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The Coming Bill for the MASSIVE Cost of Lockdowns

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Tuesday, January 4, 2022 11:08 PM

Actually without Omicron exploding here, all indications were we would ahve bounced back quite reasonably, and all without 100,000s of deaths - which for most sane human beings is a good outcome.

Sadly now we are overrun with Omicron, and guess what, businesses have had to shut up, supply chains are disrupted, blah blah blah.

It's the virus that causes the problems, numnuts, responses to it, or lack of response is what impacts on Business (let me genuflect to the god of free enterprise here for the wonderful job he does at looking out for ordinary folk)

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Tuesday, January 4, 2022 11:16 PM

LOL...

My apologies to Kiki for calling her a cheerleader for tyranny. She looks downright reasonable compared to Mags.



You get what you deserve, you frightened and sad little woman.

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Wednesday, January 5, 2022 3:19 AM


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Actually without Omicron exploding here, all indications were we would have bounced back quite reasonably, and all without 100,000s of deaths - which for most sane human beings is a good outcome.

Sadly now we are overrun with Omicron, and guess what, businesses have had to shut up, supply chains are disrupted, blah blah blah.

It's the virus that causes the problems, numnuts, responses to it, or lack of response is what impacts on Business (let me genuflect to the god of free enterprise here for the wonderful job he does at looking out for ordinary folk)


https://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/

Hi MG

I've found this ^^^ website to be extremely helpful when it comes to interpreting the 'news'. It charts a wide variety of COVID-19 metrics across the globe.

(Ever since the first Gulf War I've become extremely cynical about how sketchy the 'news' here in the US can be, because there were facts that were OBVIOUSLY erased from our 'news'. If you're interested, I'll give you the long story and specifics later, but that doesn't belong here.)

For what it's worth, I dismiss any internet 'news' story, pronouncement, announcement, claim etc out of hand that doesn't link original sources. If they say, for example, 'a recent study shows', then they have access to that study, and they can also darn well link it too, even if it's on a preprint server like https://www.biorxiv.org/, even if it's behind a paywall like https://www.nature.com/nature/research-articles. If they say 'WHO announced' then they have access to that announcement and/ or video, and they can link to the complete statement, rather than publish a severely edited 5-word snippet. Put out ALL the information, and let people judge for themselves. (BTW lack of evidence is how I screen all information. If the information is there, but made unavailable, I wonder - why are they hiding it?)

Anyway, when it comes to the webpage of graphs https://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/, the first 2 graphs (1 and 2 out of 4) list cases, deaths, vaccinations etc in 1) countries and 2) US states/ Canadian provinces. But the figures are given in raw numbers, which I find not at all helpful, because a country with 10,000 deaths out of a population of 20T is in a very different situation than a country with 10,000 deaths out of a population of 200M.

So I go to the next 2 graphs (3 and 4 out of 4), which give all figures per 100,000 people.

One must interpret these numbers with some caution. For example, very poor countries probably aren't in a position to widely test for COVID-19, or to document COVID-19 deaths (many people probably die at home), so I estimate their reported numbers are lower than actual numbers.


By the graphs, I see your country has done exceptionally well at keeping COVID-19 deaths down!

IMO that's a benefit of being an island! I know you mentioned the ease of air travel, but airports are as easy to isolate as seaports. If entries at arrival points are restricted, your country is pretty well isolated. (That's compared to say the US where literally tens to hundreds of thousands of people literally walk across the border every year.) AND your country also has the benefit of understanding its geographic advantage, and is in the habit of keeping agricultural pests and animals diseases at bay that way as well! The thought processes and the mechanisms to isolate from global disease are there. So, GOOD FOR YOU! IMO.

You also have a national health system, AND a spirit of concern for your countrymen, unlike the US which has its rapacious healthcare and a Roman-arena ethic (a war of all against all).

Also, you have a high vaccination rate!

So I applaud what you've accomplished!

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Friday, January 7, 2022 7:30 AM


Apparently I'm not the only one with the idea Omicron could burn COVID-19 out of the population (at least for now, in some places):

Omicron variant could ‘end the pandemic,’ new data suggests
https://news.yahoo.com/omicron-variant-could-end-pandemic-135944389.ht
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Friday, January 7, 2022 4:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Actually without Omicron exploding here, all indications were we would have bounced back quite reasonably, and all without 100,000s of deaths - which for most sane human beings is a good outcome.

Sadly now we are overrun with Omicron, and guess what, businesses have had to shut up, supply chains are disrupted, blah blah blah.

It's the virus that causes the problems, numnuts, responses to it, or lack of response is what impacts on Business (let me genuflect to the god of free enterprise here for the wonderful job he does at looking out for ordinary folk)


https://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/

Hi MG

I've found this ^^^ website to be extremely helpful when it comes to interpreting the 'news'. It charts a wide variety of COVID-19 metrics across the globe.

(Ever since the first Gulf War I've become extremely cynical about how sketchy the 'news' here in the US can be, because there were facts that were OBVIOUSLY erased from our 'news'. If you're interested, I'll give you the long story and specifics later, but that doesn't belong here.)

For what it's worth, I dismiss any internet 'news' story, pronouncement, announcement, claim etc out of hand that doesn't link original sources. If they say, for example, 'a recent study shows', then they have access to that study, and they can also darn well link it too, even if it's on a preprint server like https://www.biorxiv.org/, even if it's behind a paywall like https://www.nature.com/nature/research-articles. If they say 'WHO announced' then they have access to that announcement and/ or video, and they can link to the complete statement, rather than publish a severely edited 5-word snippet. Put out ALL the information, and let people judge for themselves. (BTW lack of evidence is how I screen all information. If the information is there, but made unavailable, I wonder - why are they hiding it?)

Anyway, when it comes to the webpage of graphs https://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/, the first 2 graphs (1 and 2 out of 4) list cases, deaths, vaccinations etc in 1) countries and 2) US states/ Canadian provinces. But the figures are given in raw numbers, which I find not at all helpful, because a country with 10,000 deaths out of a population of 20T is in a very different situation than a country with 10,000 deaths out of a population of 200M.

So I go to the next 2 graphs (3 and 4 out of 4), which give all figures per 100,000 people.

One must interpret these numbers with some caution. For example, very poor countries probably aren't in a position to widely test for COVID-19, or to document COVID-19 deaths (many people probably die at home), so I estimate their reported numbers are lower than actual numbers.


By the graphs, I see your country has done exceptionally well at keeping COVID-19 deaths down!

IMO that's a benefit of being an island! I know you mentioned the ease of air travel, but airports are as easy to isolate as seaports. If entries at arrival points are restricted, your country is pretty well isolated. (That's compared to say the US where literally tens to hundreds of thousands of people literally walk across the border every year.) AND your country also has the benefit of understanding its geographic advantage, and is in the habit of keeping agricultural pests and animals diseases at bay that way as well! The thought processes and the mechanisms to isolate from global disease are there. So, GOOD FOR YOU! IMO.

You also have a national health system, AND a spirit of concern for your countrymen, unlike the US which has its rapacious healthcare and a Roman-arena ethic (a war of all against all).

Also, you have a high vaccination rate!

So I applaud what you've acc

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Friday, January 7, 2022 8:47 PM

Nobody needs yearly flu shots.

But I'm SURE you get them every year.

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Wednesday, August 17, 2022 4:50 PM

Ridin' With Biden?

Workers in These States Would Pay Most Under Biden’s New Business Tax

https://www.dailysignal.com/2022/08/11/these-states-would-pay-most-und
er-bidens-new-business-tax
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President Biden signs bills tackling COVID-19 relief fraud into law

https://www.wmur.com/article/covid-19-fraud-bills-biden/40821543

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Wednesday, August 17, 2022 6:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
President Biden signs bills tackling COVID-19 relief fraud into law

https://www.wmur.com/article/covid-19-fraud-bills-biden/40821543



Good. I hope it makes him pay out of pocket for the incoming wave of lawsuits instead of the hospitals.

You think medical care is expensive now? Just you wait until the bill for that comes in.

SPOILER ALERT: The Hospitals aren't paying for Joe Biden*"s unconstitutional OSHA mandate either.

You are.

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Saturday, August 27, 2022 2:52 AM

UWO faculty waiting for COVID-19 guidance, want mask mandate to return

https://globalnews.ca/news/9075217/uwo-faculty-association-covid/

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Saturday, August 27, 2022 8:08 AM

Fuck masks. Not going to happen. Ever again.

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