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Punishing Russia With Sanctions

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Sunday, May 8, 2022 6:41 AM

Nobody cares about Russian inflation either.

Take care of your own country, Joe*.

There's an entire border and entire economy that your Administration* has neglected since you stole the election.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

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Sunday, May 8, 2022 7:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares about Russian inflation either.

Take care of your own country, Joe*.

There's an entire border and entire economy that your Administration* has neglected since you stole the election.

The President has zero control over inflation, unless there are price controls, which there are not. The rich American Capitalists control inflation, adjusting prices upwards to take away all the money of poor white trash. You can best see that in gasoline prices. The news is the same for all refineries, and the President has zero control, unless this was WWII, when the Federal government set gasoline prices despite the screaming objection of all Republicans that price controls are Communism:

The world’s largest oil companies are churning out massive profits in the first few months of the year even as they face uncertainties created by Russia’s war with Ukraine.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220430185559/https://www.houstonchronicl
e.com/home/article/Oil-majors-Exxon-and-Chevron-yield-hefty-profits-17137826.php


Marathon Petroleum profit tops estimates on robust refining margins — The refining and marketing segment's profit from operations stood at $768 million, compared with a loss of $598 million last year.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/marathon-petroleum-posts-profi
t-fuel-demand-nears-pre-covid-levels-2022-05-03
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, May 8, 2022 7:15 AM

Democrat's policy led us to where we are now. It didn't happen overnight. It isn't going to get any better before November, and it's very unlikely it will be better by the end of 2024 either.

Keep lying dude.

The only people voting Democrat until this gets fixed is rich white racists.


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Sunday, May 8, 2022 7:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Democrat's policy led us to where we are now. It didn't happen overnight. It isn't going to get any better before November, and it's very unlikely it will be better by the end of 2024 either.

Keep lying dude.

The only people voting Democrat until this gets fixed is rich white racists.

Let me be clear to you: America has forever been on this path of making Capitalists richer every year, which is fine with me, but if you're poor white trash, Capitalism is hard for you.

This is a very excellent way to run a country in my opinion. And I thank the voters for making it happen, even if the voters in bottom 50% didn't understand what they did to themselves, over and over, at each election:
The top 1% of Americans have about 16 times more wealth than the bottom 50%
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/23/how-much-wealth-top-1percent-of-americ
ans-have.html


Federal Reserve data indicates that as of Q4 2021, the top 1% of households in the United States held 32.3% of the country's wealth, while the bottom 50% held 2.6%.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States

In America, you can be either Homer Simpson or Montgomery Burns. Most are Homers, which is fine with Mr Burns.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, May 8, 2022 9:26 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Let me be clear to you:



Oh. You've been loud and clear dude. I've heard you say this dumb bullshit a thousand times now.

Let me be clear to you:

You are a fucking idiot.

Behold as the party you refuse to fix gets its ass handed to them even after Roe v Wade is dismantled.

That's how fucking bad your party is right now.


But keep blaming everyone else but the people who should be blamed for it. Including yourself.


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Sunday, May 8, 2022 6:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Let me be clear to you:



Oh. You've been loud and clear dude. I've heard you say this dumb bullshit a thousand times now.

Let me be clear to you:

You are a fucking idiot.

Behold as the party you refuse to fix gets its ass handed to them even after Roe v Wade is dismantled.

That's how fucking bad your party is right now.


But keep blaming everyone else but the people who should be blamed for it. Including yourself.

You posted dozens of times: "Nobody cares" about Ukraine. That is not a sign of sanity or successful living, but don't worry. You are not alone. That is the same careless feeling with a majority of Trump voters I know in Texas. They don't care about the Ukraine/Russian war, although some of them are drifting in Signym's direction and becoming more and more like Tucker Carlson, who cares too much for Russia. https://www.google.com/search?q=tucker+carlson+putin

Instead, these Republicans (who keep insisting they are "independent" thinkers and can make a success of their life by their own work, but for the moment aren't particularly successful because of Democrats) are complaining that the money for Ukraine weapons should be going to them because they need help. I know these people. Help is wasted on them. What they need is a kick in the ass for what they did: get fired from jobs, get divorced, get drunk, get fat, get . . . the list of failures goes on forever. These people are Homer Simpson, but Homer has a wife, 3 children, a house, a cat and dog, a job at the power plant where he never gets permanently fired for incompetence. Homer can't take credit for anything good he has, although he convinces himself it was by his efforts he has this family.

Homer has all these people and things in his life despite his worst behavior. Outside of the Simpson's, in the real America, any of Homer's stupidity would ruin his life permanently. The real Homers have ruined themselves. The Homers of America need to fix themselves. No political party can do that job for them. But the Homers of America keep believing that voting once in while for a Republican can fix them. Too bad America isn't the Simpsons cartoon where Homer the failure bounces back into a success in 22 minutes or less. And the ultimate stupid belief of these Homers is that letting bigger, stronger Russia quickly destroy Ukraine is for the best because that would lower gasoline prices.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, May 8, 2022 10:03 PM

Can someone tell me what's going on with the Russian army? Nothing I've read truly seems to explain its incompetence.

James Stavridis:
"Another key shortcoming, which surprised me, is the lack of a strong corps of mid-grade professionals in the Russian navy crews. Called chief petty officers in the U.S. Navy, these are sailors with 10-15 years of seagoing experience who lead the sailors on the deck. They are the backbone of the U.S. Navy, and the absence of such a cadre is a major problem for the Russians. (The same weakness — a lack of strong noncommissioned officers — exists in the Russian land forces, a major factor in the problems they are encountering ashore since the Feb. 24 invasion.)

I recently compared notes on the Ukraine sea war with a retired U.S. surface-warfare captain. He reminded me that when he toured a Russian cruiser, the officers wore name tags on their uniforms, while the sailors wore only numbers. This mentality — a reminder that the Russian fleet is in part composed of conscripts — reflects a lack of a coherent chain of command. That can work in peacetime operations, but quickly breaks down in combat."

https://jabberwocking.com/somebody-please-explain-russia-to-me/

Maybe the troops have yet to hear a plausible reason why they should risk their lives fighting Ukraine. So they're very reluctant to do it.

They ran into Ukraine thinking the heavily eastern Russian side would join them. A miscalculation. Ukrainian military has been preparing for 8 years, Putin understood this as well, but gambled on superior numbers.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, May 8, 2022 11:25 PM

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SECOND:
You posted dozens of times: "Nobody cares" about Ukraine. That is not a sign of sanity or successful living, but don't worry. You are not alone. That is the same careless feeling with a majority of Trump voters I know in Texas. They don't care about the Ukraine/Russian war, although some of them are drifting in Signym's direction and becoming more and more like Tucker Carlson, who cares too much for Russia.

MORE bullshit from SECOND.

Seriously, dude, with our fertilizer shortage you should be out helping our farmers and spreading out there, not here!

The reality is, your propaganda pisses me off. Your lies piss me off. I mean, everything you post about Russia and sanctions is complete garbage. It's impossible to have an intelligent discussion with you bc you lie so much.

What does that say about you?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Monday, May 9, 2022 7:03 PM

Fox News deals in Kremlin propaganda. So why not freeze Rupert Murdoch’s assets?

If NewsCorp’s owner were Russian, there would be no hesitation in applying sanctions.

If the west could find the courage, it would order an immediate freeze of Rupert Murdoch’s assets. His Fox News presenters and Russia’s propagandists are so intermeshed that separating the two is as impossible as unbaking a cake.

On Russian state news, as on Fox, bawling ideologues scream threats then whine about their victimhood as they incite anger and self-pity in equal measures. Its arguments range from the appropriation of anti-fascism by Greater Russian imperialists – the 40 countries supporting Ukraine were “today’s collective Hitler”, viewers were told last week – to the apocalyptic delirium of the boss of RT (Russia Today) Margarita Simonyan. Nuclear war is my “horror”, she shuddered, “but we will go to heaven, while they will simply croak”.

Russia would never give genuine western journalists airtime. But it can always find a slot for its favourite quisling: Fox News’s Tucker Carlson. He pushes out Russian propaganda lines or perhaps creates his own lies for Russia to use. Ukraine, not Russia, is the real tyranny. Nato provoked poor Vladimir Putin. The west is plotting to use biological weapons. Last week, he floated the theory that the war was not the result of an unprovoked invasion by a colonialist dictatorship but of the Biden administration’s desire to avenge Donald Trump’s victory in 2016.

It was a big hit in Moscow, reported BuzzFeed’s Julia Davis. “State TV propagandists loved it so much, Russia’s 60 Minutes included it not once, but twice in their evening broadcast – neatly bookended by the Kremlin’s war propaganda.”

Putin’s appeal to both the far right and the Chomskyan wing of the far left in Europe and North America is worthy of a study in itself. He was a dream for ultra-reactionaries: a white, Christian strongman, who was anti-liberal and anti-EU. His victories heralded a world in which might was right and morality was for losers.

In Europe, Russia’s atrocities have forced everyone from Arron Banks and Nigel Farage to Marine Le Pen and Matteo Salvini to find urgent reasons to change the subject. In the US, there remains a market for Putinism among a large minority of Republican voters. Their yearning for dictatorship, as evidenced by the support given to denying legitimate election results and to the fascistic forces that stormed Congress, is greater. The hatred of liberals in power is deeper.

More at https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/07/fox-new-deals-in
-kremlin-propaganda-freeze-rupert-murdochs-assets


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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THG
Monday, May 9, 2022 8:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

The U$D is rising against other major currencies, but the Russian ruble is now rising against the U$D, at 69 rubles per dollar - more valuable than it was BEFORE the Ukraine invasion.

You're boring. All you do is spout propaganda/ wishful thinking that is SO at variance from reality there is no way to even have a pointed discussion with you, much less expect any sort of actual analysis.

Sanctions will hurt Russia. But they will also hurt the EU probably even more. The question is, who is going to be hurt faster and reach a political collapse first?

You can't fight reality.





You keep talking shit as you Russian bastards continue to butcher women and children comrade. It's what you're good at. You guys must learn this shit from birth.

T


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