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Sunday, January 9, 2022 7:27 PM

He'd just love a Civil War. Makes for great TV.

Go fuck yourself, Second.

None of you Che Guevara LARPing douchetards are going to start a war.

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Sunday, January 9, 2022 7:29 PM

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Originally posted by second:
2021 has taught me so much. Like if aliens started invading Earth, half of America would be like "no they're not." Actually, half of the country would be like "No there not"



Nice self-own, Second.

You're right.

Ted would be like "No there not. Your just two stoopid. OPPS, I hope the coal minors are OK".

Then he'd quickly lose interest in that and start telling us about the upcoming 2021 mid-term elections.



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Sunday, January 9, 2022 7:55 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
He'd just love a Civil War. Makes for great TV.

Go fuck yourself, Second.

None of you Che Guevara LARPing douchetards are going to start a war.

Since you won't read the book, I figured that Stephen Marche, who wrote The Next Civil War: Dispatches from the American Future probably would have also written an article. He did. It is pretty clear that it is not leftists that started a war. Rather it is the Confederate flag waving Trump voters who say Trump won. I know this will confuse you, mostly because all the Trump voters I know get causes and effects backwards. It is funny and sad how much trouble they cause for themselves without understanding what they did.

6ix, there is no need to even type TL;DR. Ignore reality, 6ix. All the Trump voters I know ignore reality and get angry and turn to someone like Trump or Reagan or Nixon when reality kicks them in the head because they weren't attentive. Why should you be any different?

The next US civil war is already here – we just refuse to see it
by Stephen Marche
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/04/next-us-civil-war-alread
y-here-we-refuse-to-see-it


Nobody wants what’s coming, so nobody wants to see what’s coming.

On the eve of the first civil war, the most intelligent, the most informed, the most dedicated people in the United States could not see it coming. Even when Confederate soldiers began their bombardment of Fort Sumter, nobody believed that conflict was inevitable. The north was so unprepared for the war they had no weapons.

In Washington, in the winter of 1861, Henry Adams, the grandson of John Quincy Adams, declared that “not one man in America wanted the civil war or expected or intended it”. South Carolina senator James Chestnut, who did more than most to bring on the advent of the catastrophe, promised to drink all the blood spilled in the entire conflict. The common wisdom at the time was that he would have to drink “not a thimble”.

The United States today is, once again, headed for civil war, and, once again, it cannot bear to face it. The political problems are both structural and immediate, the crisis both longstanding and accelerating. The American political system has become so overwhelmed by anger that even the most basic tasks of government are increasingly impossible.

The legal system grows less legitimate by the day. Trust in government at all levels is in freefall, or, like Congress, with approval ratings hovering around 20%, cannot fall any lower. Right now, elected sheriffs openly promote resistance to federal authority. Right now, militias train and arm themselves in preparation for the fall of the Republic. Right now, doctrines of a radical, unachievable, messianic freedom spread across the internet, on talk radio, on cable television, in the malls.

The consequences of the breakdown of the American system is only now beginning to be felt. January 6 wasn’t a wake-up call; it was a rallying cry. The Capitol police have seen threats against members of Congress increase by 107%. Fred Upton, Republican representative from Michigan, recently shared a message he had received: “I hope you die. I hope everybody in your family dies.” And it’s not just politicians but anyone involved in the running of the electoral system. Death threats have become a standard aspect of the work life of election supervisors and school board members. A third of poll workers, in the aftermath of 2020, said they felt unsafe.

Under such conditions, party politics have become mostly a distraction. The parties and the people in the parties no longer matter much, one way or the other. Blaming one side or the other offers a perverse species of hope. “If only more moderate Republicans were in office, if only bipartisanship could be restored to what it was.” Such hopes are not only reckless but irresponsible. The problem is not who is in power, but the structures of power.

The United States has burned before. The Vietnam war, civil rights protests, the ass

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Sunday, January 9, 2022 8:11 PM

You couldn't pay me to read his book. I'm not going to read his article either.


There's no reason to go to war with you Leftist retards. You're eating your own right now and destroying the Democrat party for a generation to come... At least.

Why do anything when we can just sit back and let nature take its course.

You are insignificant.



Keep talking about Trump though, as if anybody fucking cares.

If they did, the Legacy Media wouldn't be getting worse ratings than CW Superhero shows now.



And how is non-funny grifter douche Greg Gutfeld and his lame-ass Dad Jokes the fucking king of late night in 2022?

That's how much America hates you and your opinions.
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Monday, January 10, 2022 6:09 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You couldn't pay me to read his book. I'm not going to read his article either.


There's no reason to go to war with you Leftist retards. You're eating your own right now and destroying the Democrat party for a generation to come... At least.

Why do anything when we can just sit back and let nature take its course.

You are insignificant.



Keep talking about Trump though, as if anybody fucking cares.

If they did, the Legacy Media wouldn't be getting worse ratings than CW Superhero shows now.



And how is non-funny grifter douche Greg Gutfeld and his lame-ass Dad Jokes the fucking king of late night in 2022?

That's how much America hates you and your opinions.

The Confederates said the same as you about the Abolitionists. For years into the Civil War, the Confederates were winning, which proved to themselves they were superior to Abolitionists. The Confederates had a superiority complex that killed about as many Americans as Covid-19, which 6ix says 'Nobody dies of Covid-19.'
https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/civil-war-casualties

Superiority complex is a term coined by Alfred Adler in the early 1900s, as part of his school of individual psychology. A superiority complex is a defense mechanism that develops over time to help a person cope with painful feelings of inferiority. Individuals with this complex typically come across as supercilious, haughty, and disdainful toward others. They may treat others in an imperious, overbearing, and even aggressive manner.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superiority_complex

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, January 10, 2022 6:12 PM

What it will take to save American democracy?

It may be that we have exposed a flaw in the founders' Constitution. They believed that to create a political system, you did not need to ensure that people acted virtuously. "If men were angels," James Madison famously wrote, "no government would be necessary." Ambition would be made to counteract ambition -- and this system of checks and balances would preserve liberty and democracy.

But can a system work without human beings acting responsibly, even virtuously? One branch of government, Congress, is supposed to check the other. But today, for Republicans party politics trumps institutional loyalty. The real scandal of January 6 is not what happened outside the Capitol alone, it's what happened inside when a majority of House Republicans voted to overturn the valid results of a presidential election simply to curry favor with then-President Donald Trump. It is that vote, not the violence, that almost broke the American system.

More at https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/09/opinions/fareed-zakaria-the-fight-to-sa
ve-american-democracy-op-ed/index.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, January 13, 2022 8:23 PM

IRS is in crisis

Over the past decade, the IRS's budget has been slashed by nearly 20% including the adjustment for inflation. At the same time, the IRS has lost more than 33,000 full-time employees between 2010 and 2020, including 13,400 enforcement personnel.

The number of taxpayers the agency serves has increased 19% since 2010.

As of mid-December 2021, the IRS had millions of items still to address from 2020, including more than 6 million unprocessed individual returns, 2.8 million unprocessed business returns, a combined more than 2.8 million unprocessed amended individual and business returns.

Bills remain stalled in the Senate to increase IRS funding. Republicans are stalling the bills.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/irs-tax-crisis-taxpayer-advocate/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, January 14, 2022 5:57 PM

The Oldest Question in Politics

By Fareed Zakaria https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/07/10-ideas-fix-democracy/

Almost 25 years ago, I began to notice a disturbing trend in fledgling democracies. Countries in the former Soviet empire and elsewhere were holding elections, leaders were gaining power with considerable popular support—but these leaders were then acting in ways that undermined liberal democracy. They would intimidate the opposition and free press, bypass institutions and laws, and rule by executive fiat or decree. Sometimes these moves went unnoticed; often they were popular.

To describe this combination—a regime with popular support and participation that was eroding the constitutional and legal structures of good government—I coined the term “illiberal democracy.” It captured the current dilemma but also the historical reality that there have been two processes of political modernization. One process involves popular participation in politics through elections—democracy. But there has been another, deeper, and longer tradition of liberalism, which began with the Magna Carta in 1215 and aims at restraining the arbitrary power of the state to create space for individual liberty and autonomy. Britain was the most liberal state in Europe in the mid-19th century, when less than 10 percent of its population was allowed to vote. The two traditions merged quite recently in the Western world, creating liberal democracy. But the two had been historically distinct for many years.

At the time, illiberal democracies had taken hold in Russia, the Philippines, and Pakistan. I worried about the danger spreading to the West but in a much more low-key fashion. In my book The Future of Freedom: Illiberal Democracy at Home and Abroad, I devoted several chapters to the United States, describing populist tendencies that were reshaping U.S. politics, culture, and society—such as the decline of political parties and the rise of political entrepreneurs unconstrained by party tradition and history. But I have to confess that I regarded these as slow and shallow trends eroding the strength and vitality of the country, not threatening its fundamental character. Today, however, it’s clear that the United States faces a serious threat to its political system—one in some ways more profound than any since the Civil War.

To put it simply, large parts of the U.S. electorate, mostly centered in the Republican Party, no longer accept the idea of a legitimate opposition and have convinced themselves that if that opposition wins, it is by fraud and that the election is thus null and void. This kind of mentality is fundamentally opposed to liberal democracy and dangerous to its survival. It suggests the future will be filled with contested elections, efforts to suppress votes, and fights to overturn elections. Even if they fail, as happened in 2020, the lasting effect will be to delegitimize the elected president and paralyze the political system.

How did we get here so quickly? There is much study needed for the rise and deepening of U.S. partisanship, which is now as much a cultural as a political divide. But what has struck me has been the inadequacy of one of the core ideas of the American founding. James Madison, the most important architect of the U.S. political system, was deeply enamored by the Enlightenment thinkers who saw politics as a science. They imagined a system of checks and balances producing good government almost as a machine with wheels and pulleys could produce motion or transfer energy. They did not expect people to be wise or virtuous. “If men were angels,” Madison famously wrote in the Federalist Papers, “no government would be necessary.” Madison built a system, he believed, that did not require virtue to function. “Ambition must be made to counteract ambition,” he urged, and from this conflict of interest would come ordered liberty and democracy. This American model became the template for much of the world.

In the United States and around the world, we are now witnessing experiments in po

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Friday, January 14, 2022 9:52 PM

This thread has become my morning source of comic relief.

Thanks for the laughs, Second.



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Saturday, January 15, 2022 4:50 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
This thread has become my morning source of comic relief.

Thanks for the laughs, Second.

Then you will love this next one, which is about your kind and their weirdness:

We found the one group of Americans who are most likely to spread fake news.

Using statistical analysis, we found that the only reliable explanation was a general desire for chaos — that is, a motivation to disregard, disrupt, and take down existing social and political institutions as a means of asserting the dominance and superiority of one’s own group. Participants indicated their appetite for chaos by using a scale to express how much they agreed with statements like, “I think society should be burned to the ground.”

(Other questions probing a general desire for chaos:

“I fantasize about a natural disaster wiping out most of humanity such that a small group of people can start all over”

“Sometimes I just feel like destroying beautiful things”

“There is no right and wrong in the world”

“We cannot fix the problems in our social institutions, we need to tear them down and start over” )

More at https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/01/14/we-found-the-one-gro
up-of-americans-who-are-most-likely-to-spread-fake-news-526973



Researchers from Denmark's Aarhus University and Temple University were interested in why people spread "hostile political rumors" online. One explanation is that in an increasingly polarized age, partisans are more likely to share nasty bits of gossip—true or not—about their political opponents. But the paper's authors favor a much more disturbing conclusion: The impulse to share hateful rumors "are associated with 'chaotic' motivations to 'burn down' the entire established democratic 'cosmos'… This extreme discontent is associated with motivations to share hostile political rumors, not because such rumors are viewed to be true but because they are believed to mobilize the audience against disliked elites."

More at https://www.vice.com/en/article/evjzkn/a-shocking-number-of-americans-
want-to-just-let-them-all-burn


If I was running the survey measuring a general desire for chaos, the question I would ask is: How strongly do you agree that Armageddon, as foretold in the Bible, will happen soon, where God destroys all the wicked people and the only happy people left alive are like yourself? The stronger your desire/belief in Armageddon, the stronger is your general desire for chaos.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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