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Tuesday, May 10, 2022 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by second:
My father broke the rule about not smoking. He had excuses: Lucky Strikes and Camels were free to soldiers during WWII. He kept smoking, I remember it well, but then he stopped, years passed, and then he died. It was a huge surprise to him, but NOT TO ME, that quitting didn't mean my father would live a long life.

He was absolutely certain that once he quit, the harm was soon left behind. This is a concept that a majority of humans misunderstand because they think they will be forgiven when they break any rules, mostly because rules don't instantly kill them. I have fought and worked and gone drinking/eating/recreating/gambling in places that will kill me today when the rules are broken, so I have a concrete and very different idea how reality works than most people.

Most people believe in their hearts, a religious belief they will be forgiven when they make "mistakes", but reality does NOT work that way. The man-made Universe I live in can be horrifyingly ugly and it has a perfect and unforgiving memory, and will make anybody poor, sad, sick and dead, despite them not remembering what they did wrong 5 years or more in the past.

May your past not catch up with you, 6ix. The universe is a random place where good luck is possible.




My past has already caught up with me in many ways. I have less than 1/3rd of my teeth left. I have quite a few family and friends I'll likely never be talking to again (whether that's a bad thing or not in most cases is probably subjective though).

I'm under no illusion that I get any do-overs, and even if I were to quit now I probably already cut quite a few years off of my life. And unlike Dennis Leary joking that it's "the bad ones at the end that nobody wants", I know that isn't true and I'll still be stuck with those bad ones that nobody wants and I'm just shortening the amount of good ones I still have left in me every day I don't quit.

I mean, honestly, I really don't care much about that though. The "best" years are already behind me, and I wasted most of them. I'm never getting them back.

All I can do now is try to make the ones I have left as stress free and enjoyable as possible while helping out the small number of people I actually do care about.

I have no desire to live another 40 years. It would be nice to at least get a few years of Social Security payments and not be carting around an oxygen tank everywhere I go though.

At this point, I'm only about 10 years away from when the males in my family start dropping like flies. Except for two of them in the previous generation who have both reached retirement age, everybody else has died before they would have been able to retire.

And whether or not there is a Heaven and Hell, I'm okay with this.

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Wednesday, May 11, 2022 1:30 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

And whether or not there is a Heaven and Hell, I'm okay with this.

Being fatalistic is maybe your philosophy, although not one I find useful.

Here is how the Supreme Court got to where it is on abortion:

President Barack Obama’s Affordable Care Act had mandated long overdue reform that contraception be covered by insurance at no extra cost to the employee. The owners of the craft supply chain Hobby Lobby sought to deny their employees this coverage, using their go-to claim that it violated their religious beliefs. Core to the plaintiffs’ case was the claim that the owners of Hobby Lobby believed that some kinds of contraception were “abortifacients.” This term was straight out of anti-abortion propagandist John Willke’s playbook. It suggested, with no grounding in medical fact, that birth control was tantamount to abortion. In a hotly contested 5-4 decision, the court ruled in favor of Hobby Lobby, opening the door to the erosion of all sorts of hard-won gains in the name of moral objection. Tellingly, the court’s majority wrote that the fact that birth control did not actually cause abortions was irrelevant in this context. For a violation of religious liberty to occur, the plaintiff must only believe that it could happen.

More about the 40-Year Plot to Undo Roe v. Wade at
https://web.archive.org/web/20220510191048/https://theintercept.com/20
22/05/10/roe-v-wade-federalist-society-religious-right
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, May 11, 2022 2:08 AM

Single-minded pursuit of an end to abortion

If we are by now accustomed to discussing ulterior motives and the well-documented history of legislators using abortion rhetoric to consolidate the right, we speak less of how the rhetoric works: by triggering in its subjects a stomach-churning horror. Millions of Americans believe that their fellow citizens tolerate and participate in the ongoing mass extermination of human children. They go to sleep — as I did as a child — assuming that the next day will involve thousands of babies murdered in a medical setting, whereupon cynical adults will call these murders “choices.” It is a horror not only in its violence but in the way it frames social reality; a world of self-justificatory liars slaughtering the innocent, architects of a darkness on par with the Holocaust or slavery. The family given to this worldview is focused on the grisly death of a child against the harrowing idea of “a woman’s right,” the repetition of which becomes itself part of the nightmare. Every other call to humanity then becomes a kind of hypocrisy: How can you claim to care about some narrow issue of social justice when you condone this unspeakable violence? It is a darkness the democratic process is not particularly equipped to handle, in that it breaks the terms of negotiation. If you come to believe you live in a state that sanctions the routine murder of children, nearly anything can be justified in their defense. “Abortion is murder,” reads the old tagline for the radical activist group Operation Rescue. “Act like it.”

This directive is illuminating in that, for a long time, even anti-abortion groups did not act like it. They hadn’t yet captured a party.

More at https://www.thecut.com/article/marjorie-dannenfelser-abortion-roe-v-wa
de.html


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Wednesday, May 11, 2022 2:57 AM

Could we all be at fault for this shit?

How did the mob get into this mess
Perhaps it was really Greatest Generation who caused all this, that Holly weirdo shit much-publicized murder known as the "Black Dahlia", that fucking ugly Lizard Queen of England owning most of the Land on Planet Earth? the Commie scumbag Fidel Castro, the pin up slut Bettie Page, Ayatollah Khomeini, that crackhead faggot with an out of tune jazz trumpet called Miles Davis that Satanic masonic Shriner Sammy Davids Jnr, Gerald Ford another Freemason Shriner, the Low IQ Robert Mugabe, and the senile Ronnie Raygun.
Maybe it was the silent Generation the type who gave us Gaddafi, a dead actress Sharon Tate, Jim Jones Kool Aid Juice and Jonestown?
should we thank the Retarded Boomers, its was the BOOMERS !! Boomer did all this Wacko Michael Jackson the pedo rumors surrounding Jacko, the Trump, Obama hot headed and smooth talk generation, Vlad Putin the killer an invader, Boomers gave us Pablo Escobar the drug runner, Whitney Houston out of her mind on crack, the ugly witch Madonna, the giant French Westler freak 88. André the Giant, the vaccines of Bill Gates, the scientology of John Travolta, Boomers gave us the Murdering OJ Simpson, the utter faggotry of Elton John and growing years of neo-liberalism and open borders and abortionism?
Was it the Millennials who did all this, the people wearing Che t-shirts Kim Jong-un types, they wasted their life on games made Pew Die Pie Big, that Amy Winehouse or Rihanna and a drunken Barbara Pierce Bush and Seth Rogan and Ivanka Trump were a thing for their time.
Could we blame Gen Z and the disgusting Kylie Jenner and her ugly rapper, the types who fawn over David Hogg?
Maybe what you see now is the slow push back, decades on garbage forced into magazine and tv, while West slowly entering a more heated and violent State of Collapse

More Terroristic Fire Bombs on their Way?



Is the Hollyweird Commiefornia Degenerate Programming Wearing Off For Some?

So the FBI that covered up for Epstein have nothing to say about Antifa Feminist Dyke Homosexual leftist protesters, some of them which have gone around with Fire Bombs and now outside the Supreme Court homes screeching Death Threats to their family? trying to intimidate Supreme Court Justices into their way of thinking on abortion, by throwing stuff into their property and screeching like demons right outside their personal homes?

Why was that woman doing that sick ritual with a Baby Doll ???
and why are they carrying out fire bomb terrorist attacks ???

We are told by Leftist Globalist Media to Blame US Christian Republicans again as some scapegoat, because Blue Dems equals good and Red Conservative type bad
...pick the retards from Team A Blue and Not the retards from Team B Republican


There is no other Position in the universe, there is no third Choice?

It would seem since the Dawn of Time Most Civilisation and Most Religions Held a Typically Negative View on Abortion, Numerous religious traditions have taken a stances in history, taboo and negative or a Sin or Murder by Christians, there are some Buddhists who have strict diets and are not even sure about unfertilized eggs...from a chicken, forbidden by the Bahá'í Faith, more than just a Christain thing its a Muslim thing a Jew thing a Hindu thing, hold that life begins at conception.
Classical Hindu texts strongly condemn abortion

Yet the Leftist Bolsevik cowards seem to only want to Attack Traditional Christian America, Sikhs explicitly prohibit the practice of 'kuri-mar' the Punjabi term which literally means "girl killing" but also encompasses female foeticide....so why are the Neo Lefties only Attacking American Christians?
When it comes to calling out Hindus or Jews or islam these Leftwing Atheists suddenly turn into the greatest fucking liars and cowards?
They only desire to flip everything over, utterly destroy the system, replace it with anything

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Wednesday, May 11, 2022 6:30 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

And whether or not there is a Heaven and Hell, I'm okay with this.

Being fatalistic is maybe your philosophy, although not one I find useful.



I'm not fatalistic.

I don't believe in predetermination.

I just have no desire to live much beyond my mid 60's is all.

Our bodies were never made for such things. Until technology allows us to live into our 80's while still maintaining our bodies of our 20's, I think it's pointless to postpone the inevitable.

If I haven't done what I wanted to do by 65, there's not much chance I'm going to get it done after then.

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Wednesday, May 11, 2022 6:44 AM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:

It would seem since the Dawn of Time Most Civilisation and Most Religions Held a Typically Negative View on Abortion, Numerous religious traditions have taken a stances in history, taboo and negative or a Sin or Murder by Christians, there are some Buddhists who have strict diets and are not even sure about unfertilized eggs...from a chicken, forbidden by the Bahá'í Faith, more than just a Christain thing its a Muslim thing a Jew thing a Hindu thing, hold that life begins at conception.

The Bible has a different story than the one that you and anti-abortionists are selling as the Truth.

Unfriendly reminder that the only thing the Bible says about abortion is how to perform one.

Life begins at birth — with the first breath (Gen 2:7).
https://biblehub.com/genesis/2-7.htm

Fetuses are not persons (Ex 21:22-25).
https://biblehub.com/context/exodus/21-22.htm

Fetuses should be aborted as proof of adultery (Numbers 5:11-31).
https://biblehub.com/context/numbers/5-11.htm

Life is not sacred (Deuteronomy 28:18-24).
https://biblehub.com/context/deuteronomy/28-18.htm

God will rip open pregnant mothers-to-be (2 Kings 8:12).
https://biblehub.com/2_kings/8-12.htm

Israelite King Menahem ripped open pregnant women (2 Kings 15:16).
https://biblehub.com/2_kings/15-16.htm

God will kill unborn fetuses (Isaiah 13:18).
https://biblehub.com/isaiah/13-18.htm

God will destroy fetuses in utero (Hosea 9:10-16).
https://biblehub.com/context/hosea/9-10.htm

God will dash infants in pieces and rip open pregnant women (Hosea 13:16).
https://biblehub.com/hosea/13-16.htm

https://imgur.com/gallery/YLQUU5v

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Wednesday, May 11, 2022 9:20 AM

In Iran if a 12-year-old girl is raped and impregnated by her father, she must carry the baby to term, or be thrown in prison for life. Wait, sorry, no. That's Alabama.

11:38 PM · May 8, 2022·Twitter for iPhone
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Wednesday, May 11, 2022 10:35 AM

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In Iran if a 12-year-old girl is raped and impregnated by her father, she must carry the baby to term, or be thrown in prison for life. Wait, sorry, no. That's Alabama.




Yeah. I don't think so.

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Wednesday, May 11, 2022 3:42 PM

Second every time you try debate or attack me you make silly assumptions, you try debate here but once again you assume I'm American or something

I have told you guys many times I have been to America but I'm not an American, what if I told you I was Shinto or Pagan or Buddhist or from some Native Tribal Religion on some Samoa island, would you attack the same way?

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The Bible has a different story than the one that you and anti-abortionists are selling as the Truth.



Who said I was Anti-Abortion? did I state any true position on this yet

I am however against terrorist attacks and Firebombs

Why are you supporting the Attackers now screeching like demons and throwing stuff outside the Supreme Court family homes?

Second you claim to know your Bible or do you? Are you just picking the old Jewish Christ Killer stuff from a webpage or interweb site, every time you try to criticize Christians and their Christian writings you seem to pick bits from the Old Jew Bible, the old Hebrew parts, with God blasting cities into Dust and Moses in a basket and Egyptians dying

You claim to have a Bible but you never told me which version of Bible you read, there are many many Churches with their own Bible Canon.
However in every Christian Bible they seem to share similar canon or continuity, the guy Jesus Christ comes much later, You need to fast forward and move half way into the Bible book and find 4 canonical gospels Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, Acts of the Apostles, maybe epistles I think its called and finally you get a lot of explosions and fire and swords and boom going off and a lot of Doomsday Apocalypse bits in The Book of Revelation.
If you split a Bible into two halves, the first half of the Bible the Jew Hebrew Bible, the second half of the Bible is the Christian Bible.

and Second
if the Bible is a Baby Killing Book and You are Pro-Abortion

Then Why the Fuck are you still Attacking Christianity or the Bible?

Anyways I will assume you by family or education or community are linked WASP Anglican style church or episcopal church background in regards to your experience with the religion by the way you quote the books, Protestant Bibles Chronicle 1–2 Kings, instead of 1–4 Kings? "Martyrdom of Isaiah" is different in Armenian Church and I believe Roman Catholic books are starting to use the term Esaias for Isaiah. Maybe you had a Anglican Bible in the family home? in the protocanonicals writing continuity,

once again 'Kings' is the old Christ Killer Jew Bible.

Hosea Old-Testament Jew Hebrew Bible

Ascension of Isaiah again this is the old Jew Bible and I think most Christian Churches no longer consider the writing true or part of canon Christian continuity, the pages have simply vanished, 'Isaiah' however does exist as a story.

Deuteronomy, Exodus, Numbers, Genesis once again Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew this is the Tanakh the collection of Hebrew scriptures, including the Torah, the Nevi'im, and the Ketuvim, it is first Jewish section of the Bible 'Christ Killer' section of the Bible.

So if the Church or Bible supports Abortion as you claim and you are PRO-ABORTION?

then why are you attacking it?

Maybe you jsut have 'issues'? Are you just schizo or you've some weird ptsd crazy thing inside your head something? Or do you just have utter contempt and blind hatred for the Bible and hatred for Christians?

You claim to know all religions very well and yet you can tell me nothing about them?

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Wait, sorry, no. That's Alabama.



So you're pro-islam, pro genital mutilation, support Rabbis biting the foreskins off babies, you support more islamic immigration and illegal immigrants, you are for the practice of Child Marriage in Africa and Hindu Sub Continent of India a practice that has mostly vanished from the West...but IMPORTANT thing is you're Anti-Alabama ... Ok Got It !

I have Never been to Alabama a state i

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Wednesday, May 11, 2022 4:50 PM

So Yesterday I seen something like 10 seconds of a clip there was some guy, perhaps a Senator with one of those Middle America rural North accents, I'm not good on US accents or dialect ... America has sometimes strange accents that can blend together and move across State Lines and most Americans move States in their life so I don't think anyone's ears are good on US local accents but he might have been up near the Canada border, I thought there was something northern or rural about this voice maybe Idaho Wisconsin or maybe I'm wrong and it could be Deep South like old 'Dukes of Hazzard' tv shows. I only heard his voice a few second maybe Western, northern Mountain, Mid-West sounding but then again Washington does start to dillute people's accent, there was something farmland or rural area about him like 'President Johnson'. He was making a speech saying how they have all these Laws to Protect Unborn Turtle Reptiles or Eagle Birds still inside the womb or Egg, What in damned tarnation is going on, all these laws to protect Birds and Lizards.

He had a display behind him, in the film footage you had a pic maybe of a Bird diagram for a womb for something or a disply of Turtles Babies and he said you can't put stuff near them without getting arrested...but there is no Law to Protect the Human?

It was in a feed, I thought it made some kind of interesting point but clicked off and didnt watch.

US Global Leftwing Media must have seen the story...so they twist and spin

So then I see globalist Leftwing mocking bird media, already in full information warfare twisting and lying and distorting his words.

The headlines are reading something like -
EVIL Republicans compare women to sea turtles and eagles in speech against 19th Amendment right


Well you know what idiots, for most of human history women have been second class, and what do the media do, they try make everyone hysterical over nothing, constantly post bullshit and made up partisan bias and spin, stupid lying fictional stories while a bunch of Taliban beards drove America out and it won't take long before it all goes crashing down and your Ninteeth Vanishes with it

and now the Neo-left is supporting Rioting Idiots attacking Churches, making threats to the Supreme Court Homes and throwing Firebombs into Buildings

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