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Monday, January 17, 2022 10:35 AM
Quote:hmmmmm.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Have not looked into Boost yet. I see there is some difference of opinion on it. Just got the Dr-recommended protein drink. It has 30 g protein per bottle - that's a lot!- and almost no carbs. Never thought I'd say this, but it's too sweet! Probably has a crapton of sweetener in it. Don't know what, haven't looked at the ingredients yet. Good thing I didn't get a lot.
I have nothing against sweeteners per se, I don't think they're poison, but it's off-puttingly sweet, so I'll probably will continue with my milk+whey+ natural sweetener and fill in with 1/2 bottles of the other stuff to round out my protein to 50-60g/day and continue with squats since my thighs seem to be the weakest. I'll take a big hit next Friday and be down for 2 weeks but should recover steadily after that.
Managed to walk the dog a bit around the corner and do some bathroom tidying and cleaning,
and make a big salad for dinner - lettuce, spinach, tomato, cucumber, celery, some leftover green onions, shredded leftover parmesan (from Jan1), leftover cubed chicken, cubed ham, hardboiled egg, shaved red pepper on top. I couldn't eat it, but it sure looked tasty!
Dog is on a new diet too: raw meat, organ meat, veggies, bone meal etc and sheseems to appreciate it. She was pogoing around today looking for lizards today like a puppy!
Other than Kiki blathering out of her bung, I've never heard controversy about Boost.
I looked up your Premiere Protein. It seems to claim 24 vitamins and minerals, much of which are less than 10%, and less than 5%, and even less than 1%. If you really need 60% of your Recommended Daily Allowance of protein in liquid form and actually believe it will be absorbed in that form, then perhaps 30g is what you need. But the primary factor I saw was sucralose.
If I had any doctor who advised me to consume the poison sucralose, for any reason, I would drop that doctor.
If you want to proclaim that sucralose is not poison, then please stop beating around the bush and plainly state so, so I can stop typing to enlighten you.
Sucralose is a trichlorinate. Engineered, designed, created, and manufactured to be poison, engineered to kill living things, a pesticide. After creation, it was found to be 600 times sweeter than sugar, so they decided to pour it directly into human foods. It consists of the poisonous 3 molecules of chlorine mashed together with 1 molecule of sugar. Manufactured by industrial chemical facilities, they make plenty of profits by poisoning humans.
If you need more protein, feel free to try Boost High Protein. I have tried it previously. When training athletes, amateur and professional, I have suggested trying it to see if they found it beneficial. None of us have been vegetarians. We got our protein from meat. With that level of energy consumption, hunger for meat was never short.
There are a bunch of websites I should list here, but I can't do that now.
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Monday, January 17, 2022 10:59 AM
These are for the vanilla flavor:
Premiere protein powder is whey-based with a lot of sweetener, with no added vitamins, minerals etc.
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Whey Protein Isolate, Whey Protein Concentrate, Contains 2% or Less of Soluble Corn Fiber, Sunflower Lecithin, Natural and Artificial Flavors, Acesulfame Potassium, Sucralose, Xanthan Gum, Salt.
The pre-mixed bottled stuff with vitamins and minerals interestingly is casein+whey (milk protein concentrate) plus extra casein -based, and a lot of sweetener.
Quote:Here's the nutrition profile, where vitamins and minerals either more or less than 25% RDA were highlighted in magenta.
Water, Milk Protein Concentrate†, Calcium Caseinate†, Contains less than 1% of High Oleic Sunflower Oil, Natural and Artificial flavors, Inulin, Cellulose Gel and Cellulose Gum, Salt, Sucralose, Acesulfame Potassium, Carrageenan, Tripotassium Phosphate, Dipotassium Phosphate, Sodium Hexametaphosphate, Vitamin and Mineral Blend (Dl-alpha-tocopheryl Acetate [Vitamin E], Zinc Glycinate Chelate, Ferric Orthophosphate, Vitamin A Palmitate, Niacinamide, Phytonadione [Vitamin K1], Potassium Iodide, Cholecalciferol [Vitamin D3], Copper Gluconate, Calcium D-Pantothenate, Manganese Sulfate, Sodium Selenite, Biotin, Sodium Molybdate, Folic Acid, Thiamine Mononitrate [Vitamin B1], Cyanocobalamin [Vitamin B12], Pyridoxine Hydrochloride [Vitamin B6], Riboflavin [Vitamin B2], Chromium Polynicotinate), Magnesium Phosphate, Sodium Ascorbate. Sucralose, Xanthan Gum, Salt.
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Vitamin D
6mcg
30%
Iron
1.8mg
10%
Calcium
650mg
50%
Potassium
180mg
4%
Vitamin A
230mcg
25%
Vitamin E
3.8mg
25%
Thiamin
0.3mg
25%
Niacin
4mg
25%
Folate
100mcg DFE
25%
Vitamin B12
0.6mcg
25%
Pantothenic Acid
1.3mg
25%
Iodine
37mcg
25%
Zinc
2.8mg
25%
Copper
0.25mg
25%
Chromium
8mcg
25%
Vitamin C
46mg
50%
Vitamin K
30mcg
25%
Riboflavin
0.3mg
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Monday, January 17, 2022 11:03 AM
Quote:Aren't you the one who recommended ORIGINAL FORMULA BOOST? Yanno - the one with only 10g of protein per bottle?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Other than Kiki blathering out her bung ...
Do you still stand by your faulty opinion?
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Monday, January 17, 2022 11:10 AM
Oh, BTW, this is JSF completely claiming total misinformation - but with CONfidence!
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
It seems to claim 24 vitamins and minerals, much of which are less than 10%, and less than 5%, and even less than 1%.
In FACT, the bottled shakes it looks like you got have mostly 25% of everything in terms of vitamins and minerals.
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Monday, January 17, 2022 11:36 AM
Quote:At the risk of repeating myself,
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
You didn't click on the link, I see.
What I posted was BOOST - ORIGINAL FORMULA.
I got introduced to BOOST over 3 decades ago when a family member was trying to help their elderly relative eat better. They happened on BOOST, but a while later noticed that it contained a whole lot of carbs, and not a lot of protein. So they stopped using it because it just wasn't good nutrition.
And, yep - it's that same old 'original formula' Boost I remember so well from so many years ago (and that YOU recommended). It still has a lot of carbs, and still not enough protein (and no guarantee that protein is complete, and still no fiber or essential fats).
BTW, if something is going to be 'complete' it needs to have everything in the same proportion. If it has 25% of vitamins and minerals, it should also have 25% of protein, 25% of fiber, and 25% of essential fats. An average adult needs about 50 grams of complete protein a day. (Women roughly 45g, men roughly 55g.) But ill people, injured people, and old people need a lot more protein - up to 100g a day. So if Boost wants to claim to be complete - and cover men - a serving(can) that has 25% RDA vitamin and minerals needs at a minimum roughly 15g of complete protein per serving(can) - or - doing the math - 50% more than original formula. And it also needs 25% of essential fats, and fiber.
Just how stupid are you now?
How gullible have you become in your old age?
Are you even more insane?
You say you found Boost over 3 decades ago. That would be 1991 or before. Boost was first sold under that name in 1994. This seems a rather obvious lie on your part.
You posted a linky to the evil Nestle website for the new reformulated (several times) Boost, which evil Nestle has labeled "original" but NOT "original formula" as you claim - mistakenly on so many levels.
So, how gullible are you to believe any lie that evil Nestle implies to you?
You claim to recognize the actual original formula from 31 years ago as the most current formula which is listed at your linky.
Are you really really really gullible enough to believe that Stevia Leaf Extract is the original ingredient in the original formula Nutrament from 1969? Or in the same original formula Boost in 1994? Or in the still original formula when Novartis bought Mead-Johnson in 2003? You might be the single solitary poster on this site to believe any of that. You might be able to find somebody gullible enough to fall for your story that Stevia Leaf Extract was an "original" ingredient in the formula for Boost when Novartis was acquired by Nestle in 2007 - although that would still be a lie. After evil Nestle got in, they made their first corruption of the formula by swapping sugar for Stevia Leaf Extract, which also changed the sequence of ingredients in the list - the sugar was several items from the bottom, and Stevia appeared at the bottom of the ingredient list. With that change in formula, all other ingredients remained in the same sequence on the list - and the same % of each vitamin, mineral, protein, and other nutrients (other than sugar data) remained.
I have always recommended the original formula Nutrament and the same original formula Boost, without reservation - and with proven results.
Although I've had reservation regarding Stevia, I have still recommended Boost since.
"Original" is the notation on the packages which still do not have sucralose in them. But evil Nestle has sullied the name of Boost by contaminating formulas with pollutant poison sucralose - and I do not ever recommend those.
The newest corruption of the formula is a poor cousin to the 50-year-old formula, but it still has no HFCS or sucralose and is the best I've found - until I can find that resurrected Nutrament.
Boost and Nutrament have never used the word "complete" - is that just another
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Monday, January 17, 2022 11:50 AM
Quote:with all of the changing posts, just quoting the lies.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:Aren't you the one who recommended ORIGINAL FORMULA BOOST? Yanno - the one with only 10g of protein per bottle?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Other than Kiki blathering out her bung ...
Do you still stand by your faulty opinion?
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Monday, January 17, 2022 2:01 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:hmmmmm.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Have not looked into Boost yet. I see there is some difference of opinion on it. Just got the Dr-recommended protein drink. It has 30 g protein per bottle - that's a lot!- and almost no carbs. Never thought I'd say this, but it's too sweet! Probably has a crapton of sweetener in it. Don't know what, haven't looked at the ingredients yet. Good thing I didn't get a lot.
I have nothing against sweeteners per se, I don't think they're poison, but it's off-puttingly sweet, so I'll probably will continue with my milk+whey+ natural sweetener and fill in with 1/2 bottles of the other stuff to round out my protein to 50-60g/day and continue with squats since my thighs seem to be the weakest. I'll take a big hit next Friday and be down for 2 weeks but should recover steadily after that.
Managed to walk the dog a bit around the corner and do some bathroom tidying and cleaning,
and make a big salad for dinner - lettuce, spinach, tomato, cucumber, celery, some leftover green onions, shredded leftover parmesan (from Jan1), leftover cubed chicken, cubed ham, hardboiled egg, shaved red pepper on top. I couldn't eat it, but it sure looked tasty!
Dog is on a new diet too: raw meat, organ meat, veggies, bone meal etc and sheseems to appreciate it. She was pogoing around today looking for lizards today like a puppy!
Other than Kiki blathering out of her bung, I've never heard controversy about Boost.
I looked up your Premiere Protein. It seems to claim 24 vitamins and minerals, much of which are less than 10%, and less than 5%, and even less than 1%. If you really need 60% of your Recommended Daily Allowance of protein in liquid form and actually believe it will be absorbed in that form, then perhaps 30g is what you need. But the primary factor I saw was sucralose.
If I had any doctor who advised me to consume the poison sucralose, for any reason, I would drop that doctor.
If you want to proclaim that sucralose is not poison, then please stop beating around the bush and plainly state so, so I can stop typing to enlighten you.
Sucralose is a trichlirinate. Engineered, designed, created, and manufactured to be poison, engineered to kill living things, a pesticide. After creation, it was found to be 600 times sweeter than sugar, so they decided to pour it directly into human foods. It consists of the poisonous 3 molecules of chlorine mashed together with 1 molecule of sugar. Manufactured by industrial chemical facilities, they make plenty of profits by poisoning humans.
If you need more protein, feel free to try Boost High Protein. I have tried it previously. When training athletes, amateur and professional, I have suggested trying it to see if they found it beneficial. None of us have been vegetarians. We got our protein from meat. With that level of energy consumption, hunger for meat was never short.
There are a bunch of websites I should list here, but I can't do that now.
I highlighted the part where I said I have nothing against sweeteners.
AFA whether Boost was introduced in 1991 v 1994 ... someone is remembering something from 30 years ago! I'm surprised KIKI got the date that close! ALL of my doctors have said: NO SUGAR. That's one thing they all agree on.
I don't understand something about the formulation: it sayd 37 grams carbs, only 15 grams sugar, but no fiber. Where do the remaining 22 g of carbs come from? Isn't cellulose gum a fiber? Something seriously whacked there!
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KIKI: I'll look into the formulation with oatmeal. Yes, I got the bottled kind.
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Monday, January 17, 2022 2:17 PM
Got links for any of your 'information'?
I'm betting not!
BTW - I see you've post-edited many of your posts!
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Monday, January 17, 2022 10:10 PM
Quote:OK, it sounds like you are denying sucralose is poison. BTW, I've heard antifreeze is also quite sweet - maybe that will solve your health problems as well.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:I highlighted the part where I said I have nothing against sweeteners.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:hmmmmm.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Have not looked into Boost yet. I see there is some difference of opinion on it. Just got the Dr-recommended protein drink. It has 30 g protein per bottle - that's a lot!- and almost no carbs. Never thought I'd say this, but it's too sweet! Probably has a crapton of sweetener in it. Don't know what, haven't looked at the ingredients yet. Good thing I didn't get a lot.
I have nothing against sweeteners per se, I don't think they're poison, but it's off-puttingly sweet, so I'll probably will continue with my milk+whey+ natural sweetener and fill in with 1/2 bottles of the other stuff to round out my protein to 50-60g/day and continue with squats since my thighs seem to be the weakest. I'll take a big hit next Friday and be down for 2 weeks but should recover steadily after that.
Managed to walk the dog a bit around the corner and do some bathroom tidying and cleaning,
and make a big salad for dinner - lettuce, spinach, tomato, cucumber, celery, some leftover green onions, shredded leftover parmesan (from Jan1), leftover cubed chicken, cubed ham, hardboiled egg, shaved red pepper on top. I couldn't eat it, but it sure looked tasty!
Dog is on a new diet too: raw meat, organ meat, veggies, bone meal etc and sheseems to appreciate it. She was pogoing around today looking for lizards today like a puppy!
Other than Kiki blathering out of her bung, I've never heard controversy about Boost.
I looked up your Premiere Protein. It seems to claim 24 vitamins and minerals, much of which are less than 10%, and less than 5%, and even less than 1%. If you really need 60% of your Recommended Daily Allowance of protein in liquid form and actually believe it will be absorbed in that form, then perhaps 30g is what you need. But the primary factor I saw was sucralose.
If I had any doctor who advised me to consume the poison sucralose, for any reason, I would drop that doctor.
If you want to proclaim that sucralose is not poison, then please stop beating around the bush and plainly state so, so I can stop typing to enlighten you.
Sucralose is a trichlirinate. Engineered, designed, created, and manufactured to be poison, engineered to kill living things, a pesticide. After creation, it was found to be 600 times sweeter than sugar, so they decided to pour it directly into human foods. It consists of the poisonous 3 molecules of chlorine mashed together with 1 molecule of sugar. Manufactured by industrial chemical facilities, they make plenty of profits by poisoning humans.
If you need more protein, feel free to try Boost High Protein. I have tried it previously. When training athletes, amateur and professional, I have suggested trying it to see if they found it beneficial. None of us have been vegetarians. We got our protein from meat. With that level of energy consumption, hunger for meat was never short.
There are a bunch of websites I should list here, but I can't do that now.
AFA whether Boost was introduced in 1991 v 1994 ... someone is remembering something from 30 years ago! I'm surprised KIKI got the date that close! ALL of my doctors have said: NO SUGAR. That's one thing they all agree on.
I don't understand something about the formulation: it sayd 37 grams carbs, only 15 grams sugar, but no fiber. Where do the remaining 22 g of carbs come from? Isn't cellulose gum a fiber? Something seriously whacked there!
No sugar? Do they think you are allergic to sugar? Are these doctors 12? Are these diversity hire doctors? With doctors like that, no wonder they told you to
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