In the garden, and RAIN!!!!
POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Thursday, December 25, 2025 04:27
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Another dose of heavy fog for where I am for this evening.
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Fog rolled in last night then rolled out and rolled back in again.
As for today just a lazy Sunday.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Thanks for the tip! I don't know why it took me so long to think about it, but I've had a hard time maintaining an adequate diet, and it finally occurred to me that it might help.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I think the reason why it didn't come to mind is because Boost (and Ensure) have always been notoriously low in protein, more like milkshakes and sugar with some vitamins thrown in.
Quote:Boost original has
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
That seems like a dumb thing to say.
Before the energy drink changed names to Boost (and got remarketed), it was 12oz, 360 calories (approx 1/3 of a 1,000 calorie per day diet), and all 27 vitamins and minerals had 35% USRDA. Protein was 35% USRDA. It was started in the late 1960s under the name Nutrament, which was discontinued when Boost debuted.
When the name was changed to Boost, the size was reduced to 8oz with 240 calories, and all 27 vitamins and minerals plus protein each provided 25% USRDA. There was also a High Protein formula, and I don't recall the quantity, but I was past my peak fitness years and didn't feel I needed the extra protein. This formula and packaging continued for more than 20 years.
After the evil Nestle purchased the brand, it recently changed formula (in the past year or 2). Currently the protein is down to 20% with the same 240 calories. The current vitamins and minerals:
50% - vit E, vit C, chromium,
45% - vit B12,
40% - Riboflavin,
35% - vit B6, copper, manganese,
30% - vit D, zinc,
25% - Calcium, iron, vit K, thiamine, folate, biotin, pantothenic acid, iodine, magnesium, selenium, molybdenum,
20% - vit A, niacin, phosphorus,
10% - Potassium, chloride, choline
So, are you lying yet again? Are you talking out of your bung? Or do you really think that 35% protein is out of line with 35% for each of 27 vitamins and minerals, and 25% protein is out of line with 25% for each of 27 vitamins and minerals?
Sigs: I see now that the name Nutrament is resurrected, with 16g protein in 12oz can. I have not seen it in a store yet, and cannot find details about the formula, I want to find it now. Maybe you would want to try it. It has always had more flavors, now with new Eggnog and Mango, most of the other flavors were available in the 70s and 80s.
10g of protein, and no indication if it's 'complete' protein
37g of carbs, 15g of which are 'added sugars', and 0(zero) fiber
As I said, not enough protein and of uncertain quality, and far too much sugar - like a milkshake with some vitamins and minerals thrown in.
https://www.boost.com/products/boost-original
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Thanks for the tip! I don't know why it took me so long to think about it, but I've had a hard time maintaining an adequate diet, and it finally occurred to me that it might help.
Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I think the reason why it didn't come to mind is because Boost (and Ensure) have always been notoriously low in protein, more like milkshakes and sugar with some vitamins thrown in.
Quote:Boost original has
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
That seems like a dumb thing to say.
Before the energy drink changed names to Boost (and got remarketed), it was 12oz, 360 calories (approx 1/3 of a 1,000 calorie per day diet), and all 27 vitamins and minerals had 35% USRDA. Protein was 35% USRDA. It was started in the late 1960s under the name Nutrament, which was discontinued when Boost debuted.
When the name was changed to Boost, the size was reduced to 8oz with 240 calories, and all 27 vitamins and minerals plus protein each provided 25% USRDA. There was also a High Protein formula, and I don't recall the quantity, but I was past my peak fitness years and didn't feel I needed the extra protein. This formula and packaging continued for more than 20 years.
After the evil Nestle purchased the brand, it recently changed formula (in the past year or 2). Currently the protein is down to 20% with the same 240 calories. The current vitamins and minerals:
50% - vit E, vit C, chromium,
45% - vit B12,
40% - Riboflavin,
35% - vit B6, copper, manganese,
30% - vit D, zinc,
25% - Calcium, iron, vit K, thiamine, folate, biotin, pantothenic acid, iodine, magnesium, selenium, molybdenum,
20% - vit A, niacin, phosphorus,
10% - Potassium, chloride, choline
So, are you lying yet again? Are you talking out of your bung? Or do you really think that 35% protein is out of line with 35% for each of 27 vitamins and minerals, and 25% protein is out of line with 25% for each of 27 vitamins and minerals?
Sigs: I see now that the name Nutrament is resurrected, with 16g protein in 12oz can. I have not seen it in a store yet, and cannot find details about the formula, I want to find it now. Maybe you would want to try it. It has always had more flavors, now with new Eggnog and Mango, most of the other flavors were available in the 70s and 80s.
10g of protein, and no indication if it's 'complete' protein
37g of carbs, 15g of which are 'added sugars', and 0(zero) fiber
As I said, not enough protein and of uncertain quality, and far too much sugar - like a milkshake with some vitamins and minerals thrown in.
https://www.boost.com/products/boost-original
HEY!! DUMMY!!
WAKE UP!!
I already clearly stated that the evil Nestle had recently reformulated Boost to drop the protein down to 20% USRDA, which is 10g - along with decreasing many of the other 27 vitamins and minerals. I did not include that Mead-Johnson changed the name to Boost in 1994, or that Novartis bought Mead-Johnson in 2003. Nestle acquired Novartis in 2007.
How did you get so stupid ? Or illiterate? Can you not comprehend fairly simple written American English?
Within it's 53 year history, the past year or 2 does not qualify as your idiotic "always" - no matter how gullible you are or often you say so.
When it was in a formula providing 25% (or 35%) USRDA of vitamins & minerals, what do you propose was the most fitting amount of protein? 50%? 100%? 200%? 500%? What?
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Quote:That seems like a dumb thing to say.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:I think the reason why it didn't come to mind is because Boost (and Ensure) have always been notoriously low in protein, more like milkshakes and sugar with some vitamins thrown in.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Thanks for the tip! I don't know why it took me so long to think about it, but I've had a hard time maintaining an adequate diet, and it finally occurred to me that it might help.
Before the energy drink changed names to Boost (and got remarketed), it was 12oz, 360 calories (approx 1/3 of a 1,000 calorie per day diet), and all 27 vitamins and minerals had 35% USRDA. Protein was 35% USRDA. It was started in the late 1960s under the name Nutrament, which was discontinued when Boost debuted.
When the name was changed to Boost, the size was reduced to 8oz with 240 calories, and all 27 vitamins and minerals plus protein each provided 25% USRDA. There was also a High Protein formula, and I don't recall the quantity, but I was past my peak fitness years and didn't feel I needed the extra protein. This formula and packaging continued for more than 20 years.
After the evil Nestle purchased the brand, it recently changed formula (in the past year or 2). Currently the protein is down to 20% with the same 240 calories. The current vitamins and minerals:
50% - vit E, vit C, chromium,
45% - vit B12,
40% - Riboflavin,
35% - vit B6, copper, manganese,
30% - vit D, zinc,
25% - Calcium, iron, vit K, thiamine, folate, biotin, pantothenic acid, iodine, magnesium, selenium, molybdenum,
20% - vit A, niacin, phosphorus,
10% - Potassium, chloride, choline
So, are you lying yet again? Are you talking out of your bung? Or do you really think that 35% protein is out of line with 35% for each of 27 vitamins and minerals, and 25% protein is out of line with 25% for each of 27 vitamins and minerals?
Sigs: I see now that the name Nutrament is resurrected, with 16g protein in 12oz can. I have not seen it in a store yet, and cannot find details about the formula, I want to find it now. Maybe you would want to try it. It has always had more flavors, now with new Eggnog and Mango, most of the other flavors were available in the 70s and 80s.
looks like I have a correction, or more complete info, to make. After Nestle changed the basic formula to no longer be equal USRDA across all 27 vitamins, minerals, and plus protein, I had not recalled all of the details of the changes (prior formulas maintained the same proportions through all flavors).
The above nutrition details are for the chocolate flavor. I now notice that the strawberry have mostly the same vitamin and mineral proportions, but differences are copper 20% and chromium 25%.
Peaches and cream flavor is the same as strawberry.
I don't know what differences are in vanilla flavor.
Boost continues to not include any High Fructose Corn Syrup.
I just noticed again that Ensure is contaminated with sucralose, which is a trichlorinate. Only a moron like Kiki would conflate a poison like this product with a nutrition drink like Boost or the original, Nutrament.
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You didn't click on the link, I see.
What I posted was BOOST - ORIGINAL FORMULA.
I got introduced to BOOST over 3 decades ago when a family member was trying to help their elderly relative eat better. They happened on BOOST, but a while later noticed that it contained a whole lot of carbs, and not a lot of protein. So they stopped using it because it just wasn't good nutrition.
And, yep - it's that same old 'original formula' Boost I remember so well from so many years ago (and that YOU recommended). It still has a lot of carbs, and still not enough protein (and no guarantee that protein is complete, and still no fiber or essential fats).
BTW, if something is going to be 'complete' it needs to have everything in the same proportion. If it has 25% of vitamins and minerals, it should also have 25% of protein, 25% of fiber, and 25% of essential fats. An average adult needs about 50 grams of complete protein a day. (Women roughly 45g, men roughly 55g.) But ill people, injured people, and old people need a lot more protein - up to 100g a day. So if Boost wants to claim to be complete - and cover men - a serving(can) that has 25% RDA vitamin and minerals needs at a minimum roughly 15g of complete protein per serving(can) - or - doing the math - 50% more than original formula. And it also needs 25% of essential fats, and fiber.
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Quote:I learn something new every day!
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:I don't think I have ever seen a fridge on wheels, regardless of size or application. That would be weird. The key factor for fridges is to have self closing doors, drawers - so leveling is critical, otherwise gravity does not closed and seal the doors. Maybe chest freezers, with a top lid - but I don't recall seeing that either. Refrigerant systems do not fare well with lots of movement, due to the sediment dislodging and jamming up the insides. This is why used fridges and freezers need to be kept level upright when moving.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hubby has his drill press, table saw and bandsaw on locking/rolling platforms. They allow him to reconfigure his (small) shop to accommodate various sized projects and they work great.
Don't frigs comes with wheels already, tho?
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Rain for tomorrow not sure about the rest of the week.
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Have not looked into Boost yet. I see there is some difference of opinion on it. Just got the Dr-recommended protein drink. It has 30 g protein per bottle - that's a lot!- and almost no carbs. Never thought I'd say this, but it's too sweet! Probably has a crapton of sweetener in it. Don't know what, haven't looked at the ingredients yet. Good thing I didn't get a lot.
I have nothing against sweeteners per se, I don't think they're poison, but it's off-puttingly sweet, so I'll probably will continue with my milk+whey+ natural sweetener and fill in with 1/2 bottles of the other stuff to round out my protein to 50-60g/day and continue with squats since my thighs seem to be the weakest. I'll take a big hit next Friday and be down for 2 weeks but should recover steadily after that.
Managed to walk the dog a bit around the corner and do some bathroom tidying and cleaning,
and make a big salad for dinner - lettuce, spinach, tomato, cucumber, celery, some leftover green onions, shredded leftover parmesan (from Jan1), leftover cubed chicken, cubed ham, hardboiled egg, shaved red pepper on top. I couldn't eat it, but it sure looked tasty!
Dog is on a new diet too: raw meat, organ meat, veggies, bone meal etc and sheseems to appreciate it. She was pogoing around today looking for lizards today like a puppy!
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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She was pogoing around today looking for lizards today like a puppy!
I THINK I have a routine diet for Mr E so that he doesn't regurgitate nearly quite so often! or stop eating entirely. It's just the non-allergenic canned food blended with water to make a kitty milkshake, to which I add some 'plain cooked' meat broth for flavor (I switch it around from day to day), plus his medicine and smidge of B vitamins and taurine; and for the rest he has his high-fiber kibble to help with whatever is wrong with his gut.
Tho I'd be happy to learn something new and maybe have an even better solution for his problems.
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