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Monday, January 24, 2022 7:15 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Fuck the NSBA for deleting evidence.

And Fuck AP for trying to cover for them.

And Fuck YOU for being a dumbass Leftist muppet tool.

Liars.

Wisconsin has an answer to that:



No, no, no. Don't change the subject.

I want you on record right here saying that the NSBA deleted evidence, that the AP "fact checkers" lied and tried to cover it up, and that you were parroting those lies that the AP and other Legacy Media outlets were feeding you on the issue.

Until you do all of that, you've revoked your own right to even discuss this issue any further.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Monday, January 24, 2022 8:04 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Fuck the NSBA for deleting evidence.

And Fuck AP for trying to cover for them.

And Fuck YOU for being a dumbass Leftist muppet tool.

Liars.

Wisconsin has an answer to that:



No, no, no. Don't change the subject.

I want you on record right here saying that the NSBA deleted evidence, that the AP "fact checkers" lied and tried to cover it up, and that you were parroting those lies that the AP and other Legacy Media outlets were feeding you on the issue.

Until you do all of that, you've revoked your own right to even discuss this issue any further.

Let me refresh your memory of the story you did NOT bother to read because EVERYTHING is too long; didn't read for you:

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Fuck the NSBA for deleting evidence.

And Fuck AP for trying to cover for them.

And Fuck YOU for being a dumbass Leftist muppet tool.

Liars.

Wisconsin has an answer to that: Republicans vote to allow 18-year-olds and their parents to carry concealed weapons on school property

No reasonable person would say parents are terrorizing teachers when it becomes legal to bring a concealed gun to a parent/teacher meeting.


MADISON, Wis. (CBS 58) -- Republicans in the state Assembly passed a series of bills to expand gun laws in the badger state, including a proposal to allow some high school students and parents to have firearms on school property.

During the Assembly's return to the floor since the new year, Republicans passed legislation that would lower the concealed carry age from 21 to 18, allow legal gun owners to have their weapon in their vehicle when dropping off or picking up their child from school, and allow anyone with a concealed carry license from any state to be armed in Wisconsin.

With gun violence on the rise in Wisconsin and across the nation, Republicans believe more residents should be able to carry a gun legally to protect themselves.

State Rep. Shae Sortwell (R-Two Rivers), author of the bill to lower the concealed carry age, contends if 18-year-olds can vote, they should be allowed to arm themselves.

"They are mature enough, they are adult enough to make these decisions and yet we are going to deny them the basic human right of self-defense?" Sortwell said.

Democrats argue the measure would backfire and result in inexperienced gun owners.

When applying for a concealed carry permit, state law doesn't require someone to actually fire a weapon.

"Guns in these situations do not make people feel safer," said Rep. Lisa Subeck (D-Madison). "In this state, you can get a concealed carry permit and never once get any hands-on firing a gun and that's terrifying."

State Rep. Deb Andraca (D-Whitefish Bay) called the GOP bills ridiculous because it would allow high school seniors with concealed carry permits to have a loaded gun in their car and at school events.

"This makes absolutely no sense, and quite frankly is scary to every parent with children," Andraca said.

Sortwell admitted his bill would lead to more guns on school property, but believes it's a "common sense" measure to avoid people breaking the law.

Currently, schools are specifically excluded from the state's concealed carry law, and individuals can face a felony if they possess a firearm on school property.

Republicans are looking to please their base this election year by introducing proposals like these, that are likely doomed for Governor Tony Evers' veto pen.

When asked, Evers said the GOP efforts to expand guns rights are "pretty bizarre," during a press event at the Capitol.

Evers and Democrats have long advocated for more gun control measures, such as universal background checks and red flag laws to allow judges to temporarily take away guns from people who pose a thr

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Monday, January 24, 2022 8:50 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Fuck the NSBA for deleting evidence.

And Fuck AP for trying to cover for them.

And Fuck YOU for being a dumbass Leftist muppet tool.

Liars.

Wisconsin has an answer to that:



No, no, no. Don't change the subject.

I want you on record right here saying that the NSBA deleted evidence, that the AP "fact checkers" lied and tried to cover it up, and that you were parroting those lies that the AP and other Legacy Media outlets were feeding you on the issue.

Until you do all of that, you've revoked your own right to even discuss this issue any further.



I didn't stutter.

Fuck your story.

Tell everyone that you were duped.

I was man enough to admit it when Memeology got things wrong twice.

Tell us that you recognize that the AP "factcheckers" lied to you and that you were a part of perpetuating that lie.


And after you've done that, don't forget that this is a thing that they do.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 8:20 PM

Lindy Li @lindyli

(Fox News Host) Tucker Carlson is upset that an M&M got new shoes

(GOP Senator) Ted Cruz was upset Big Bird encouraged kids to get vaxxed

(Bush Advisor) Matt Schlapp was upset there’s now an Asian American Sesame St muppet

They were upset about Mr Potato Head & Dr Seuss

But a terrorist attack on our Capitol? No big deal

9:53 PM · Jan 21, 2022 from Philadelphia, PA·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/lindyli/status/1484736061964173313

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 8:25 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Lindy Li @lindyli

(Fox News Host) Tucker Carlson is upset that an M&M got new shoes

(GOP Senator) Ted Cruz was upset Big Bird encouraged kids to get vaxxed

(Bush Advisor) Matt Schlapp was upset there’s now an Asian American Sesame St muppet

They were upset about Mr Potato Head & Dr Seuss

But a terrorist attack on our Capitol? No big deal

9:53 PM · Jan 21, 2022 from Philadelphia, PA·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/lindyli/status/1484736061964173313

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




Good on you for changing the subject since you got your ass handed to you again.

Shame on you for still dragging January 6th around like there was anything that happened on that day.

You're so pathetic.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 8:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Fuck the NSBA for deleting evidence.

And Fuck AP for trying to cover for them.

And Fuck YOU for being a dumbass Leftist muppet tool.

Liars.

Wisconsin has an answer to that:



No, no, no. Don't change the subject.

I want you on record right here saying that the NSBA deleted evidence, that the AP "fact checkers" lied and tried to cover it up, and that you were parroting those lies that the AP and other Legacy Media outlets were feeding you on the issue.

Until you do all of that, you've revoked your own right to even discuss this issue any further.



I didn't stutter.

Fuck your story.

Tell everyone that you were duped.

I was man enough to admit it when Memeology got things wrong twice.

Tell us that you recognize that the AP "factcheckers" lied to you and that you were a part of perpetuating that lie.


And after you've done that, don't forget that this is a thing that they do.

--------------------------------------------------

Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

Here is another you won't read, but I read it and it didn't take 13 minutes. Only two. Got two minutes?

National School Boards Association stumbles into politics and is blasted apart
Laura Meckler
13-17 minutes
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/01/13/school-board-assoc
iation-domestic-terrorism
/

Now, the association is at risk of total collapse.

In between, conservative think tanks, media, intellectuals, lawmakers, researchers and activists turned what might have been a forgotten mistake into a potentially fatal blow to a group that has for eight decades been a national advocate for public education.

It is a perfect illustration of how polarized education has become in the past year — a case study in how activists can shape not just big public policy debates, but also obscure interest groups that most Americans had never given a moment’s consideration.

Nineteen mostly GOP-led states have withdrawn from the association or promised to when this year’s membership expires, and six members of what was a 19-person board have left. Several states are discussing forming an alternative association for school boards. A new executive director of the National School Boards Association (NSBA) is working to save the organization, lobbying individual states to reconsider, but so far he has not persuaded any of them to change their minds.

“I hope they’ll give us a chance,” John Heim, the newly installed executive director, said in an interview. His goal, he said, is to “rebuild trust” in the association, which critics believe took sides in a partisan debate.

In October, the association apologized and promised to conduct a “formal review” of its procedures and said it would announce “specific improvements” to ensure better coordination and consultation with its members, but nothing has been announced and a spokesperson would not say where the group is in this process.

If the school board association’s goal was to tamp down conservative parent protests, it had the exact opposite effect, galvanizing a movement that coalesced last fall around the idea of parental rights. The letter shifted the focus away from some frightening threats and decidedly aggressive behavior to a defiant defense of free speech and local control.

Even some supporters of the NSBA said the letter went too far and put them in an uncomfortable position.

“There has been some damage done,” said Jim Green, executive director of the Oregon School Boards Association. Oregon did not terminate

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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 9:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Fuck the NSBA for deleting evidence.

And Fuck AP for trying to cover for them.

And Fuck YOU for being a dumbass Leftist muppet tool.

Liars.

Wisconsin has an answer to that:



No, no, no. Don't change the subject.

I want you on record right here saying that the NSBA deleted evidence, that the AP "fact checkers" lied and tried to cover it up, and that you were parroting those lies that the AP and other Legacy Media outlets were feeding you on the issue.

Until you do all of that, you've revoked your own right to even discuss this issue any further.



I didn't stutter.

Fuck your story.

Tell everyone that you were duped.

I was man enough to admit it when Memeology got things wrong twice.

Tell us that you recognize that the AP "factcheckers" lied to you and that you were a part of perpetuating that lie.


And after you've done that, don't forget that this is a thing that they do.

--------------------------------------------------

Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

Here is another you won't read, but I read it and it didn't take 13 minutes. Only two. Got two minutes?



Nope. Not for any of the bullshit you want people to read.

NSBA tried and failed to delete evidence.

AP and other Legacy Media tried and failed to cover it up.

Idiots like you tried and failed to spread that false narrative.

Fuck the NSBA. Fuck the AP. Fuck the Legacy Media. Fuck you.

There are four lights.

Have a nice day.



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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Wednesday, January 26, 2022 5:15 PM

Groundbreaking work on slave economy finally back on UK shelves

Americans note that the British Empire abolished slavery WITHOUT a Civil War.

Slavery was abolished in much of the British empire in 1833 because doing so at that time was in Britain’s economic self-interest – not because the British suddenly discovered a conscience.

The capitalists had first encouraged West Indian slavery and then helped to destroy it. In the early 19th century, slave-owning sugar planters in the Caribbean British colonies enjoyed a monopoly on the supply of sugar to Britain, because of an imperial tax policy of protectionism. Williams argues: “When British capitalism depended on sugar and cotton plantations in the West Indies, they [the capitalists] ignored slavery or defended it. When British capitalism found the West Indian monopoly on sugar a nuisance, they destroyed West Indian slavery as the first step in the destruction of West Indian monopoly.”

In great detail, he lays out the scale of the wealth and industry that was created in Britain, not just from the slave plantations and in the sugar refineries and cotton mills, but by building and insuring slave ships, manufacturing goods transported to the colonies – including guns, manacles, chains and padlocks – and then banking and reinvesting the profits.

It was all this wealth created by slavery in the 17th and 18th centuries that powered the Industrial Revolution in the 19th century, Williams argued. And it was this economic change that meant the preferential sugar duties – which artificially pushed up the price of sugar in the UK, a deliberate policy that had once so suited the many wealthy British families involved in the slave trade – came to be seen by 19th-century industrialists as an “unpopular” barrier to free trade, low factory wages and global domination.

The book, to be published by Penguin Modern Classics on 24 February, also traces the emergence of the slave trade in the 16th century when the demand for labour exceeded the number of white convicts and poor, white, indentured servants willing to work the land cheaply. “A racial twist has been given to what is basically an economic phenomenon. Slavery was not born of racism: rather, racism was the consequence of slavery,” he writes.

More at https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/23/eighty-years-late-ground
breaking-work-on-slave-economy-is-finally-published-in-uk


Download the book by Eric Williams Capitalism and Slavery for free from mirrors at https://libgen.unblockit.how/search.php?req=Capitalism+and+Slavery

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, January 26, 2022 7:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Nope. Not for any of the bullshit you want people to read.

NSBA tried and failed to delete evidence.

AP and other Legacy Media tried and failed to cover it up.

Idiots like you tried and failed to spread that false narrative.

Fuck the NSBA. Fuck the AP. Fuck the Legacy Media. Fuck you.

There are four lights.
(6ix is referring to the four lights mime.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=there%20are%20four%20l
ights

https://www.google.com/search?q=there+are+four+lights+meme )

Triggering the angry snowflake children of the right lacking emotional resilience

As Ted Cruz found not long ago when he dared to call the 6 January Capitol attack an act of “terrorism”, anyone who strokes this shark’s skin the wrong way will immediately have their flesh stripped to the bone. On the surface, the network’s atavistic fury at those who do wrong looks like righteous anger – but look a little harder and it really resembles nothing so much as the petulance of a bullying child, a playground tyrant who cannot keep their temper when the rest of the world behaves in ways they can’t control.

The problem, of course, is that violent nine-year-olds don’t have millions of viewers, and generally aren’t hellbent on convincing their friends that white people are being “replaced”, that rigorously tested Covid-19 vaccines are less safe than horse dewormer, or that the government staged a violent attack on itself in order to round up “half the country”.

What they do share with the likes of Carlson and his coterie is an extremely loose relationship with accountability. There isn’t much daylight between “I didn’t kick him, he ran into my foot” and “I didn’t tell people to take hydroxychloroquine, they just misinterpreted my enthusiastic promotion of it as an endorsement”.

Likewise, for all its umbrage at the words Biden carelessly muttered about Doocy, Fox News will never, ever accept any responsibility for what it and the wider right have wrought – the degradation of civil discourse, the radicalization of millions of “conservative” Americans, the increasingly successful assault on truth itself.

The monster that Fox News has become is not just some out-of-control genetic experiment gone awry. It’s the product of years, even decades, of deliberate work. Certainly, some of its more grounded hosts may have washed their hands of it in recent years, but the other leading names now have the benefit of an terrifyingly loyal base, one whose members are angrier and more zealous than ever.

What’s missing, though, is the integrity that would lend the right some true emotional resilience. Fuming away in the inner sanctum is an extraordinarily vulnerable id, one that cannot but lash out at anyone who holds up a mirror to its angry, childish face. That it’s been this easily triggered by a president it portrays as a weak, senile fool says it all.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220126134605/https://www.independent.co.
uk/voices/fox-news-biden-peter-doocy-sob-b2000782.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, January 26, 2022 7:38 PM

Harris County Commissioners Court should stay the course on the historic misdemeanor bail reforms it agreed to two years ago last July. Those changes have all but eliminated the use of cash bail in keeping defendants in nonviolent misdemeanor cases out of the crowded county jail while they await trial.

The new system, adopted after years of costly litigation over a lawsuit brought on behalf of indigent inmates in 2016, is both fairer and a more efficient management of the county’s criminal justice resources. People charged with minor crimes, who pose no threat of flight or harm to the community, simply should not be required to sit in jail for weeks, months or even years before they receive a trial simply because they cannot afford to post even small bonds. Nor should such defendants be pressured into early guilty pleas in order to return to their jobs or families.

And yet that’s exactly what was happening in Harris County prior to the commissioners' historic 3-2 vote on July 31, 2019, agreeing to the bail reforms. Similar concerns have been raised across the country, including in Dallas County, where a nearly identical federal case took a surprise turn recently.

That Dallas case, decided in favor of bail reform, had already been affirmed by a three-judge panel of the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals when justices on that circuit decided to rehear it en banc, a rare step that means all 17 justices of the circuit sit together to hear a case anew. Their decision, released Jan. 7, overturned the Dallas decision and voided key procedural elements of the Houston case, too. Sixteen of the judges participated in the case, and nine agreed to its major holding.

That new ruling has led some longtime opponents of Harris County’s bail to press the county to withdraw from the consent decree that settled the Harris County litigation in December 2019. That’s when Chief U.S. District Judge Lee H. Rosenthal accepted the compromise fashioned between the plaintiffs and defendants, which included Harris County district judges and Sheriff Ed Gonzalez. At the time, some members of the law enforcement community opposed the deal, as did Commissioner Jack Cagle, a former Harris County civil court judge.

But in issuing her ruling — known as a consent decree — Rosenthal acknowledged that critics had raised legitimate points. “The court does not question the amici and objectors’ good faith,” she wrote. “The public safety and public resource concerns they raise are important. … The proposed consent decree and settlement agreement are approved because these concerns are fully recognized and addressed.”

The recent ruling by the 5th Circuit declared that the district judges who had been such a key part of the plaintiff’s lawsuit were immune from the lawsuit all along. Their decisions on bail, the appellate court ruled, constitute action taken on behalf of the state, not the county, and as such are immune from suit, even under Sec. 1983 civil rights litigation.

That means, had the case not been settled, the judges who had initially fought the litigation would have prevailed. Cagle has asked Commissioners Court to seize on that new ruling and petition Rosenthal for permission to dissolve the consent decree. He also wants the county to stop spending the tens of millions of dollars it is expected to spend over the next several years to adopt the reforms.

His fellow commissioners should say no on both counts. For one thing, the case was settled not because the county had to settle — its appeals had not been exhausted — but because its elected officials decided it was the right thing to do.

Voters in November 2018 tossed out every Republican judge on the district bench, civil and criminal, and elected a Democratic majority on the Commissioners Court. These new officials had campaigned in support of bail reform, and once elected made haste in reaching a settlement.

Voters should be proud that they made that change, and the officials they put in office did the right thing in addressing Harris County’s overreliance on cash bail. Wh

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