Critical Race Theory 'I'm out'
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Quote:"Many people here"? Many people here have lied and claimed I was a Russian troll. But YOU know better, right?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You keep doubling down on my lie that I'm lying about Kiki and I'll go ahead and say whatever I want to say. Many other people here have claimed you and her change or delete posts.
Why do I care what a bunch a liars and ignor-anuses say? *And why should you appeal to their opinion when you know it's worth shit?*
Quote:Often, comments are made while I'm still editing. And I have often gone back to correct typos and the notorious phone autofills that I didn't catch the first time *because I didn't have my glasses on.* Sometimes I've edited for clarity (for example, to clarify what I'm referring to when I say "that"). I have deleted personal insults made in anger. Sometimes, I have added more info to my posts after comments were made. But I have never changed my opinion or POV. So what? I was editing.
I've certainly seen her change her posts after comments were made on them. And since this website doesn't show when or even if posts were edited, I've called her out on that several times for the bullshit standard it represents after I had already quoted her in a reply only to see that her original post was later much different than what I'd quoted.
*I've learned to post first and edit/complete later because
a) Sometimes I get logged out at the most inopportune times. With my old browser, when I hit the "back" button all that typing would disappear!
b) When I'm on my phone, I lose connection. Same problem.
c) I get interrupted. My time is not my own. THIS time, I was halfway thru a post and called into the garage to help. Then I had to start dinner. I didn't even get to finish.
Quote:No, you are.
ou really shouldn't defend that little rat of a woman. She's a disgusting human being.
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Quote:FOR WHAT?
SIX: P.S. Still haven't seen your apology to me for your lie about me in the abortion thread.
AFAIK everything I posted about you- from you bipolar tendencies; your essentially selfish, narcissistic, oppositional oddities; your reality-free opinions (delusions) and your total unsuitability as a father and husband, are all true.
So, yanno, stick it where the sun don't shine, honeybunches. I don't care if you don't like the way I post.*
*Added after a two-hour interruption.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Quote:Not once did that happen.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You keep doubling down on my lie that I'm lying about Kiki and I'll go ahead and say whatever I want to say. Many other people here have claimed you and her change or delete posts. I've certainly seen her change her posts after comments were made on them. And since this website doesn't show when or even if posts were edited, I've called her out on that several times for the bullshit standard it represents after I had already quoted her in a reply only to see that her original post was later much different than what I'd quoted.
Quote:You've really gone off the deep end.
You really shouldn't defend that little rat of a woman. She's a disgusting human being.
P.S. Still haven't seen your apology to me for your lie about me in the abortion thread.
I'm waiting.
BTW you've NEVER been able to find even one single post of mine where I've posted what you've claimed - not even months and months ago where you lied and said I was 'terrified' or COVID-19, or when you said I was for 'full government control over everything'.
Now either I've been diligently erasing every single post like that the entire time - of course either knowing ahead of time which ones you might claim I've posted, so I knew ahead of time what I needed to erase ... OR ... carefully spending hours on hours removing all trace of those posts - or you're just plain delusional - like WISHI.
And yes, you're just plain delusional - like WISHI, who imagined Signy and I had an ENTIRE CONVERSATION over many posts where we said the US should give all its nuclear arms to Russia. Which we then, somehow, magically then erased every single trace thereof, with, of course Haken's help, because we had 'something' on him.
People really are that crazy, and no, I'm not surprised by it, either in her, or you.
BTW, as I've pointed out before, you and JO have a LOT in common, one of which is the vital need to be right about everything - to the point of denying reality when it contradicts your cherished notions.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:"Many people here"? Many people here have lied and claimed I was a Russian troll. But YOU know better, right?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You keep doubling down on my lie that I'm lying about Kiki and I'll go ahead and say whatever I want to say. Many other people here have claimed you and her change or delete posts.
I know that you're not a Russian Troll. I don't know if you edit posts or not. I know full well that Kiki does all the time.
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Why do I care what a bunch a liars and ignor-anuses say? *And why should you appeal to their opinion when you know it's worth shit?*
You shouldn't. But if you're going to lie about me, why should I defend you from the potential lies of others. I know you're not a Russian. I know Kiki is not Russian. If somebody calls either of you a Russian I will say that it's not true.
Quote:Often, comments are made while I'm still editing. And I have often gone back to correct typos and the notorious phone autofills that I didn't catch the first time *because I didn't have my glasses on.* Sometimes I've edited for clarity (for example, to clarify what I'm referring to when I say "that"). I have deleted personal insults made in anger. Sometimes, I have added more info to my posts after comments were made. But I have never changed my opinion or POV. So what? I was editing.
I've certainly seen her change her posts after comments were made on them. And since this website doesn't show when or even if posts were edited, I've called her out on that several times for the bullshit standard it represents after I had already quoted her in a reply only to see that her original post was later much different than what I'd quoted.
Kiki will change posts hours after somebody has commented. I don't specifically remember you doing this.
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*I've learned to post first and edit/complete later because
a) Sometimes I get logged out at the most inopportune times. With my old browser, when I hit the "back" button all that typing would disappear!
b) When I'm on my phone, I lose connection. Same problem.
c) I get interrupted. My time is not my own. THIS time, I was halfway thru a post and called into the garage to help. Then I had to start dinner. I didn't even get to finish.
If you know that you're going to be gone and make a note of that in the post, that's fine. I see JSF doing that all the time. If somebody loses connection and comes back later to change a post and lets that be known, that's fine too.
Although, it would probably look shady if it was done regularly, specifically during arguments.
Quote:Quote:No, you are.
ou really shouldn't defend that little rat of a woman. She's a disgusting human being.
No. Kiki is.
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*Quote:FOR WHAT?
SIX: P.S. Still haven't seen your apology to me for your lie about me in the abortion thread.
I've asked you to look twice.
This is the third time. Don't make me ask again.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64716&mid=11466
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AFAIK everything I posted about you- from you bipolar tendencies; your essentially selfish, narcissistic, oppositional oddities; your reality-free opinions (delusions) and your total unsuitability as a father and husband, are all true.
So, yanno, stick it where the sun don't shine, honeybunches. I don't care if you don't like the way I post.*
I don't care about your opinions.
Change your lie and/or apologize for it.
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https://americanmind.org/features/parents-rights/crt-forever/
Racial tribalism doesn’t have to be part of the curriculum to dominate education.
“Please keep your cameras on: we’re watching to make sure you’re paying attention.”
Our racial equity training is a 16-hour-long affair. It starts with denunciations of capitalism, the United States, and various aspects of “white culture.” You are encouraged to ask questions, but if anyone is brave or foolish enough to complicate the approved narratives, he will practically be laughed to scorn. How could you be so obtuse as not to see the centuries of racism you’re responsible for?
On day two, before bringing things to a close, participants are reminded that to be a part of our district, to fully serve our children, you must treat them differently based on skin color. Whites must see black children as inherently oppressed by white culture and values. Though you’ve never entertained a single malicious thought toward any child, let alone one based on something so frivolous as race, if you want to teach in public schools you will be made to affirm that children should be taught differently based on color. That their culture, values, dreams, and desires are inseparably bound to their genetic makeup. You as a teacher are expected to believe this if you claim to care about children at all.
Throughout my time teaching, coaching, and administering in Indianapolis Public Schools & Lawrence Township schools, I have been baffled by our expectations for teachers. In the name of reconciling generational poverty and the legacy of Jim Crowism, we mandate that students’ individualism be stripped away and resources be diverted directly to color groups. In this way we are supposedly healing the wounds caused by the United States and Western Civilization as a whole.
Though we teach the empirically false stories of the 1619 Project and Howard Zinn in our history classes to bolster this narrative, we don’t have to teach your children Critical Race Theory overtly. CRT, the view of American history as a systemically racist and evil nation built on oppressing racial minorities, doesn’t have to be taught in every course as a curriculum. We can use it more efficiently by making it the premise of all pedagogy, the background assumption of every class.
Almost every evaluation, every coaching session, every professional development is structured this way. Did you discuss the racist history of math with your students? Are you using culturally relevant music studies instead of white-centric music theory? How have you discussed environmental racism with your science class today?
In administration our conversations are filled with the bureaucratic nonsense you might expect, but with an added tone of bigotry. The first factor in any discussion is always race. Before socioeconomics, behavior, family composition, home life, or any other considerations, we assign a student’s color as the defining factor that will shape his or her success. When I’ve previously questioned this, I have been told that culture and color are too linked to make any other explanation possible.
This is abhorrent, and woefully ignorant. There is no reason that a rich black child from a two-parent home in New England has more in common with the poorer black child from a single-parent home in Indianapolis than the poor white student from a single-parent home in the same neighborhood.
Regrettably, the white student will be informed that he has access to enormous and ineradicable privilege, and that he is responsible for treading on his black neighbor. Years of slanted and falsified history education will confirm this to both children, and the other classes will reinforce it.
They do not stop with setting a narrative: they demand that your children themselves take up action as activists. Butler Lab 60, a K-8 school in Indianapolis, took six months to force students into a racial justice project, in which students were told constantly to mobilize and radicalize with all their talents and skills in order to te
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Quote:I read KIKI's posts quite often. I can't say 100%, but I find them more informative that either yours or SECOND's.
6IXSTRINGJACK:
You keep doubling down on my lie that I'm lying about Kiki and I'll go ahead and say whatever I want to say. Many other people here have claimed you and her change or delete posts.
SIGNY: "Many people here"? Many people here have lied and claimed I was a Russian troll. But YOU know better, right?
SIX: I know that you're not a Russian Troll. I don't know if you edit posts or not. I know full well that Kiki does all the time.
a) I have NEVER read any post of hers that said what you claimed it said, and often said the opposite, and
b) I have not seen any evidence that any posts were changed hours or days after-the-fact.
I do know that I routinely edit posts quite a while later, depending on time-allowed, and I don't notify anyone of the fact. Bc I don't change them substantially, most comments made to my posts still apply.
Quote:At least we agree that your point "many others here" is moot. And aside from TWITCHY, I don't recall anyone BUT YOU making that comment, so even then, your ppit is suspect.
SIGNY: Why do I care what a bunch a liars and ignor-anuses say? *And why should you appeal to their opinion when you know it's worth shit?*
SIX: You shouldn't.
Quote:So you claim. I haven't seen it. But if this happens as often as you say, there should be plenty of examples where "reply with quote" reveals differences. I know you will find some of examples of mine.
SIX: I've certainly seen her change her posts after comments were made on them. And since this website doesn't show when or even if posts were edited, I've called her out on that several times for the bullshit standard it represents after I had already quoted her in a reply only to see that her original post was later much different than what I'd quoted.
SIGNY: Often, comments are made while I'm still editing. And I have often gone back to correct typos and the notorious phone autofills that I didn't catch the first time *because I didn't have my glasses on.* Sometimes I've edited for clarity (for example, to clarify what I'm referring to when I say "that"). I have deleted personal insults made in anger. Sometimes, I have added more info to my posts after comments were made. But I have never changed my opinion or POV. So what? I was editing.
SIX: Kiki will change posts hours after somebody has commented. I don't specifically remember you doing this.
Quote:I NEVER know when I
SIGNY: *I've learned to post first and edit/complete later because
a) Sometimes I get logged out at the most inopportune times. With my old browser, when I hit the "back" button all that typing would disappear!
b) When I'm on my phone, I lose connection. Same problem.
c) I get interrupted. My time is not my own. THIS time, I was halfway thru a post and called into the garage to help. Then I had to start dinner. I didn't even get to finish
XIX: If you know that you're going to be gone and make a note of that in the post, that's fine.
m goomg yo be logged oit, or lose connection or when sp,epne is going to call me for something. That's the point. Unlike you and JSF, I don't live alone. When you live with others, you're not on control of your own time. By now, posts have been interrpted or gone into the ether so frequently, I don't bother anymore to annotate where I stopped or what errors I corrected. And Idpn't care what you think about it. I think its stu[id.
Quote:Np. you are. You've formed a completely unjustified ponion of KIKI because she dared to dsiagree with you. pobre
SUX: You really shouldn't defend that little rat of a woman. She's a disgusting human being.
SIGNY: No, you are.
SIX: No. Kiki is.
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No. You didn't.
Liar.
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Quote:Why America Is at War Over the History of Slavery by Wesley Lowery
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I read KIKI's posts quite often. I can't say 100%, but I find them more informative that either yours or SECOND's.
https://www.gq.com/story/clint-smith-year-of-the-brave
A few years ago, Clint Smith told me about a new project that would take him to a series of historical sites—from Monticello to Angola prison to the Door of No Return in Senegal—to reexamine how these sites commemorate, and too often obfuscate, their role in the horror that was American slavery. Smith's aim, he told me, was to search for meaning in the way we tell the story of ourselves. Now, four years later, that project, How the Word Is Passed: A Reckoning With the History of Slavery Across America, is the breakout non-fiction book of 2021, a No. 1 New York Times best-seller (and top 10 book of the year) and one of President Obama’s annual picks, too. “In 2017, I was watching several Confederate statues come down in my hometown, New Orleans,” Smith said recently about the impetus of his undertaking. “Statues of P.G.T. Beauregard, Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee, these leaders of the Confederacy. I was thinking about what it meant that I grew up in a majority Black city, in which there were more homages to enslavers than there were to enslaved people. What are the implications of that?”
The project couldn't have been more prescient. As half of the country earnestly searches for a new understanding of our racial history, the other half violently denies it. Half of our neighbors are demagoguing critical race theory, while the other half are busy reading it. Smith has bravely stepped into that fray, asking a large swath of the country to soberly consider how their communities, and even their own families, contributed to our nation's original sin. “You have millions of people who are recalibrating their understandings of what America was and what America has been and what America is today,” Smith told me. “And as a result, you have this incredible amount of pushback from people for whom asking questions of American history is an existential threat to them because then they have to ask questions of themselves.” He spoke with GQ about the history wars, a golden age of Black intellectuals, and what he learned while writing How the Word Is Passed.
GQ: Your book really meditates on the idea of memory—what we remember, what we memorialize—and how through that memory, we pass on our own history and we empower ourselves to live in our present. Why do you think that framework was so resonant this year?
Clint Smith: I think part of it is certainly that we are in this moment where we are having the “history wars,” which are sort of embedded within the cultural wars. And there are these conversations around Critical Race Theory and how that is shaping the educational landscape, even when we know that Critical Race Theory is being used as a boogie man to instill fear and a sense of a threat to one’s position within the larger American project. It taps into the worst existential fears of many people across this country. And so there is this battle happening, as has happened throughout American history, about how we tell the story of this country, who are we including in the story, and what are we leaving out of the story, and what are the implications that that has through the landscape of our society today?
I think part of what's happened is over the past several years with the Black Lives Matter movement, there have been more people—not everyone, but certainly more—whose understanding of the history of this country has been complicated, has been nuanced, has been expanded, and people are being more honest about what that history is.
I think the implication of that is that you have millions of people who are in the ongoing process of recalibrating their previous understandings of what America has been and what America is today. As a result, I think you have this incredi
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SIX: No. You didn't.
Liar.
YES, I DID.
THIS IS MY POST.
I'm clarifying your POV to understand exactly what YOU meant.
Quote:It would be courteous if you tried to clarify with me what I meant. But, of course, you won't, so let me 'splain (since you didn't ask)
Oh, THIS little gem??
You complained LONG and LOUD that your g/f had an abortion and didn't even tell you. You said you (and ALL men) should be part of the decision-making process bc, right now, all LEGAL rights belong to the woman.
Please let me know if I'm misrepresenting you in any way.
Therefore, your argument would go, men should have a LEGAL right in the baby-making decision. Therefore, you are against a WOMAN'S right to choose bc it should - partly- belong to the putative father.
When I say "right to choose" I mean THE WOMAN'S, EXCLUSIVELY. YOU ARE AGAINST THAT. Correct? So. I'm not "lying" when I say you are against the WOMAN'S right to choose. We have been over this point so many times, even argued about it specifically, you can hardly claim to misundertand what I meant and then get all huffy about it.
But I'm looking at your example of vacccination. That's where I think your logical fuckup comes. When, IF, I get a chance to finish my thoughts I will post them. But I don't have time to continue stupid arguments with stupid people, so that point moght get dropped.
BTW: I added your quote after-the-fact to clarify what I was responding to, since SECONDRATE interpolated our discussion with his latest irrelevant hobby-horse (this time t's "slavery" since his mantra is the latest of wherever the liberaloid anti-American media establishment leads him.)
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Quote:Signym and 6ix could continue this bitter argument on the telephone. A phone call would be quicker and wouldn't pollute this thread about Critical Race Theory.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
BTW: I added your quote after-the-fact to clarify what I was responding to, since SECONDRATE interpolated our discussion with his latest irrelevant hobby-horse (this time t's "slavery" since his mantra is the latest of wherever the liberaloid anti-American media establishment leads him.)
There is about zero chance that phone call will be made, which is about the same chance they will download the book by Clint Smith “How the Word Is Passed: A Reckoning with the History of Slavery Across America” from the mirrors at https://libgen.unblockit.tv/search.php?req=Clint+Smith+Word
I will give Signym and 6ix a sample of the book, but the chances of either reading it are about the same as them making that phone call:
“The whole city is a memorial to slavery”
Prologue
THE SKY ABOVE THE MISSISSIPPI River stretched out like a song. The river was still in the windless afternoon, its water a yellowish-brown from the sediment it carried across thousands of miles of farmland, cities, and suburbs on its way south. At dusk, the lights of the Crescent City Connection, a pair of steel cantilever bridges that cross the river and connect the east and west banks of New Orleans, flickered on. Luminous bulbs ornamented the bridges’ steel beams like a congregation of fireflies settling onto the backs of two massive, unbothered creatures. A tugboat made its way downriver, pulling an enormous ship in its wake. The sounds of the French Quarter, just behind me, pulsed through the brick sidewalk underfoot. A pop-up brass band blared into the early-evening air, its trumpets, tubas, and trombones commingling with the delight of a congregating crowd; a young man drummed on a pair of upturned plastic buckets, the drumsticks in his hands moving with speed and dexterity; people gathered for photos along the river’s edge, hoping to capture an image of themselves surrounded by a recognizable piece of quintessential New Orleans iconography.
After the transatlantic slave trade was outlawed in 1808, about a million people were transported from the upper South to the lower South. More than one hundred thousand of them were brought down the Mississippi River and sold in New Orleans.
Leon A. Waters came and stood next to me on the riverfront, hands in pockets, lips compressed, overlooking the Mississippi’s slow bend between the two shores of the city. I had been introduced to Waters by a group of young Black activists in New Orleans who were part of the organization Take ’Em Down NOLA, whose self-espoused mission is “the removal of ALL symbols of white supremacy in New Orleans as a part of a broader push for racial & economic justice.” Waters has served as a mentor to many members of the group—they see him as an elder statesman of their movement and credit him for being a central part of their political education.
Waters—in his late sixties with a greying mustache sitting over his lips—wore a black sports coat over a grey-and-white-striped shirt with the top button undone. A navy-blue tie hung loosely below his unfastened collar and swung over the waistband of his faded blue jeans. A pair of thin-framed, rectangular-shaped glasses sat high on the bridge of his nose, the left lens with a slight smudge in its bottom corner. His voice was low and unvarying in its tone. Waters might be mistaken for surly, but his disposition is simply a reflection of the seriousness with which he takes the subject matter he often is discussing, the subject of slavery.
We were standing in front of a plaque, recently put up by the New Orleans Committee to Erect Markers on the Slave Trade, outlining Louisiana’s relationship to the transatlantic slave trade. “It’s doing its job,” Waters said of the plaque. “All through the day people come in, they stop, they read, take pictures…It’s another way of educating people to this.”
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Signym and 6ix could continue this bitter argument on the telephone. A phone call would be quicker and wouldn't pollute this thread about Critical Race Theory.
Agreed
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