Another Putin Disaster
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Has Putin backed himself into a corner?
Putin’s ultimatum — give me Ukraine, and a say in Europe, or I may do something with all these troops — is a dangerous one. Not just because, well, war, but because it has created a situation where Putin himself has to deliver. “He has two options,” said Olga Lautman, senior fellow at the Center for European Policy Analysis, “to say, ‘never mind, just kidding,’ which will show his weakness and shows that he was intimidated by US and Europe standing together — and that creates weakness for him at home and with countries he’s attempting influence.”
“Or he goes full forward with an attack,” she said. “At this point, we don’t know where it’s going, but the prospects are very grim.”
This is the corner Putin has put himself in, which makes a walk-back from Russia seem difficult to fathom.
https://www.vox.com/22894163/russia-ukraine-putin-biden-nato
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Are you saying that all of the antiwar protesters in the 60s and 70s were Russian?
That everyone who was against Reagan's invasion of Grenada and his Iran-Contra scheme were Russian?Quote:
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Putin is facing a binary choice. Invade versus Not. I am unconvinced Putin will make the superior choice from looking at other choices he has made in Ukraine.
https://www.google.com/search?q=russia+shoots+down+dutch+plane
This and rest of comrade Signyms' post are all noise designed to shift blame away from Putin. Change the topic. In other words, a word salad, dribble. Her posts have nothing to do with current events.
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Military trainers, missiles and over 200,000 lbs of lethal aid: What NATO members have sent Ukraine so far
Last December, the White House authorized a $200 million security assistance package that provides Ukraine with small arms and ammunition, secure radios, medical equipment and spare parts. Other lethal equipment, including Javelin antitank missiles and other anti-armor artillery, as well as heavy machine guns, also were included. The U.S. Embassy in Kyiv said late Friday that a first shipment of nearly 200,000 pounds of lethal aid had recently arrived in Ukraine.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/military-trainers-missiles-and-ov
er-200-000-lbs-of-lethal-aid-what-nato-members-have-sent-ukraine-so-far/ar-AAT1KEH?ocid=msedgntp
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That's nice. We know how much you love war, Ted.
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US sends aircraft carrier group to Mediterranean as Russia threat looms
The U.S. military has sent the USS Harry S. Truman aircraft carrier strike group to take part in a NATO naval exercise in the Mediterranean amid tensions between the West and Russia, the Pentagon's top spokesperson announced Friday.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-sends-aircraft-carrier-group-t
o-mediterranean-as-russia-threat-looms/ar-AAT1oMa?ocid=msedgntp
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If Russia invades Ukraine, what happens next?
It would appear to be setting the stage for a repeat of U.S. support for another insurgency — one that led to the denouement of the 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Both Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin and Chair of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Mark A. Milley have warned their Russian counterparts that any incursion would be followed by an insurgency. But it’s a policy with significant cost, and a move likely to leave a shattered country in its wake.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/if-russia-invades-ukraine-what-ha
ppens-next/ar-AAT1V8t?ocid=msedgntp
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Quote:It has absolutely zero, nada, zip, zilch, goose egg, to do with US security. And that's why I don't care.
If Russia invades Ukraine ...
Why do you? Is it because you're so stuck on Putin you just can't help yourself?
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Quote:Putin threatened to nuke the USA over Ukraine, 1kiki.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:It has absolutely zero, nada, zip, zilch, goose egg, to do with US security. And that's why I don't care.
If Russia invades Ukraine ...
Why do you? Is it because you're so stuck on Putin you just can't help yourself?
21 Dec 2021 -- Today Dmitry Kiselyov, a media mogul known as Putin’s mouthpiece, warned US-led aggression could lead to a nuclear war.
He told NATO to back off, adding: “Otherwise, everyone will be turned into radioactive ash”.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vladimir-putin-warns-nato-eve
ryone-25759453
That is NOT the first time Putin used Threats of Nuclear War
Threats of War and Nuclear War: Putin’s Effort to Revive the Soviet Union
https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2022/01/18/threats_of_war_an
d_nuclear_war_putins_effort_to_revive_the_soviet_union_812521.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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The Vineyard of the Saker
A Short-Term Geopolitical Forecast
18691 Views January 20, 2022 102 Comments
By Dmitry Orlov and posted with the author’s permission
Ever since Putin announced his demands for security guarantees from the US and NATO (in brief, stop NATO’s eastward expansion, have NATO retreat to its positions of 1997 and remove offensive weapons from Russia’s immediate vicinity) we have been subjected to a barrage of irrelevancies from Western press:
• Are these security guarantees an ultimatum or a negotiating tool?
• Will the US and NATO agree to them or reject them?
• Will Putin invade the Ukraine or will he be stopped in his tracks through the judicious and timely use of frowning, head-shaking, finger-wagging and tisk-tisking by sundry and assorted Western luminaries?
• If Putin does invade the Ukraine, does this mean that World War III is finally upon us and we shall all surely die?
I hope that I am not alone in being sick and tired of this pathetic, tiresome attempt to throw up a smokescreen and hide the inevitable reality of what is about to unfold. In case it isn’t completely clear to you yet, I would like to spell it all out. I am normally more cautious when making specific predictions, but in this case our immediate future has been carefully plotted out for us by Russia and China, with the US and its assorted puppets reduced to the status of non-playable characters in a video game who can only do one thing: hide behind a dense smokescreen of risible lies.
First, Russian security guarantee demands are not ultimatums. An ultimatum is an “or else” sort of thing, offering a choice between compliance and consequences, whereas in this case both the noncompliance and the consequences will follow automatically. The West and NATO are, for well understood internal political reasons, unable to sign these guarantees; therefore, the consequences will unfold in due course.
Russia has demanded that both the US and NATO put their refusal to agree to the security guarantees in writing; these pieces of paper will be important moving forward. To understand why, we need to take on board the fact that everything within these security guarantees has already been agreed to by the West; namely, the “not an inch to the east” guarantee given to the Russians by the US 30 years ago and the collective security principle agreed to by all members of the OSCE. By signing a document in which they declare their refusal to abide by what they previously agreed to, the US and NATO would essentially declare themselves to be apostates from international law and order. This, in turn, would imply that their own security needs can be disregarded and that instead they deserve to be humiliated and punished.
Further, by putting their refusal in writing, the US and NATO would declare the collective security principle itself—specifically with respect to the US and NATO—to be null and void, meaning that if, for instance, the Bahamas, a sovereign nation since July 10, 1973, decides to reinforce its sovereignty by hosting a Russian missile battery pointed across the Gulf Stream at Miami and Fort Lauderdale, Florida, the US would have no say in the matter, and if the US did try to speak up, they’d get beat up with this very piece of paper they signed. “Do you feel threatened now?” the Russians would ask; “Well, maybe you should have thought of that when you threatened us by putting your missiles in Poland and Romania.”
The initial stated purpose of the two installations of Aegis Ashore in Poland and Romania was to shoot down Iranian missiles, which didn’t exist then, don’t exist now, and never would have taken a giant detour and fly over Poland or Romania in any case. Although the stated purpose of these systems was for missile defense, their launch platforms can also be used to launch offensive strategic weapons: Tomahawk cruise missiles with nuclear payloads. These Tomahawks are obsolete and the Russians know how to shoot them down extremely well (as they demonstrated in Syria) but this is still very annoying, pl
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Quote:Putin threatened to nuke the USA over Ukraine, Signym.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Further, by putting their refusal in writing, the US and NATO would declare the collective security principle itself—specifically with respect to the US and NATO—to be null and void, meaning that if, for instance, the Bahamas, a sovereign nation since July 10, 1973, decides to reinforce its sovereignty by hosting a Russian missile battery pointed across the Gulf Stream at Miami and Fort Lauderdale, Florida, the US would have no say in the matter, and if the US did try to speak up, they’d get beat up with this very piece of paper they signed. “Do you feel threatened now?” the Russians would ask; “Well, maybe you should have thought of that when you threatened us by putting your missiles in Poland and Romania.”
21 Dec 2021 -- Today Dmitry Kiselyov, a media mogul known as Putin’s mouthpiece, warned US-led aggression could lead to a nuclear war.
He told NATO to back off, adding: “Otherwise, everyone will be turned into radioactive ash”.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vladimir-putin-warns-nato-eve
ryone-25759453
That is NOT the first time Putin used Threats of Nuclear War
Threats of War and Nuclear War: Putin’s Effort to Revive the Soviet Union
https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2022/01/18/threats_of_war_an
d_nuclear_war_putins_effort_to_revive_the_soviet_union_812521.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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