What is Putin's end game?

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CAPTAINCRUNCH

Thursday, March 10, 2022 8:28 PM

Lots of questions:

First - did he/his generals completely underestimate the task at hand, "taking Ukraine and imposing his own president?"

Or... is destruction of Ukraine the purpose? To what end? He's only driving them further away and unifying most countries against Russia.

Why did he send in old material and untrained troops?

I wonder if the whole point is to bait the West into WWIII...? Throw the world into chaos and destruction to bring down the west and while we're reeling, rebuild his world the way he wants it. I dunno - totally guessing since nothing makes sense. He'll never hold Ukraine and they aren't going to give up. Ever. And Russian people will eat his liver before too much longer. Oligarchs are going to send in hit squads soon as well. He's totally fubarred.

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JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, March 10, 2022 8:37 PM

it's hard to predict, I'm not sure he's mentally there, Joe Biden is messed up but Putin might be more crazy.

Will reply again later.

EDIT

It's difficult to see through propaganda and know what's really happening because this has been going back to Putin's plans to be remembered as some great Tsar or military leader and you also have Obama and Hunter Biden's political stuff inside Ukraine.

The problem with Ukraine is it already had a lot of Ethnic Russians and Russian speakers who felt closer to Russian culture. There are also mixes of other races and culture such as Moldovans, Belarusians, Crimean Tatars, Jewish, Arab, Bulgarians, as Ukraine started to open up and modernize more ethnic groups came in. Many speak a foreign language, Russian (15%), while 22% used both languages. A non government Ukraine think tank called the Razumkov Centre took a poll that showed that 53.3% of the respondents use the Ukrainian language in everyday life, while 44.5% use Russian, a lot of the older factories and industry was developed by Russia or the old USSR.

The Previous election? a long ago Ukrainian presidential election gives a clue how he could cut the nation in half, but if he takes the North or East teher will be regions with lots of Native Ukrainian culture

I have no idea what his objective is, the political and command structure in Russia is odd.

Some say Putin is going nuts, he is losing his mind, he took too many steroids and going paranoid about Labs or Money or NATO missiles or some other issue.

What would make sense is to have that front to the North at Belarus continue attacking the poor Ukranians who are trying to resist, to continue taking and controlling the ports to the South and maybe finally the main river running North to South which gives total control of trade.

Here are some maps that were on Spanish and Japan sites, showing where Russian attacks have come from



I hope the 21st century is forward looking but perhaps it will be ruled by Emperors, Tyrants, the Heartless Technocrats and Dictators maybe it is going to be a violent, hungry and dangerous period in human history. Here is a crude map I have done of what he could possibly do with low level resitance and without a good ground force of patriot revolutionaries fighting back.
I know some regions have new names like Donetsk and Luhansk breakway regions but there might be more breakaways coming so let's just call all breakaway regions some other name to simplify.
Let's call the gaint new Red Region inside the country 'New USSR Ukraine'



He might simply move native people out of the cities after a long siege, and transport groups of people, force language or cultures to evacuate just as Joe Stalin did. Although the bombing and fighting is brutal he has not unleashed the full power of the military, I think its a mix of incompetence but holding back as the does not want bad public relations and protest back home. A 'siege' does not mean destroying a city, it can simply cut off the electricity and food which is also hellish for people but it is without the full scale death and bombing it is a slower death by many cuts. However it leave the structures of the cities more or less intact which would give Russian culture a chance to occupy later in a land grab. If he can control Nuclear power plant he can simply siwtch off their power.

Moldova is almost smack in the middle of it now, between Russians and Romania they could join the resistance but their best move might be to stay out of it. Moldova is already one of the poorest regions on Earth, they are already paying for waves of refugees fleeing and joining a war isn't going to do their people much good.

If they take all the South the Black Sea they will choke off Ukraine, 'ChorneMore' or 'Marea Neagra' Greece likes to get acess to it by sailing ships past Turkey or sending Cars or Trucks to Bulgaria, this is the large inland s

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, March 10, 2022 9:08 PM

Why do you believe that Putin started any of this?

You haven't learned at this point that the Media is a mouthpiece for the government and they just say whatever they're told to say?

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Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

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CAPTAINCRUNCH

Thursday, March 10, 2022 10:56 PM

Quote:

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
it's hard to predict, I'm not sure he's mentally there, Joe Biden is messed up but Putin might be more crazy.

It's difficult to see through propaganda and know what's really happening because this has been going back to Putin's plans to be remembered as some great Tsar or military leader and you also have Obama and Hunter Biden's political stuff inside Ukraine.

The problem with Ukraine is it already had a lot of Ethnic Russians and Russian speakers who felt closer to Russian culture. There are also mixes of other races and culture such as Moldovans, Belarusians, Crimean Tatars, Jewish, Arab, Bulgarians, as Ukraine started to open up and modernize more ethnic groups came in. Many speak a foreign language, Russian (15%), while 22% used both languages. A non government Ukraine think tank called the Razumkov Centre took a poll that showed that 53.3% of the respondents use the Ukrainian language in everyday life, while 44.5% use Russian, a lot of the older factories and industry was developed by Russia or the old USSR.

The Previous election? a long ago Ukrainian presidential election gives a clue how he could cut the nation in half, but if he takes the North or East teher will be regions with lots of Native Ukrainian culture

I have no idea what his objective is, the political and command structure in Russia is odd.

Some say Putin is going nuts, he is losing his mind, he took too many steroids and going paranoid about Labs or Money or NATO missiles or some other issue.

What would make sense is to have that front to the North at Belarus continue attacking the poor Ukranians who are trying to resist, to continue taking and controlling the ports to the South and maybe finally the main river running North to South which gives total control of trade.

Here are some maps that were on Spanish and Japan sites, showing where Russian attacks have come from

I hope the 21st century is forward looking but perhaps it will be ruled by Emperors, Tyrants, the Heartless Technocrats and Dictators maybe it is going to be a violent, hungry and dangerous period in human history. Here is a crude map I have done of what he could possibly do with low level resitance and without a good ground force of patriot revolutionaries fighting back.
I know some regions have new names like Donetsk and Luhansk breakway regions but there might be more breakaways coming so let's just call all breakaway regions some other name to simplify.
Let's call the gaint new Red Region inside the country 'New USSR Ukraine'

He might simply move native people out of the cities after a long siege, and transport groups of people, force language or cultures to evacuate just as Joe Stalin did. Although the bombing and fighting is brutal he has not unleashed the full power of the military, I think its a mix of incompetence but holding back as the does not want bad public relations and protest back home. A 'siege' does not mean destroying a city, it can simply cut off the electricity and food which is also hellish for people but it is without the full scale death and bombing it is a slower death by many cuts. However it leave the structures of the cities more or less intact which would give Russian culture a chance to occupy later in a land grab. If he can control Nuclear power plant he can simply siwtch off their power.

Moldova is almost smack in the middle of it now, between Russians and Romania they could join the resistance but their best move might be to stay out of it. Moldova is already one of the poorest regions on Earth, they are already paying for waves of refugees fleeing and joining a war isn't going to do their people much good.

If they take all the South the Black Sea they will choke off Ukraine, 'ChorneMore' or 'Marea Neagra' Greece likes to get acess to it by sailing ships past Turkey or sending Cars or Trucks to Bulgaria, this is the large inland sea situated at the southeastern extremity of Europe with Ukraine to i

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