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What is Putin's end game?

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Tuesday, March 15, 2022 5:39 AM

OMG I can't believe the ridiculous anti-Russian propaganda being poured into the western media.
RUSSIANS EAT BABIES FOR BREAKFAST AND ABORTED FETUSES FOR DESSERT!
CHECHENS RAPE THEIR WAY THRU MARIUPOL
RUSSIANS CONDUCT GRUESOME BIO-EXPERIMENTS ON PRISONERS!

Does anyone really believe that shit?

I can hardly wait for the chemical/bioweapon false flag! Western neocons are certainly preparing the soil for it.

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So THUGR, you haven't answered my Q: If Russia really is targeting civilians, how many do you suppose they could kill in 2-3 weeks?

3,000?
6,000?
20,000?

After all, we killed up to a million Iraqi civilians, and we weren't even trying!
What's your best guess?

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Tuesday, March 15, 2022 6:08 AM

Well, THUGR?

care to hazard a guess on how many civilians killed by Russians so far?

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Tuesday, March 15, 2022 7:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, THUGR?

care to hazard a guess on how many civilians killed by Russians so far?

Russia sincerely doesn't care how many die. For example of not caring:

The Russian Foreign Minister said at the UN a little while ago that the murder of reporter Brent Renaud was legitimate because he was a "filmmaker" and not a "journalist".

Apparently he believes that not only do new Russian laws outlawing anyone filming or reporting on their war/invasion apply in the foreign land they are trying to occupy, but that a penalty of summary execution without trial of filmmakers from a third country is a legitimate action.

For the record, the wounded reporter who was with Brent Renaud says that they were denied access through a Russian checkpoint in Ukraine. The driver had turned the vehicle around and they were leaving the area when the Russians opened fire on their vehicle.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, March 15, 2022 8:00 AM

"Except that's not what he said. Plus, his statement was cut off, so we don't know what ELSE he said.

Key points "APPARENTLY from a Russian shot"
Yet to be determined.

"We regret any death..."
Not the callous statement you imply.

Russians would not shoot a journalist or filmmaker on purpose: that's too much bad publicity.

But they might shoot one by mistake. The circumstances aren't clear. Were they approaching a checkpoint? Had they been cleared at the checkpoint? Did they just drive through, swimming upstream, so to speak, of the refugees? Had they turned around? How to account for their wounds to the back? (There was another person with him.) Were they asked to halt? If so, did they hear and/or understand?

Were they wearing any sort of insignia identifying themselves as filmmakers? (Not being journalists, they would not have had "journalist" tags.) We're their cameras obvious?

I can imagine situations where checkpoint guards simply see two fit guys driving into a city from which many people are fleeing. They should have stopped, or been stopped, at the checkpoint and been cleared. But maybe the checkpoint wasn't obvious, or they didn't hear the order, or they were so anxious to get the story they ignored all that and drive through, and what we have is a tragic misunderstanding by the guards.

In civilian life, circumstances make the difference between accident (I tripped and fell and the gun went off), negligent homicide (I was cleaning a loaded gun and it went off), manslaughter (I thought it was a robber but it was just my neighbor) and murder (I killed that SOB bc he voted for Trump).

Not sure about war.



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Tuesday, March 15, 2022 5:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

I can imagine . . .

. . . what you're doing, Signym, is being an apologist for murder. You're really committed to the role because you used more words than the Russian Ambassador to the UN.

Two more points:

1) If Trump wanted to prove the world wrong that believes he cheated on his income taxes and paid nothing, he should make his income tax forms publicly available. He said he would, many-many times, but he didn't. I think that is proof Trump cheated on his taxes and doesn't want the cheating confirmed.

2) If Putin wanted to prove the world wrong about his ambition to conquer the Eurasian continent, he should arrest/execute his philosopher, Aleksandr Dugin. Putin has arrested/executed many-many others who have plans for Russia incompatible with Putin's. Dugin is just one more.

Philosophers like Dugin tend to be more systematic than politicians like Putin. Unlike a politician, a philosopher will be more forthright, less sneaky, about ultimate goals. This philosopher Dugin, who Putin knows, doesn't run Russia, but if he did . . .

Aleksandr Dugin: The sinister ideologue who's Putin's favourite philosopher
by Alex Hearn
https://www.thejc.com/lets-talk/all/aleksandr-dugin-the-sinister-ideol
ogue-whos-putins-favourite-philosopher-3829SiTsfS8P7UK19PwT4k


Putin's philosopher, Aleksandr Dugin, has been written about. See:
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=aleksandr+dugin

Here is an interesting book from Amazon: "The American Empire Should Be Destroyed": Alexander Dugin and the Perils of Immanentized Eschatology
https://www.amazon.com/American-Empire-Should-Destroyed-Immanentized/d
p/1891469436
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"All too often, history is driven by the mad passions and ambitions of tyrants — and by warped visions of "progress" crafted in the shadows behind their thrones. James Heiser's brilliant new book drags one of today's most dangerous "gray eminences" into the light. His careful, intricate analysis reveals Aleksandr Dugin, whose twisted ideology shapes Vladimir Putin’s brutal and aggressive effort to build a Eurasian empire centered on Russia. This is a must-read for anyone who wants to understand the perilous and irrational motivations of those who now rule in Moscow."

Putin won't clearly state his ultimate goals because he is sly and crafty, but his philosopher, like all philosophers, will expound in great detail on what Russia should ultimately become -- the ruler of all Eurasia, the vast continent, biggest in the world.

Download the free book "The American Empire Should Be Destroyed" from the mirrors at https://libgen.unblockit.day/search.php?req=The+American+Empire+Should
+Be+Destroyed



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, March 15, 2022 6:16 PM

"Murder"?

You should talk!

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Tuesday, March 15, 2022 6:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
"Murder"?

You should talk!

Where is the proof? There is actual proof Russia killed civilians, but in our silly world run by lawyers, not by engineers, nobody brings the corpses as evidence. Instead, there are endless words thrown back and forth on TV. Somebody should bring the murdered corpses to the UN and throw the corpses on top of the Russian ambassador. And while the UN is at it, drag Putin and his philosopher Dugin to the UN and have Putin publicly denounce Dugin for his vision of Russian conquest of Eurasia. But Putin won't be denouncing Dugin because Putin is conquering Eurasia.

None of that will happen. And Trump will not be showing his tax returns to prove he is not a crook. He will continue denying that he cheated and if the IRS won't confiscate Trump's wealth, Trump will never pay.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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THG
Tuesday, March 15, 2022 7:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

"Murder"?

You should talk!






Hey Signym, do you remember the wall? It was put in place to keep people and countries answering to one authority: Russia. When the Soviet Union collapsed these people and countries regained their autonomy and they do not want to give it up.

Russia did not own these countries then, although it acted as if it did, which is why Russia’s attempt at a NATO failed. Just as everything Russia always fails.

It is not NATO that is destroying Russia. This time, as in the past, it is being destroyed from within.


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THG
Tuesday, March 15, 2022 7:32 PM

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Tuesday, March 15, 2022 8:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
OMG I can't believe the ridiculous anti-Russian propaganda being poured into the western media.
RUSSIANS EAT BABIES FOR BREAKFAST AND ABORTED FETUSES FOR DESSERT!
CHECHENS RAPE THEIR WAY THRU MARIUPOL
RUSSIANS CONDUCT GRUESOME BIO-EXPERIMENTS ON PRISONERS!

Does anyone really believe that shit?



No.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

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