Another Putin Disaster
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UPDATED: Wednesday, August 26, 2026 22:07
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Quote:It was Trump rewriting history and the media was following Trump's lead in reporting. There was a lawyer, unlike reporters, who asked pointed questions of Trump.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THE MEDIA couldn't stop talking about collusion.
It all started with the so-called Steele "dossier" on Buzzfeed, "kompromat", "golden showers", and the infamous Trump Tower server that was "communicating" with a Russian bank and went downhill from there.
Once again, you're rewriting history.
Robert Mueller asked Trump about Ukraine:
f. What role, if any, did you have in changing the Republican Party platform regarding arming Ukraine during the Republican National Convention? Prior to the convention, what information did you have about this platform provision? After the platform provision was changed, who told you about the change, when did they tell you, what were you told about why it was changed, and who was involved?
g. On July 27, 2016, in response to a question about whether you would recognize Crimea as Russian territory and lift sanctions on Russia, you said: "We'll be looking at that. Yeah, we'll be looking." Did you intend to communicate by that statement or at any other time during the campaign a willingness to lift sanctions and/or recognize Russia's annexation of Crimea if you were elected?
What consideration did you give to lifting sanctions and/or recognizing Russia's annexation of Crimea if you were elected? Describe who you spoke with about this topic, when, the substance of the discussion(s).
What were Trump’s answers? Nothing, which is extremely odd because the GOP platform was rewritten to give Putin everything he would ever want:
Trump’s Response to Question IV, Part (f)
I have no recollection of the details of what, when, or from what source l first learned about the change to the platform amendment regarding arming Ukraine, but I generally recall learning of the issue as part of media reporting. I do not recall being involved in changing the language to the amendment.
Trump’s Response to Question IV, Part (g)
My statement did not communicate any position.
See page 437 of 448 “Report on the Investigation into Russian Interference in the 2016 Presidential Election”
https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/download
Trump made changes that he doesn’t talk about. See changes to 2016 GOP platform Ukraine
https://www.google.com/search?q=changes+to+2016+gop+platform+ukraine
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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So you're STILL trying to smear Trump with "collusion", even as you deny that's what it it was about?
Yanno, in a way you're like THUGR: HE can't seem to stop posting about Putin, you can't seem to stop obsessing about Trump
P.
Jeez, get your head fixed.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Mueller's report: there was no 'collusion' ("conspiracy or coordination") between Trump and RUSSIA!!!/Putin.
Trump is completely off the hook, despite all the endless days on days of breathless reporting of completely made-up stuff like the Steele 'Dossier', the non-existent computer 'pinging', the wiretapping of Trump campaign advisor Carter Page not to mention the FIB's denial of said wiretapping, the Trump Tower meeting, and so on. There was literally non-stop coverage for months of stuff that turned out to be fabricated out of thin air.
And you believed it. You still believe it. Worse, you still quote the liars that lied to you the first several thousand times.
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Quote:The term collusion, despite it frequent use, has no actual legal definition outside of antitrust law, Signym.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So you're STILL trying to smear Trump with "collusion", even as you deny that's what it it was about?
Yanno, in a way you're like THUGR: HE can't seem to stop posting about Putin, you can't seem to stop obsessing about Trump
P.
Jeez, get your head fixed.
Where the Heck Did the Term 'Collusion' Come From?
https://www.lawfareblog.com/where-heck-did-term-collusion-come
I keep forgetting you probably won't click links, and if you did, you won't understand what you read and yet I will quote the first paragraph about the Term 'Collusion': On the June 21 episode of Preet Bharara’s podcast, “Stay Tuned with Preet,” a listener called in to ask about the legal meaning of the word “collusion.” Bharara and his two guests were quick to set the record straight; the term collusion, despite it frequent use, has no actual legal definition outside of antitrust law. Instead, Bharara raised a different question for his guests: If collusion has no legal meaning in the context of the Russia investigation, then “why has the word … captured everyone’s attention?” What’s more, how did a word with no legal relevance to the case become so associated with the Trump-Russia allegations?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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'collusion' ("conspiracy or coordination")
Yep, Trump and campaign associates were completely exonerated of "conspiracy or coordination"!
But you believed the lies. You still do.
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Quote:Nah, he doesn't believe the lies, he just spreads them.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
'collusion' ("conspiracy or coordination")
Yep, Trump and campaign associates were completely exonerated of "conspiracy or coordination"!
But you believed the lies. You still do.
He'll change his story/ move goalposts/ contradict himself/ rewrite history AGAIN, tomorrow. Whatever he needs to do to serve his endless, pointless hate.
But, enuf of SECOND! He's stupid and boring!
I keep waiting for one of these disasters to happen. If Putin keeps having disasters like this, pretty soon he'll control the world!
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Quote:There was Russian Interference with the 2016 Election. Putin denied interfering, but that is a lie. Trump obstructed Mueller's Investigation of Russian Interference. Trump denied obstructing, but that is a lie, too. Mueller documented numerous efforts by Trump and his associates that prevented his team from gathering the evidence that it sought. Despite Attorney General William Barr’s characterization of the White House as “fully cooperative with the Special Counsel’s investigation,” the Mueller report paints a different picture. Mueller wrote about numerous instances in which witnesses lied or withheld information, deleted communications and used encrypted messaging applications. Other practical obstacles prevented Mueller from completing his investigation, including some witnesses’ refusal to answer questions on the basis of their Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
'collusion' ("conspiracy or coordination")
Yep, Trump and campaign associates were completely exonerated of "conspiracy or coordination"!
But you believed the lies. You still do.
https://www.justsecurity.org/64679/did-trump-and-his-team-successfully
-obstruct-muellers-investigation/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:The Soviet Union broke apart because of its poor economic performance.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I keep waiting for one of these disasters to happen. If Putin keeps having disasters like this, pretty soon he'll control the world!
How well is the New Russia's economic performance compared to the USA? Not so good.
Russia needs breaking up:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=Lbxl
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"Russia needs breaking up,"
Isn't that for the Russians to decide?
Or do you figure that you have the right to decide how to run the whole world?
With your kind of attitude, no wonder Putin is antsy about security!
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Quote:What Putin is attempting to do to Ukraine, he already has done to Russian republics. Putin has not asked Ukrainians for their permission, just like Putin didn't ask the citizens of the Russian republics for their permission. Putin did all the deciding, not the citizens, with an Army to back his decisions. It is really too bad that Putin doesn't know how to run the Russian economy, but he does know how to intimidate his citizens and Ukrainians.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
"Russia needs breaking up,"
Isn't that for the Russians to decide?
Or do you figure that you have the right to decide how to run the whole world?
With your kind of attitude, no wonder Putin is antsy about security!
According to its constitution, Russia is divided into 85 federal subjects, 22 of which are republics. Republics were meant to be nominally independent regions of Soviet Russia with the right to self-determination. At the turn of the century, Vladimir Putin's centralization reforms steadily eradicated all autonomy the republics had with the exception of Chechnya. The bilateral agreements were abolished and in practice all power rests with the federal government. With the termination of the final bilateral treaty in 2017, some commentators expressed that Russia ceased to be a federation.
Republics of Russia
1. Adygea
2. Altai
3. Bashkortostan
4. Buryatia
5. Chechnya
6. Chuvashia
7. Crimea
8. Dagestan
9. Ingushetia
10. Kabardino-Balkaria
11. Kalmykia
12. Karachay-Cherkessia
13. Karelia
14. Khakassia
15. Komi
16. Mari El
17. Mordovia
18. North Ossetia–Alania
19. Sakha
20. Tatarstan
21. Tuva
22. Udmurtia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republics_of_Russia
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