plant near the city will start to produce Moskvich cars, a Soviet-era model, according to his blog.

In reviving the legendary Soviet-era brand, the move would take the site back in time. The plant first produced Ford cars in the 1930s before acquiring an Opel manufacturing line from Germany shortly after World War II and switching to the Moskvich nameplate. Moscow used the site to create a joint venture, while Moskvich itself went bankrupt a few years later.


AvtoVaz’s Togliatti plant will continue to make Ladas, Russia’s Industry and Trade Ministry said in its Telegram account. The Central Research and Development Automobile and Engine Institute, or NAMI, reports to the ministry.

The Russia debacle comes at a bad time for the carmaker, which was is still struggling to turn around following the crisis stemming from Ghosn’s 2018 arrest in Japan and the pandemic.

The company came under strong pressure from investors during the first weeks of the war in Ukraine as the most exposed vehicle manufacturer to Russia. It was also called out by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy for supporting Putin’s “war machine” by delaying a pullout.

Operational Hole

Renault had 45,000 staff in Russia so the transfer will leave a big hole in the automaker’s operations. The Lada was part of de Meo’s strategy for affordable passenger cars along with the Dacia brand.

The CEO is now considering a structural overhaul of Renault by hiving off electric-vehicle and combustion-engine entities.

The other partner in the AvtoVaz venture is Rostec State Corp., a Russian government-owned defense conglomerate headed by Sergey Chemezov, a

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Tuesday, May 17, 2022 7:17 AM

The Ukraine war is creating a jobs crisis in Russia

The Russian unemployment rate, which hovered around 4.6% in the first quarter of 2022, is likely to rise to 9% by the end of the year, according to a survey of analysts that Bloomberg conducted in April. Simultaneously, Russian year-on-year inflation shot up to nearly 18% in April. The combination will lead to a cost-of-living crunch that will hurt the average Russian citizen as well as the economy. According to a leaked document, Russian’s finance ministry expects the GDP to shrink by 12% this year, erasing a full decade of economic growth.

In February, 3 million Russians were unemployed. A further 2 million jobs are at risk this year, according to a report from the Center for Strategic Research, a think-tank in Moscow.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220517010701/https://qz.com/2166086/the-
ukraine-war-is-creating-a-jobs-crisis-in-russia
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