Russia keeps threatening with nukes
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A panel of Russian analysts on the state-run TV channel Russia-1 spoke about the Russian military test-firing a nuclear-capable missile and how it could damage areas in the U.S., such as New York City.
Russian state TV hosts and panelists giggled uncontrollably while discussing nuclear strikes against the continental territory of the United States. Can you imagine any of our prominent media anchors laughing at the idea of destroying cities?
https://www.newsweek.com/pentagon-response-russian-tv-nuclear-strike-d
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Why are Russians talking about nuking the USA? Because Russians are told they have two choices: Win this war or be destroyed. Aleksey Zhuravlyov, a member of the lower house of the Russian parliament, put a Kremlin spin on the war in Ukraine for the millions of viewers of an influential Russian talk show. Russia wasn’t really fighting Ukraine or Ukrainians; the real enemy was the American-led Western bloc. “We need to introduce a new term,” Zhuravlyov said. “Biden’s war.”
Given that Russia’s nuclear arsenal is capable of destroying humanity, it is bad news for everyone on the planet when Russians ask, as Putin once put it: “Why do we need the world if there is no Russia in it?”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/opinions-russians-are-told-they-h
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The threat of nuclear war gives Putin license to kill
History isn’t short of people to blame. You could say of the present world crisis that it was former president Barack Obama’s fault for not getting tougher with Russian president Vladimir Putin in Syria. You could blame former president Donald Trump for giving Putin a sense of entitlement and for undermining NATO, seeing it as a financial play. You could blame former German chancellor Angela Merkel for encouraging Russian gas imports, shutting out the nuclear energy option.
You could, of course, blame President Biden for explicitly telling Putin, and the world, what the United States wouldn’t do if he invaded Ukraine. And you could blame Biden and NATO for dribbling vital military aid to Ukraine over the first devastating months of the Russian invasion.
If you want to continue, you could blame the world’s military strategists for believing that Russia, after the fall of communism, had changed. You could, perhaps, blame NATO itself, for expanding its reach to the former Soviet republics of Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia.
Putin is unequivocally the one to blame. He is the one who wants to remake Russia in the image of the imperial tsars. It is a flawed scheme but a real one.
As the world grapples with the reality of Putin, the past informs but it doesn’t instruct. If NATO were to engage Russia with conventional forces, it would triumph. That is one lesson of Ukraine. Russian military forces are woefully inefficient, even incompetent.
Would it were that simple.
The beast in the room, the feared monster, the threat that hangs over the whole world is nuclear war. It is the clear-and-present danger. It shapes our handling of Russia and will shape our response to China, if and when it invades Taiwan.
Nuclear war avoidance is again dominating the world in ways we had nearly forgotten. Will Russia — a caged, fierce bear — resort to nuclear, and how much nuclear to what effect against which targets?
The United States and the Soviet Union reached a modus vivendi: mutual assured destruction (MAD), which kept the peace even as nuclear armaments proliferated and stockpiles grew exponentially. Is that still the option? Is MAD — so long after the collapse of the Soviet Union — still the underlying realpolitik, the restraining factor between nuclear powers?
Does that mean that anyone with nuclear weapons can wage conventional warfare in the belief that they won’t face NATO or any other serious restraining military action because they can unleash terrifying global destruction?
Or is there, as some believe, the prospect of limited nuclear engagement, using area tactical nuclear weapons? This has never been tested. There hasn’t been a limited nuclear ground war. Could it be contained? Should it be contemplated outside the deeper reaches of the defense establishment?
But it is what keeps the leaders of Europe, the United States and Canada awake nights. If you favor limited nuclear war, just look to the effects of a nuclear disaster, Chernobyl, and start multiplying.
It is the unthinkable scenario that must be thought about. It is the reality that holds back NATO and makes the West a spectator to the carnage in Ukraine.
Russia isn’t a rich country. It has a large, poorly trained and equipped military. But it bristles with nuclear weapons aimed at North American and European cities. Its ability to threaten us with nuclear horror changes the balance between nations: an indelible change to future foreign policy.
In the short term, when contemplating the return of MAD in international relations, the question is: How mad — as in insane — is Putin, and how ready is Biden?
The pieces on the world chess board have moved and they won’t be moved back. The intelligentsia has yet to grasp the extent to which Ukraine has changed the world — and made it a more dangerous place. They need to catch up fast.
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lol
Thanks for posting that. Ted loves pictures.
There's nothing under the building in real life though. 
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Russia’s top diplomat warned Ukraine against provoking World War III and said the threat of a nuclear conflict “should not be underestimated” as his country unleashed attacks against rail and fuel installations far from the front lines of Moscow’s new eastern offensive.
“Everyone is reciting incantations that in no case can we allow World War III,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said in a Russian television interview, according to a transcript on the Russian Foreign Ministry’s website.
Lavrov said he would not want to see risks of a nuclear confrontation “artificially inflated now, when the risks are rather significant.”
“The danger is serious,” he said. “It is real. It should not be underestimated.”
Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said on Twitter that Lavrov’s comments underscore Ukraine’s need for Western help: “Russia loses last hope to scare the world off supporting Ukraine. Thus the talk of a ‘real’ danger of WWIII. This only means Moscow senses defeat in Ukraine.”
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-zelenskyy-kyiv-business-nato
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Russia’s top diplomat said the West was engaged in a proxy war with his country that could escalate into a world war with nuclear weapons, as Western nations elevated their commitment to defending Ukraine.
“The risk is serious, real. It should not be underestimated,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said in a Russian state-television interview broadcast Monday night. “NATO is, in essence, going to war with Russia through a proxy and arming that proxy.”
German Chancellor Olaf Scholz last week said his government was treading carefully to avoid a nuclear war. But Germany said this week it would refurbish and send to Ukraine decommissioned antiaircraft cannon tanks known as Flakpanzer Gepard, or Cheetah, ending its longstanding reluctance to give tanks to the country.
For months, the U.K. has provided weapons on the proviso that they are used to defend Ukraine from Russian attack rather than offensively. But U.K. reversed that. “Things that the international community are now providing to Ukraine have the range to be used over the borders,” Mr. Heappey, who is U.K. minister for the Armed Forces.
Since Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the invasion, he has repeatedly raised the specter of nuclear war, invoking his country’s atomic arsenal in an effort to deter the U.S. and the NATO from getting involved in the conflict.
But as Mr. Putin’s army has faced fierce resistance from Ukrainian forces strengthened by large infusions of Western weaponry, concerns have grown in Washington and allied capitals that Russia could consider using a so-called tactical nuclear weapon to gain the upper hand on the battlefield.
Earlier this month, Russia further warned that it could station nuclear forces in and around Kaliningrad — a Russian exclave wedged between Lithuania and Poland — and bolster its military presence there if Finland and Sweden join the NATO alliance.
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urning-ukraine-conflict-into-a-world-war/ar-AAWBIkb
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Originally posted by second:
“NATO is, in essence, going to war with Russia through a proxy and arming that proxy.”
CORRECTION: America is going to war with Russia while straight up arming the proxy of a proxy.
If Democrats want war with Russia so bad, then declare it and send the things you've created in Public Schools to go fight it already.
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Quote:World War II began in September of 1939 when Nazi Germany invaded Poland. The United States would not join the Allied war effort until December 7, 1941 when it was attacked by the Japanese Empire in Pearl Harbor. You might say World War II started when Japan invaded China on July 7, 1937. The Philippines would be next with the Bataan Death March of captured Americans.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
“NATO is, in essence, going to war with Russia through a proxy and arming that proxy.”
CORRECTION: America is going to war with Russia while straight up arming the proxy of a proxy.
If Democrats want war with Russia so bad, then declare it and send the things you've created in Public Schools to go fight it already.
So, 6ix, why then did the United States not join the war effort before the Pearl Harbor attack? Lack of imagination. Germans and Japanese kept telling America about the countries that would be conquered, but Republicans in the Senate couldn't imagine it would happen. It took years, and thousands of highly dramatic American deaths involving flames and explosions and heroics, to get those Republicans to change their minds.
Putin has kept telling America about countries that would be conquered -- countries that joined NATO. It does not take much imagination to believe Russians will be executing Putin's plan, especially when Russia has the ultimate weapon and keeps threatening at least once a week to use it on NATO countries.
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If NATO has any power at all, why do we have to be involved at all?
Perhaps NATO should be disbanded if it can't function without us.
We've got our own invasion happening at our Southern border to worry about.
And until we do, nobody gives a shit about Russia or Ukraine.
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Quote:When Putin is finished with Ukraine, he will be invading another NATO country, but not Germany nor France nor UK nor USA.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If NATO has any power at all, why do we have to be involved at all?
Perhaps NATO should be disbanded if it can't function without us.
We've got our own invasion happening at our Southern border to worry about.
And until we do, nobody gives a shit about Russia or Ukraine.
Germany, France and the UK would have done nothing, as all weak countries will do nothing, until they are attacked. The USA helped Ukraine and then those other countries decided to help. If the USA stops helping, all other countries stop because their whiny cowardly cheapskate citizens don't want their Prime Minister to get involved. All of NATO would just stand back and watch as Putin invades the next NATO country.
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