What is Putin's end game?

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, March 12, 2022 8:07 PM

The Masters must be really pleased at how easy it was to turn the Democrats into the party of war so quickly.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

THG

Saturday, March 12, 2022 8:47 PM

T

THG

Saturday, March 12, 2022 9:04 PM

The title of the thread is 'what is Putin's end game.' We need to ask kiki. Where is she, is she hiding or is she dead?

T

THG

Saturday, March 12, 2022 9:28 PM

Signym condones this. What made her such a sick person?

T

SIGNYM

Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:31 PM

You ask a question, and then you argue about the answer! It may not be the answer that you want, but it's from the Russian leadership itself, and it hasn't changed since 2000.

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Russia's leadership wants

Military and border security
Economic and financial independence from the west
Trade with reliable partners
Lack of interference in its internal politics from outside sources
Internal prosperity

If you look at Russia's ACTIONS, they serve these goals. Clearly, you don't want to know what's REALLY going on, you just want to propagandize.

Fine. Propagandize away. It's going to be a big shock when your echo chamaber is breached by reality.

Here's a hint, CAPON. And please pass this on to your DNC masters, bc they sure don't read my comments on their opinion polls:

Americans aren't all that fired up about Ukraine. When the dog takes me for a walk, I chat with my neighbors, and they NEVER bring up RUSSIA!!!

They talk about their family and their family's health, and ask me about mine.
They worry about the cost of healthcare
They talk about the price of gas.
They worry about inflation
And the fact that items are missing from the shelves
They're pissed about crime going unpunished, thanks to Dem DAs.
They're not too crazy about CRT being taught in schools, and they want Covid restrictions lifted in schools
At least half think we should have SOME sort of border control

This constant yammering about RUSSIA!RUSSIA! isn't going to help the DNC in the long run.

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Also, to be clear, I'm not too crazy about the GOP leadership either. They've climbed aboard the crazy-train too. The only people who make sense are Rand Paul and Tulsi Gabbard. It's says something really terrible about our pols if I can only find two in all of the Senate who care enough about America to tell us the truth.

It says something terrible about so many Americans that they don't care enough about themselves to learn the truth. They believe life is like a football game, where you can worm your way into the biggest group of fans and mindlessly wave your team flag and shout yourself hoarse, and then climb into another group of fans and shout yourself hoarse in that one, forgetting what you were hyperventilating about just a few minutes ago.

THAT is not a strong nation or strong people. That's weak, and unable to survive reality.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by THG:

The title of the thread is 'what is Putin's end game.' We need to ask kiki. Where is she, is she hiding or is she dead?

T

You'd love that, wouldn't you Ted.

Ted takes great pleasure when people he disagrees with die.

I've got a long list of archived links.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Sunday, March 13, 2022 7:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You ask a question, and then you argue about the answer! It may not be the answer that you want, but it's from the Russian leadership itself, and it hasn't changed since 2000.

Quote:

Russia's leadership wants

Military and border security
Economic and financial independence from the west
Trade with reliable partners
Lack of interference in its internal politics from outside sources
Internal prosperity

If you look at Russia's ACTIONS, they serve these goals.

OMG - No they do not. They certainly, provably, observably do not. Invading Ukraine and killing it's citizens is IN FACT, having the exact opposite effect. You're watching the biggest miscalculation and failure since Russia in Afghanistan. There's putting on a good face and then there's just lying to yourself over and over.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Americans aren't all that fired up about Ukraine. When the dog takes me for a walk, I chat with my neighbors, and they NEVER bring up RUSSIA!!!

They talk about their family and their family's health, and ask me about mine.
They worry about the cost of healthcare
They talk about the price of gas.
They worry about inflation
And the fact that items are missing from the shelves
They're pissed about crime going unpunished, thanks to Dem DAs.
They're not too crazy about CRT being taught in schools, and they want Covid restrictions lifted in schools
At least half think we should have SOME sort of border control

This constant yammering about RUSSIA!RUSSIA! isn't going to help the DNC in the long run.

What an obvious fiction.

Even IF true, how many neighbors do you see on a regular basis while the dog takes you for a walk? 4? 10? You should open a polling company.

Fwiw, I talk about Russia mostly on this board only, because, yanno, there be Russian fans about.

Finally, a few more tidbits spill out from SIGGY's ill brain exposing her general loathing for the US:

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Also, to be clear, I'm not too crazy about the GOP leadership either. They've climbed aboard the crazy-train too. The only people who make sense are Rand Paul and Tulsi Gabbard. It's says something really terrible about our pols if I can only find two in all of the Senate who care enough about America to tell us the truth.

It says something terrible about so many Americans that they don't care enough about themselves to learn the truth. They believe life is like a football game, where you can worm your way into the biggest group of fans and mindlessly wave your team flag and shout yourself hoarse, and then climb into another group of fans and shout yourself hoarse in that one, forgetting what you were hyperventilating about just a few minutes ago.

God forbid we should have the freedom to choose.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THAT is not a strong nation or strong people. That's weak, and unable to survive reality.

Reminds me of when a FFF poster warn me off wasting time with you and Kiki because, "they're just a couple of old Soviets."

THG

Sunday, March 13, 2022 9:51 PM

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Signym

Russia's leadership wants
Military and border security
Economic and financial independence from the west
Trade with reliable partners
Lack of interference in its internal politics from outside sources
Internal prosperity

Signym posts Russia’s demands G. Let break them down shall we.

First Military and border security ; that is what their military is in place to do. No one has challenged that. No one is trying or even thinking about invading Russia. What is happening is all the countries Russia invaded during WW2 and then refused to leave, have now reclaimed their sovereignty due to the collapse of the Soviet Union. Surly you won’t begrudge them their right to rule themselves Signym?

Economic and financial independence from the west ; again dummy, that’s exactly what is happening. The west is separating itself from Russia as fast as it can. The past two weeks the West has been honoring that request and leaving. Russia is at record speed, being given its financial independence.

Trade with reliable partners ; countries have to want to do business with Putin. Very few are willing to do that. Actually only other authoritarian regimes are willing to do that now. Germany says in one year it will be able to end its dependence on Russian oil. This is the result of them being blackmailed by Putin. Besides, the west also wants dependable trading partners. Russia showed itself to not fit the bill. One should never attack its trading partners which is what Russia keeps doing.

Lack of interference in its internal politics from outside sources ; this is impossible Signym. It’s impossible because the Russian people are always exposed to what freedom, democracy has to offer. The internet exposes them to that. It’s not a conspiracy concocted by the west. It just exposes Russians to alternatives to Putin. Innocent exposure to the way of life in the west. It’s why you’re not living in Russia; right comrade?

Ukraine being successful on the world stage and doing better all the time exposed Putin’s, their Russia for what it is. A dead end. They see what the benefits are when allowed to choose one’s own destiny. The internet cannot be stopped. Putin’s trying to stop it but failing miserably.

Internal prosperity ; go ahead. That’s something Russia has to do for itself. Its continual failure to do so is why they keep lashing out. Go back to Russia Signym and lend a hand. And stop bitching about it to us. Bitching about America doesn’t help Russia. It only makes you feel better and less like someone who’s homeland is failing miserably. Your jealousies are showing every single time you post.

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SIGNYM

Monday, March 14, 2022 12:50 AM

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Signym

Russia's leadership wants
Military and border security
Economic and financial independence from the west
Trade with reliable partners
Lack of interference in its internal politics from outside sources
Internal prosperity

THUGR: Signym posts Russia’s demands G. Let break them down shall we.

First Military and border security ; that is what their military is in place to do. No one has challenged that. No one is trying or even thinking about invading Russia.

Bullshit. The USA has been thnking abuot "first strike" capability since whenever (why do you think Poand and Romania have USA missle bases?) and fomenting instability on or in Russia's borders (Chechnya, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Belarus) and engineering economic collapse? The west has been trying to destroy Russia one way or another for decades. Isn't that what YOU'RE constantly agitating for? C'mon, man, don't weasel out of your own statements!

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THUGR... What is happening is all the countries Russia invaded during WW2 and then refused to leave, have now reclaimed their sovereignty due to the collapse of the Soviet Union. Surly you won’t begrudge them their right to rule themselves Signym?

Economic and financial independence from the west ; again dummy, that’s exactly what is happening. The west is separating itself from Russia as fast as it can. The past two weeks the West has been honoring that request and leaving. Russia is at record speed, being given its financial independence.

And Russia has been working on that since AT LEAST 2014: reducing its USD debt, creating a SWIFT-independent payment system, their own credit (MIR) card, import substitution, food independence, trade relations outside the USA/EU bloc etc.

Putin LIKES sanctions: They required him to definitively move the Russian economy away from dependence on energy exports to full-scope, and since it was the west that made it necessary he could always deflect criticism and blame us for any dislocation and hardship. The point is: Russia has been preparing for this for EIGHT YEARS.
Have we???

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THUGR... Trade with reliable partners ; countries have to want to do business with Putin. Very few are willing to do that. Actually ...

Actually, MOST of thr world is NOT sanctioning Russia.

The west has a long history of breaking contracts (Poland actually took Russia to court in order to break their long-term contracts with Russia bc they wanted to buy on the spot market. Bet they regret that now!), not paying its debts (Ukraine made off with $3 billion that it was supposed to pay back), breaking trade deals, stealing other nations' gold (aside from the outright theft of Libya's and Iraq's gold, the Bank of London just handed Venezuela's gold over to Juan "Random Guy" Guaido, and WE refuse to relese all of Germany's gold back to the German cntral bank), absconding with other nations' central bank assests, and sanctioning trade to destabilize other nations.

Russia, until now, has NEVER broken a commercial contract ... not even with Ukraine.

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THUGR: ]Lack of interference in its internal politics from outside sources ; this is impossible Signym. It’s impossible because the Russian people are always exposed to what freedom, democracy has to offer. The internet exposes them to that. It’s not a conspiracy concocted by the west. It just exposes Russians to alternatives to Putin. Innocent exposure to the way of life in the west. It’s why you’re not living in Russia; right comrade?

Russian press is freer that USA press. bc one thing the Russians wisely do is repeat all of the negative (and false) representations of Russia in western press. Russians are getting the idea that the western establishment and lapdog media really hate them, and they're getting pissed off in return.

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THUGR: Ukraine being successful on the

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