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When Donald Trump lost the presidential election. Republican consumer sentiment plummeted, and kept plummeting for over a year. In November 2021 it came in at 37.2, the lowest it's ever registered. Lower than the 1980 Carter recession (55.1) and lower than the 2009 Great Recession (48.3).
https://jabberwocking.com/republican-hysteria-over-the-economy-has-rea
ched-record-levels/
In a sensible world, voters would have both a reasonably accurate picture of what’s happening in the economy and a basic understanding of what aspects of the economy are under politicians’ control. In the world we live in, neither of these things is true. Data show a huge divergence between what people say about the state of the economy, which is quite negative on average, and what they say about their own personal finances, which is fairly positive. This divergence suggests that people’s views on the economy reflect what they’re seeing on often partisan news media and what their politics say should be happening, rather than what they themselves are experiencing.
In reality, economic perceptions are largely shaped by media coverage — and, increasingly, by partisanship. Republicans now have a more negative assessment of economic conditions than they had in March 2009, the depths of the financial crisis, when the unemployment rate was 8.7 percent and the economy was losing 800,000 jobs a month.
https://web.archive.org/web/20211117014616/https://www.nytimes.com/202
1/11/16/opinion/gas-prices-economy.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
The Senate democrats can't even command a 50-vote simple majority because ... democrats.
Quote:Manchin's not 'really' a republican. He's a democrat, who calls himself a democrat, and who's recognized by his fellow democratic senators as a democrat, and who runs on a democratic ticket. So you saying he's 'really' a republican is just you ... lying ... again.
Originally posted by second:
They have Senator Manchin of West Virginia who is really a Republican.
Quote:You claim that Lieberman killed the public option. But EVEN YOUR OWN LINK DOESN'T SAY WHAT YOU CLAIM. There were A NUMBER of democratic senators who didn't want to see the public option, or even just medicare for all, in the bill.
Before Manchin, it was Sen. Joe Lieberman playing that role. Here is how Lieberman did a Manchin to Obamacare:
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/newsletter-article/senat
e-democrats-drop-public-option-woo-lieberman-and-liberals-howl
This is from the opening paragraph from your link:
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Democratic senators traveled to the White House on Tuesday for a meeting with President Obama aimed at building a united front on health care, and Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman said he'd likely join with them in backing a measure that dropped a government-sponsored insurance program.
And btw it was Max Baucus - another democrat - who's been given credit for writing the basics of Obamacare.
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Quote:The unethical politicians blur their positions and the media reports their obfuscations. But once in a while their actual positions become crystal clear. Immediately, the unethical politicians squirt ink into the water to make their escape from what they did, and media reports on the ink swirling. Manchin and Lieberman are examples of unethical politicians who get away with claiming to be somebody other than who they are: rich guys who are taking bribes to support the desires of other rich people. The media won't say that while the politician is alive because it would cause trouble for the media. The media will wait about 50 years, when it no longer can make any difference, like it does when the definitive history of a crooked and very dead American politician is finally published, documenting what the politician's true positions were, previously obscured by the politician's smoke, mirrors and the media's fear of being sued.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Bullshit and more bullshit from 1kiki.
Here is Manchin blowing smoke. The local price of gasoline is set by the international price of petroleum. The Federal government, despite what Manchin is insinuating, has no control over international prices. Every word I have ever heard from Manchin is more bullshit, same as this 30 seconds:
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:I have heard actual Ku Klux Klan members say the same
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I couldn't make it through the first paragraph of that racist tripe.
No thanks.
No you haven't. You've never met a Ku Klux Klan member, let alone try to get them to read their first book.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
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Quote:You proved you are foolish. If you do that in front of the wrong people, they stomp you into the hospital. That has happened to you, 6ix. Never happened to me.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No you haven't. You've never met a Ku Klux Klan member, let alone try to get them to read their first book.
I feel like this holiday season, it's important to remind people of the true meaning of Christmas: ghosts terrorizing rich people in the middle of the night until they agree to pay their employees more.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You proved you are foolish. If you do that in front of the wrong people, they stomp you into the hospital. That has happened to you, 6ix. Never happened to me.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No you haven't. You've never met a Ku Klux Klan member, let alone try to get them to read their first book.
Yeah. Asking somebody to leave a party because the homeowner was calling the cops surely means that you should retaliate by suckerpunching them when their back is turned and ganging up 4-on-1 to stomp and stab them.
Only in your world, dude. In your sad, scary, violent world.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
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Quote:Over in the Kyle Rittenhouse thread your story goes that Rittenhouse was the victim and the people he murdered had it coming. I'm pretty sure, 6ix, that way you misunderstand reality (or a house party) and the way you run your mouth when you should be quiet is why your life is troubled. Oh, and your feeling that you won't have to work isn't helping you.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:You proved you are foolish. If you do that in front of the wrong people, they stomp you into the hospital. That has happened to you, 6ix. Never happened to me.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No you haven't. You've never met a Ku Klux Klan member, let alone try to get them to read their first book.
Yeah. Asking somebody to leave a party because the homeowner was calling the cops surely means that you should retaliate by suckerpunching them when their back is turned and ganging up 4-on-1 to stomp and stab them.
Only in your world, dude. In your sad, scary, violent world.
'Kyle did nothing wrong'? or the crimes of the Kenosha Shooter
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63838
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Thanks to Capitalism:
Dan Price @DanPriceSeattle
66% of big companies are making higher profits now than before the pandemic.
Make no mistake: Companies aren't raising prices because of inflation or supply-chain issues. They're using that as an excuse to raise profits and hope you'll fall for it
8:17 PM · Nov 16, 2021·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/DanPriceSeattle/status/1460794292126068740
Dan Price @DanPriceSeattle
You ever notice how when there's some issue in the world - higher oil prices, supply-chain woes - companies say "we're forced to raise prices?" But then when that issue is resolved, they keep raising prices anyway? Almost like it's really just cover to increase profits.
10:49 AM · Nov 17, 2021·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/DanPriceSeattle/status/1461013543525007362
Dan Price @DanPriceSeattle
6 years ago today I raised my company's min wage to $70k. Fox News called me a socialist whose employees would be on bread lines. Since then our revenue tripled, we're a Harvard Business School case study & our employees had a 10x boom in homes bought. Always invest in people.
12:10 PM · Apr 13, 2021·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/DanPriceSeattle/status/1382018355985588228
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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CharlesM Oct 9, 2021 wrote about the movie "Lamb":
This review contains spoilers. Lamb is to Animal Farm as Elephant (2003) is to Elephant (1989). It is a story of our times told through allegory. Despite the low budget and minimal cast and filming location, it has a lot to offer in narrative and cinematography. I highly recommend this film to anyone who is a fan of symbolism, Russian literature, and/or precision storytelling. I do not recommend this film to literally anyone else. You will not enjoy it, you will think it is slow, you will think nothing happens, you will think the "twist" is underdone, etc. Honestly can say, Lamb is my new favorite film, and I eagerly await Valdimar Jóhannsson's next project.
(SPOILERS AHEAD)
In most basic terms, Lamb, to me (I will only emphasize this once, this is my opinion, I do not pretend there is an exact takeaway from any work of art, as art is subjective) is about the struggle between old and new, framed in the trope of man vs nature. I do not think this film was exactly political, but I will use the terms conservative and liberal in reference to their respective philosophies. Conservative being the will to remain true to tradition, the way things have always been. Liberal being the will to bring about change at any cost. I think each character represents a specific point on the spectrum between neo-conservative and neo-liberal. The mother lamb being neo-conservative, the brother being conservative, the dog being neutral, the father being liberal, and the mother being neo-liberal. The lamb itself is not a character, but an idea. A third party ("the twist", or "the monster", or "the naked sheep man") conceived this idea. The idea was born, and the neo-liberal hijacked it and raised it as her own. The neo-conservative objected and took a stand against the perversion. The neo-liberal, unconfident in her actions against nature (the conservative ideal), silenced the neo-conservative (the only thing standing in her way of change) with a weapon. The conservative literally drops into the story. He initially objects to the perversion, but is too distracted by consumerism (cigarettes, sports, alcohol) to become uncomfortable enough to take action. In fact, when he does muster the strength to use the weapon against the idea, he eventually concedes. He is all talk, no game (see Facebook boomers). I have more to say on the mid portion of the movie, but I will leave that up to you to determine. The ending, though, is brilliant. Eventually, he who conceived the idea comes to take the idea back. In this struggle, the neutral party is killed in the crossfire, leaving only the extremes to duke it out. Using the same weapon used to silence the neo-conservative, the new conservative force silences the liberal, leaving only two polar opposites. Old vs new. But now, both sides are moved to physical action against each other in pursuit of their ideal world. This is the paradigm shift. In my opinion this is telling us that without balance in the progression of society, the liberal philosophy will always prevail. For a conservative force to meet the liberal, though, would be as impossible as the mythical goat man that represented it. This is just my take, though.
I've heard many critiques of the film. None of them attempted to interpret it at any more than face value. Walking out of the theater, I spoke with a man claiming to have a master's in English writing. He said the movie was horrible. I pleaded with him to the contrary, describing the symbolism. He simply didn't see it. If the Russian revolution never occurred, yet Animal Farm was still written verbatim, would it still be an allegory? In the same vein, if you weren't aware of the tides that move us today, would you realize that a story was calling it to your attention? I don't think his master's degree in English failed him, no, I think the true horror of the movie lies in the ignorance of the masses, the sheep, to the greater meaning o
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Carl And Carlson by A.T. on NOVEMBER 26, 2021
I signed off Wednesday:
"I can’t begin to list all the things I give thanks for, beginning with my amazing parents — and their ancestors for emigrating to this wonderful country — going all the way to the present day and your readership. And a thousand things in between. Happy Thanksgiving!"
Carl’s response:
"Don’t forget to give thanks that this wonderful country is surviving despite your support for the corrupt Marxist/Democrat anti American party. I am giving thanks for your silent support for the despicable anti-Semitic, anti-American Squad and their peers is being despised as it should be by educated Americans, not elitist Harvard grad bloggers. I am giving thanks that revolting arrogant people like you will thankfully lose to the fed up masses in 2022 elections."
It is of a piece, broadly speaking, with Tucker Carlson’s view of January 6th. Which you must read to see — as if you didn’t already know — how dangerous this all is. ( https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tucker-carlson-patriot-purge-is-fascist
-january-6-revisionism_n_6192b4a9e4b05e93cbb3c1d7 )
And how it’s possible that smart, well-intentioned people like Carl — who surely think they’re on the right side of things — have been so misled. And become so strident.
Have a great long weekend.
https://andrewtobias.com/carl-and-carlson/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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