FIREFLY: THE VIRTUAL SEASON

POSTED BY: kayleeholic
UPDATED: Monday, January 27, 2003 00:33
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SENSOU

Thursday, January 16, 2003 6:05 PM

Sounds cool. Email me a copy, please?
And I agree with you on spreading it out, but Badger seems less evil than self-serving and amoral.

Sensou
Sweet is love when all is sane
Sweet is death to end the pain
Cruel is death when all is well
Cruel is love when all is hell

LOSTANGEL

Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:45 PM

Yeah! I have friends here after all! I was afraid that after the latest bombshell, everyone picked up their bats and balls and went home without me.

I will do what I can. There is some REALLY good stuff here. I have to agree that Badger is more self-serving than evil, but he can be self-serving in an evil sort of way.

I will post it as soon as I can. Remember, this is from everyone, so throw in the edits when you read it. (And remember that when critiquing the quality of the writing)

The problem is that I don't know how long a 1 hour show is when it's written down and scripted like this, so some may be too long, and some may be too short, but there will be more than one. Here's an assignment, can someone do something about Book? We have no idea about him, and I think that's why he's the hardest to think about.

And where's that flashback proposal scene between Wash and Zoe?

I have nothing against anybody of any persuasion (because I have a couple persuasions myself), but Joss wrote that Wash and Zoe are in passionate love with each other, and Kaylee and Simon have a thing almost going, and Mal and Inara have a tension,I can't read one more Wash/Simon or Jayne/Mal or River/Kaylee pairing. The only one I haven't seen paired in fanfics is (huh?) Inara! If there were supposed to be gay characters on the show, Joss would have written them in! (that's my only objection, and I mean it. My room mate is gay, so don't go thinking I'm homophobic)

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Lost Angel

WASH: Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction.
ZOE: We live in a space ship, dear.
WASH: So?

JADEO0

Thursday, January 16, 2003 11:40 PM

i'll have a copy

ATROPINE

Friday, January 17, 2003 6:13 AM

May I offer an idea or two?
Please forgive me if these are overwrought (being the romantic that I am!), but how about if we make Jayne confront his treason again? I was thinking that maybe the tables could be turned. Not sure how, but something like Jayne and River get caught somewhere in a deal gone bad (perhaps they are caught on the ship by folk who are out for River--maybe Early again?). River, fully knowing what lays ahead, has the opportunity to escape and leave Jayne but instead sacrifices herself so he can escape. Jayne knows that he will be blamed for this if she is not brought back--Mal will not give him another chance.

But it also leaves Jayne with quite a lot of baggage to deal with eventually. Perhaps Jayne is shocked into confessing his treason to Book. At this point we could explore Book a little more--finding out that he too was weak but found forgiveness and that lead him to his new life.

(Now of course Jayne is not about to become a monk, but it does make him face his own weakness again but this time come through it--he is sorry he did it, not just sorry he was caught.) Jayne leaves to go rescue her, without telling anyone what went on--Mal's natural thought is that it happened again--Jayne turned River in. He returns with her, she explaining the situation. Simon is mad at Jayne for "letting" this happen, but is also a bit jealous when River starts bonding with Jayne. She is grateful to Jayne and that rubs his conscience even more. At the end, Jayne maybe would confess to River--in a blunt, clumsy attempt to assuage his conscience by playing her the fool, but finds out she already knew about it somehow. (yes, this is very sketchy, just basic ideas). This dumbfounds him, leaving him in her debt (of course he is going to be crass and sloppy about this like Jayne can be--don't want him turning into a mush ball, but I think he has the type of mentality that would feel a sense of loyalty, if only temporarily, to River).

What this sort of line might do for the story: first it will give some background to Book. And it can develop Jayne just a LITTLE. It would start stretching, slowly, the ties between Simon and River. River can start attaching (platonically!! She is too damaged right now for romantic thoughts.) to Jayne, Book or both (Jayne because of his sense of duty, of admiration and a little bit of guilt and Book because he has what River needs--peace in her soul). The play on "weak vs strong (who is weak, who is strong?)" or "brilliant and troubled vs dense and relatively clear" (again, jayne can become a little more clouded with River becoming a little more clear) or simply "big vs small" can open up a lot of interesting threads. Also, with Book and River, you would also have the "weak and strong (emotionally)", or "clear and troubled". Plus, since most of the threat is centered around River, this would give Book closer to access to the spotlight. The three of them would make an interesting triad--Jayne protects her physically while Book works on her mind and emotions. Slowly Simon is moved from his position as River's moon and sky and needs to deal with that.

Plus this will allow Simon and Kaylee to develop with less baggage. There will still be that painful stretching of Simon/River but at least it can happen. As River grows stronger with the aid of Jayne and Book, she will see that Simon is longing for Kaylee and can "arrange" for that to grow. I feel that Simon will NEVER give into Kaylee while he feels that he has to be the brother/healer/protector/provider of River. I think the kiss in the airlock is a good idea, but maybe before they are caught, Simon will become overwhelmed with his sense of duty and love for River and desire for Kaylee, turning away from her. Kaylee, distraught, will be comforted and tutored by Inara (who can see that Simon DOES want Kaylee, just can't right now), and developed more as a woman instead of the little girl. Then later we can have River figure this out and start the move away from Simon--her trying to "heal" him as much as he

LEGALBEGAL

Friday, January 17, 2003 2:07 PM

Excellent story idea. I must say and the line of thinking actualk come quite closss to something Joss would pull.

A few more thoughts on the FireFly Virtual Series Project

More than one person her has mentioned a gray character and the need for the crew to find a respectable person to assign them jobs and while brainstorming an idea I had a breakthrough that I thought I would share with all of you.

Over the course of the first few episodes the crew should begin to make inroads into a independent stronghold a fringe group who hasn’t given up the fight. Mal can chose to join them for personal reasons while Inara openly voices opposition until they final make there way to the base of the resurgent independent movement.

The leader of this group should be young but wise and be well spoken and charismatic. A learned man and someone Inara finds interesting. Inside he should be much like a young Hitler with a hate for the alliance not a nationality. He should also be our gray character. Someone who will do anything for his cause including turning the good doctor and his sister over to the alliance or mal over to Niska for his support.

As for Niska himself maybe we should let him rest for a while before we bring him back and we should use him sparingly.

I will try and post a beginning to FFVS 2.01 sometime in the future for you all to read and review.

LOSTANGEL

Friday, January 17, 2003 2:15 PM

AWESOME! *jumping up and down* I always wanted to do this:

This is definitely an idea for an episode. We already know that Jayne feels guilty for doing the double-cross because of when Simon saved that man in the hospital (Ariel), the look on Jayne's face told us that he hadn't considered Simon in that capacity before.

We also know that he is capable of forming a bond with someone, when he watched over Kaylee when she got shot (pilot). I always wanted a Jayne/River bond to exist. Not a sexual thing, but to have Jayne protect her because its the right thing to do, and then have Jayne wrestle with the fact that he is starting to care about someone other than himself, and the scariness that it implies.

Let's face it, Jayne is capable of being more than the caveman he has shown himself to be, and that act will only go so far. This could be a facet of Jayne that could add many twists and turns into the season.

Dear LegalBegal:

Aside from loving your name, this character sounds delicious because those men are truly the scary ones. Evil guys like Niska know they're baddies and are predictable. Grey Guys like this one are that much worse because they believe they're doing this for some Good. I hate it when someone does something horrible for the Good of suchandsuch. That also means that they are most likely very left of center in the cranial dept.

Can't wait to read it!

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Lost Angel

WASH: Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction.
ZOE: We live in a space ship, dear.
WASH: So?

SARAHETC

Friday, January 17, 2003 2:20 PM

Atropine--

Outstanding ideas! If I recall correctly, you're exploring chiasmus here, right? Maybe wrong, but I know there's a name for this literary device. Where A becomes B as B becomes A and although they intersect, they remain. I think that Jayne and River interacting (non-romantically!) could be a really tremendous plot. You sketched a whole lot out, several episodes, probably, with the inevitable subplots.

I think where you really got it right on is the Simon tension. Seems to me lately, that Simon's own identity has been largely subsumed by River and the need to care for and protect River.

Gives one lots to think about.

I love talking about these ideas!!

Sarah

ILOVEJAYNE

Friday, January 17, 2003 3:10 PM

This is good stuff. I'm too whimsical in the brainpan to contribute right now, but I do want a copy.

BROWNCOAT

Friday, January 17, 2003 4:03 PM

Hey guys,

You should get a whole new website, and seriously write up some scripts! I'd be interseted in helping with hosting if I can. Someone let me know, please, you can contact me at wyldkard75@hotmail.com

P.S. Anyone heard from the cast lately? They all been released from their contracts, I take it.. :(

LOSTANGEL

Friday, January 17, 2003 4:14 PM

I wouldn't know how to do that, but I have been wondering what's to become of fireflyfans if this is the end.

If anyone has any ideas on how to do this, let me know, my email address is bigsister9874@yahoo.com, or they can post here.

Good idea!

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Lost Angel

WASH: Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction.
ZOE: We live in a space ship, dear.
WASH: So?

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