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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Thursday, April 14, 2022 3:00 AM

Nobody cares.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

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Thursday, April 14, 2022 3:20 AM

Quote:

posted by second:
Russian TV Is Filled With Images of Bucha's Dead, Stamped With the Word "Fake"
Because the horrifying truth of what happened in Bucha, Ukraine, during the Russian occupation last month is unpalatable to officials in Moscow, the Russian government has invented a lurid fantasy to tell its own people.

SIGNY: More fake outrage brought to you by SECOND.
Why did Britain block an investigation by the UN?
Something to hide, perhaps?

SECONDRATE: Signym, you and Russians have confused up with down. Here are Russians complaining that up is down:

UK flagrantly violated UN Security Council procedure regarding Bucha situation
https://tass.com/world/1432333

Despite false claims from Russians, UK didn't do what Russia says:

UN’s Guterres joins call for Bucha war crimes probe
https://web.archive.org/web/20220412174254/https://news.un.org/en/stor
y/2022/04/1115522


Meanwhile, there are many countries and organizations investigating Russian atrocities at Bucha:



First the hanging, then the trial?
Nothing like an unbiased investigation, eh, SECOND? /snark

The time to collect evidence was when the bodies were still on the ground.

This is just more of your shit that you splatter against the wall.


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Thursday, April 14, 2022 4:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:

posted by second:
Russian TV Is Filled With Images of Bucha's Dead, Stamped With the Word "Fake"
Because the horrifying truth of what happened in Bucha, Ukraine, during the Russian occupation last month is unpalatable to officials in Moscow, the Russian government has invented a lurid fantasy to tell its own people.

SIGNY: More fake outrage brought to you by SECOND.
Why did Britain block an investigation by the UN?
Something to hide, perhaps?

SECONDRATE: Signym, you and Russians have confused up with down. Here are Russians complaining that up is down:

UK flagrantly violated UN Security Council procedure regarding Bucha situation
https://tass.com/world/1432333

Despite false claims from Russians, UK didn't do what Russia says:

UN’s Guterres joins call for Bucha war crimes probe
https://web.archive.org/web/20220412174254/https://news.un.org/en/stor
y/2022/04/1115522


Meanwhile, there are many countries and organizations investigating Russian atrocities at Bucha:



First the hanging, then the trial?
Nothing like an unbiased investigation, eh, SECOND? /snark

The time to collect evidence was when the bodies were still on the ground.

This is just more of your shit that you splatter against the wall.

Signym, you're a perfect example of the lawyerly point of view and I am an engineer.

Signym, you must have worked in some state bureaucracy or something equally worthless to end up looking at everything like a lawyer would.

There is a fundamental anathema between how design engineers work and how lawyers work. I understand what lawyers do and why it takes them years to finish a case while I only have days to finish my work or else the project fails and the company employees either all die in a fireball/explosion or the business goes bankrupt and the employees are fired. No lawyer has ever done anything of even the least consequence and none of them are under any real time pressure and the low pressure reality the lawyers live in luxury, where nothing is of any importance, where deadlines don't mean somebody ends up dead, certainly shows up in how many people hate lawyers for screwing around and taking forever to make decisions and finish each tiny bureaucratic step. That's why guys like Slobodan Miloševic die of heart disease and smoking during 3 year long trials -- lawyers don't feel the need to hurry -- never have and never will.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, April 14, 2022 5:25 AM

That's pretty impressive what Second can accomplish from his mom's basement, huh?

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Thursday, April 14, 2022 6:59 AM

The war in Ukraine would end with Putin’s death. Stalin’s death brought peace. According to Svetlana, Stalin had "a difficult and terrible death". It is conjectured that Stalin was murdered; Beria has been suspected of murder, although no firm evidence has ever appeared. Stalin's death was announced on 6 March. The body was embalmed, and then placed on display in Moscow's House of Unions for three days. Crowds were such that a crush killed about 100 people, which shows how even Russian funerals, like Russian wars, can end with massive death because Russkies are homicidal idiots.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin#Final_years:_1950%E2%80%93
1953


Or maybe Putin’s death will be similar to Putin's good friend Muammar Gaddaf -- who was sodomized with a bayonet. This is what can happen to leaders who stay in power too long.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Muammar_Gaddafi

Putin's End?



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, April 14, 2022 7:12 AM

Another logic fail from SECOND: Investigating war crimes is what lawyers do. It involves THE LAW and is NOT an engineering project.

How could you fail to capture that distinction, SECOND?
Oh, I know!

It's because you're a moron!

I used to supervise analyses that were technically complicated (the same kind used by OPCW for chemical weapons) that wound up IN COURT. I will stack my technical know-how against yours any day, AND my knowledge of legal process.

You?

You're just a twisted fuck lost in your own twisted world.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Thursday, April 14, 2022 7:17 AM

Some day, when I'm so bored I have nothing better to do, I should make a list of SECOND's failed arguments, just from this thread alone

Yanno, like

"War crimes should be handled like engineering projects" and

"Think of the tsars!!!" (Yes, indeed. Think of them. /snark)

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Thursday, April 14, 2022 8:42 AM

“Our ship is not sinking. It’s a special underwater operation!” -- Vladimir Putin

What follows is a tragic story at sea that would raise the righteous anger of a Russian law firm, which would then file for property damage, personal injury, wrongful death, loss of income, and damage to the natural environment. Good luck with trying to collect from Ukraine, which would kill the Russian lawyers if the chance is available. Other than another Russian, who else cares how many Russian lawyers and sailors gloriously die for the Mother Land?

Flagship of Russia's Black Sea fleet reportedly seriously damaged, evacuated

The flagship of Russia’s Black Sea fleet was heavily damaged and its entire crew evacuated Wednesday, according to the Russian news agency TASS.

Citing the Russian Defense Ministry, TASS reported that “A fire onboard the Mosvka missile cruiser caused a blast of the broadside munitions. The ship received serious damage. The crew was evacuated.”

Russian officials did not offer details as to the cause of the fire, but Ukrainian regional governor Maksym Marchenko said on Telegram that Ukrainian missiles “caused very serious damage to the Russian ship.” There were unconfirmed reports that the cruiser — Russia’s largest warship in the Black Sea — had been struck by Neptune anti-ship missiles fired from Ukraine, and sunk.

The ship carried a crew of more than 500.

The loss of the ship would be another major embarrassment for Russian forces, and a significant tactical military victory and propaganda win for Ukraine.

The Moskva, a Slava-class guided missile cruiser, was involved in the attack on Ukraine’s Snake Island in the early days of the war, where it was one of two ships demanding the surrender of the Ukrainian garrison, who responded: “Russian warship, go f— yourself.”

The Moskva is the second major Russian warship lost in the war so far; in late March, a Ukrainian missile struck the landing ship Orsk in the Azov Sea port of Berdyansk, Ukraine.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220414022250/https://www.marketwatch.com
/story/flagship-of-russias-black-sea-fleet-reportedly-seriously-damaged-evacuated-11649898645


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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THG
Thursday, April 14, 2022 5:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

Another logic fail from SECOND: Investigating war crimes is what lawyers do. It involves THE LAW and is NOT an engineering project.

How could you fail to capture that distinction, SECOND?
Oh, I know!

It's because you're a moron!

I used to supervise analyses that were technically complicated (the same kind used by OPCW for chemical weapons) that wound up IN COURT. I will stack my technical know-how against yours any day, AND my knowledge of legal process.

You?

You're just a twisted fuck lost in your own twisted world.






Bullshit comrade, bullshit.

T


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Thursday, April 14, 2022 5:40 PM

As far as Browder is concerned, no matter what other commentators might think, Putin is definitely not crazy.

“My analysis is that he’s acting very rationally based on his own depraved values. He’s been a dictator for 22 years and has stolen hundreds of billions from the Russian state. After a while, that loss creates hardship across the country and there is a very real probability of the people rising up and overthrowing him because they’re hungry and poor,” said Browder. “Putin understands this and saw the writing on the wall for himself. He couldn’t just sit there and wait to be overthrown, so he did what most dictators do when they’re afraid of losing power: He started a war.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ex-american-banker-bill-browder-reveals-
why-vladimir-putin-is-so-desperate-to-snatch-him


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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