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Monday, November 1, 2021 7:37 PM

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Scholars are mapping the international precursors of Nazism.



Good.

They can start with the star of David Biden* is unsuccessfully trying to have everybody forced to get shot in their arm.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

You Know Who Else Opposed Vaccine Mandates? Hitler. Contrary to claims about “fascist” vaccine mandates currently circulating on the Right, the Nazis actually relaxed German vaccine mandates.

Republicans would have found much to like in the Third Reich’s vaccine policy, which was very much in line with their current recommendations: above all, it relaxed requirements for compulsory vaccination that had been in place in Germany for decades at that point, and went with a voluntary approach instead. We even have records of private discussions of Adolph Hitler and his Nazi colleagues clearly showing that, far from viewing vaccine mandates as key to their genocidal goals, the opposite was the case: they knew that withholding compulsory vaccination and other German public-health innovations would help kill more of the undesirable and “inferior” people who they wanted to rid from the world.

More at https://www.jacobinmag.com/2021/09/vaccine-mandates-covid-pandemic-ger
man-nazi-inoculation-policy


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, November 1, 2021 7:51 PM

Would FDR and JFK turn in their graves if they seen the Democrat party of today


thye Neo-Liberals and their mistakes...Will they admit the truth?


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Not coincidentally, it has also become the party of censorship and the party of actively stifling free speech whenever and wherever it can, and enabling, emboldening and celebrating others who do so where it can't (yet).













Fox’s Doocy asks Biden about obscene payments to immigrants, his answer; look away, scratch head
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/11/01/foxs-doocy-asks-biden-about-ob
scene-payments-to-immigrants-his-answer-look-away-scratch-head-1156714
/

Rampant corruption crippled Afghanistan. The international community did little to help.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2021/11/01/america-inter
national-weak-efforts-failed-afghanistan/5893471001
/

US: Biden Govt In Plans To Resettle Over 55,000 Afghan Refugees Permanently: Reports
https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/us-news/us-biden-govt-in-plan
s-to-resettle-over-55000-afghan-refugees-permanently-reports.html


Kamala Harris barely appearing in public with Joe Biden any more as he flounders in polls
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/10/26/kamala-harris-barely
-appearing-public-joe-biden
/

GOP Rep. Waltz: "Symbolic Victory" In Afghanistan Will Inspire Islamic Terrorism
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/10/31/gop_rep_waltz_symbo
lic_victory_in_afghanistan_will_inspire_islamic_terrorism.html


Biden opposition to Border Patrol mission harming national security, former chief says
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/biden-opposition-to-border-p
atrol-mission-harming-national-security-former-chief-says


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Tuesday, November 2, 2021 6:12 PM

Cowards Are Destroying America

Back in July, Kay Ivey, governor of Alabama, had some strong and sensible things to say about Covid-19 vaccines. “I want folks to get vaccinated,” she declared. “That’s the cure. That prevents everything.” She went on to say that the unvaccinated are “letting us down.”

Three months later Ivey directed state agencies not to cooperate with federal Covid-19 vaccination mandates.

Ivey’s swift journey from common sense and respect for science to destructive partisan nonsense wasn’t unique. On the contrary, it was a recapitulation of the journey the whole Republican Party has taken on issue after issue.

When we talk about the G.O.P.’s moral descent, we tend to focus on the obvious extremists, like the conspiracy theorists who claim that climate change is a hoax and Jan. 6 was a false flag operation. But the crazies wouldn’t be driving the Republican agenda so completely if it weren’t for the cowards, Republicans who clearly know better but reliably swallow their misgivings and go along with the party line.

Consider, for example, the claim that tax cuts pay for themselves. In 1980 George H.W. Bush, running against Ronald Reagan for the Republican presidential nomination, called that assertion “voodoo economic policy.” Everything we’ve seen since then says that he was right. But Bush soon climbed down, and by 2017 even supposed “moderates” like Susan Collins accepted claims that the Trump tax cut would reduce, not increase, the budget deficit. (It increased the deficit.)

Or consider climate change. As recently as 2008 John McCain campaigned for president in part on a proposal to put a cap on U.S. greenhouse gas emissions. But at this point Republicans in Congress are united in their opposition to any substantive action to limit global warming, with 30 G.O.P. senators outright denying the overwhelming scientific evidence that human activities are causing climate change.

The falsehoods that are poisoning America’s politics tend to share similar life histories. They begin in cynicism, spread through disinformation and culminate in capitulation, as Republicans who know the truth decide to acquiesce in lies.

Take the claim of a stolen election. Donald Trump never had any evidence on his side, but he didn’t care. Despite the lack of evidence and the failure of every attempt to produce or create a case, a steady drumbeat of propaganda has persuaded an overwhelming majority of Republicans that Joe Biden’s victory was illegitimate.

And establishment Republicans, who at first pushed back against the Big Lie, have gone quiet or even begun to promote the falsehood. Thus on Wednesday, The Wall Street Journal published, without corrections or fact checks, a letter to the editor from Trump that was full of demonstrable lies — and in so doing gave those lies a new, prominent platform.

The G.O.P.’s journey toward what it is now with respect to Covid-19 — an anti-vaccine, objectively pro-pandemic party — followed the same trajectory.

Although Republican governors like Ron DeSantis (Florida) and Greg Abbott (Texas) claim that their opposition to vaccine requirements is about freedom, the fact that both governors have tried to stop private businesses from requiring customers or staff to be vaccinated shows this is a smoke screen. Pretty clearly, the anti-vaccine push began as an act of politically motivated sabotage. After all, a successful vaccination campaign that ended the pandemic would have been good political news for Biden.

We should note, by the way, that this sabotage has, so far at least, paid off. While there are multiple reasons many Americans remain unvaccinated, there’s a strong correlation between a county’s political lean and both its vaccination rate and its death rate in recent months. And the persistence of Covid, which has in turn been a drag on the economy, has been an important factor dragging down Biden’s approval rating.

More important for the internal dynamics of the G.O.P., however, is that many in the party’s base have bought into assertions that requi

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Wednesday, November 3, 2021 5:12 PM

Our economy explained by . . . cookies!

There was a time in history when U.S. workers created 10 cookies. The rich kept 9 cookies and our economy failed in 1929.

Then as a Nation we decided that the rich should keep 3 cookies. And workers shared 7 cookies and we became the greatest country in the world.

Since 1971 that formula started changing. Nowadays, for every 10 cookies, the rich keep 9 1/2 cookies and U.S. workers fight over a half a cookie.
1:54 PM · Oct 31, 2021
https://twitter.com/jilevin/status/1454884392057376774

The Top 1% of Americans Have Taken $50 Trillion From the Bottom 90%—And That's Made the U.S. Less Secure
https://time.com/5888024/50-trillion-income-inequality-america/

The Simpsons has been on so long that they went from a fairly standard single income middle class family with a house and three kids to an impossible fantasy world where a thirty four year old high school grad with no inheritance can have any of those things and still be 'lazy'.

Homer has a secure union job doing technical work he was clearly trained to do by his employer, they had a kid in their mid twenties and it hasn’t destroyed their life prospects. Without the family’s material circumstances changing the family became totally detached from reality.

That a show which was originally about a dysfunctional mess of a family barely clinging to middle class life in the aftermath of the Reagan administration has now become aspirational is frankly the most on the nose manifestations of capitalist American decline I can think of.

The first episode of The Simpsons is about the embarrassment of their household requiring a second income. That says something. Compare Family Guy, where it is made explicitly clear over and over that Lois' One Percenter parents pay their bills.

https://imgur.com/gallery/K7y0hSL

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, November 3, 2021 5:29 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Our economy explained by . . . cookies!

There was a time in history when U.S. workers created 10 cookies. The rich kept 9 cookies and our economy failed in 1929.

Then as a Nation we decided that the rich should keep 3 cookies. And workers shared 7 cookies and we became the greatest country in the world.

Since 1971 that formula started changing. Nowadays, for every 10 cookies, the rich keep 9 1/2 cookies and U.S. workers fight over a half a cookie.
1:54 PM · Oct 31, 2021
https://twitter.com/jilevin/status/1454884392057376774

The Top 1% of Americans Have Taken $50 Trillion From the Bottom 90%—And That's Made the U.S. Less Secure
https://time.com/5888024/50-trillion-income-inequality-america/

The Simpsons has been on so long that they went from a fairly standard single income middle class family with a house and three kids to an impossible fantasy world where a thirty four year old high school grad with no inheritance can have any of those things and still be 'lazy'.

Homer has a secure union job doing technical work he was clearly trained to do by his employer, they had a kid in their mid twenties and it hasn’t destroyed their life prospects. Without the family’s material circumstances changing the family became totally detached from reality.

That a show which was originally about a dysfunctional mess of a family barely clinging to middle class life in the aftermath of the Reagan administration has now become aspirational is frankly the most on the nose manifestations of capitalist American decline I can think of.

The first episode of The Simpsons is about the embarrassment of their household requiring a second income. That says something. Compare Family Guy, where it is made explicitly clear over and over that Lois' One Percenter parents pay their bills.

https://imgur.com/gallery/K7y0hSL

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two





If Democrats focused on THAT message and dropped all of their other horrible bullshit, AND ACTUALLY EVER FUCKING FOLLOWED THROUGH WITH ANY OF IT AFTER THE FACT, they'd never lose an election again.

PERIOD.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Wednesday, November 3, 2021 6:50 PM

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If Democrats focused on THAT message and dropped all of their other horrible bullshit, AND ACTUALLY EVER FUCKING FOLLOWED THROUGH WITH ANY OF IT AFTER THE FACT, they'd never lose an election again.

PERIOD.

Look at it from the Senate Republican side and ask yourself why no Republicans would ever endorse THAT message. Unless some Republicans change their minds, it will never become law because the Senate needs 60 votes to pass such a huge change. The Democrats cannot do this without some help from at least a few Republicans, but there is NOT ONE Republican who will.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, November 5, 2021 12:59 AM


The Senate democrats can't even command a 50-vote simple majority because ... democrats.

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Sunday, November 7, 2021 5:14 PM

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The Senate democrats can't even command a 50-vote simple majority because ... democrats.

They have Senator Manchin of West Virginia who is really a Republican. Before Manchin, it was Sen. Joe Lieberman playing that role. Now that Lieberman got kicked out of the Senate, he plays that same role as a lobbyist. Here is how Lieberman did a Manchin to Obamacare:
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/newsletter-article/senat
e-democrats-drop-public-option-woo-lieberman-and-liberals-howl


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, November 7, 2021 5:18 PM

Republican politicians are calling the infrastructure bill "communist" and "socialism" because they have odd ideas what those words mean:

Marjorie Taylor Greene @mtgreenee
Republicans who hand over their voting card to Nancy Pelosi to pass Biden’s Communist takeover of America will feel the anger of the GOP voter.
10:08 PM • Nov 5, 2021 • Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/mtgreenee/status/1456820687230980105

Matt Gaetz @mattgaetz
I can’t believe Republicans just gave the Democrats their socialism bill.
11:09 PM • Nov 5, 2021 • Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1456836212929486849

As for the Republican voters, same as with Republican politicians, they have strange ideas what "communist" and "socialism" are. Why are they that way? A mental illness, the bane of America:

Collective narcissism was the second-strongest predictor (after partisanship) of voting for Donald Trump in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

When people think of narcissism, they typically conjure up the chest-thumping, boastful, grandiose narcissist. But psychologists have identified a more vulnerable form of narcissism, involving a fragile, uncertain sense of self-worth, deeply steeped in shame and distrust, along with the typical antagonism and self-entitlement. In some countries, including the U.S., collective narcissism is more strongly correlated with grandiose narcissism—but overall, those scoring high in vulnerable narcissism are actually more likely to fall into collective-narcissistic thinking. Collective narcissists might be obsessed with receiving group recognition because, on a personal level, they feel deeply insecure about their own value and they desperately need validation. They might also be lacking in emotional resilience.

Collective narcissism isn’t a successful coping strategy; studies show that it doesn’t improve self-esteem. In fact, having collective-narcissistic beliefs probably increases one’s level of individual vulnerable narcissism: People who believe that their group’s greatness is not appreciated seem likely to start worrying that their own personal greatness is not appreciated. . . .

One preliminary study found that after participating in a six-week mindful-gratitude training, designed to fortify the ability to regulate negative emotions and cultivate a sense of gratefulness, collective narcissists were less likely to demonstrate sexism, homophobia, and prejudice toward immigrants.

It’s not clear how long all of these effects last, but these studies at least provide hints that group narcissism is not inevitable. Group-narcissistic beliefs can form early in life, but they need not develop. Children can be taught that their social identity doesn’t need to be externally validated to bring them meaning. They can feel inherently worthy without needing to feel superior.

More at https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/what-collective-narcissism-does-t
o-society/ar-AAQoeTn?ocid=winp1taskbar


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, November 11, 2021 11:21 PM

The US Constitution did not in fact lay out three equal branches of government, but rather a system of “Judicial Supremacy.” Indeed most contemporary legal scholars accept that this is exactly what the outcome has been. No less an authority than James Madison, often considered the intellectual architect of the US Constitution, came to agree, advocating for a Legislative “Council of Revision,” writing:

"In the State Constitutions & indeed in the Federal one also, no provision is made for the case of a disagreement in expounding them; and as the Courts are generally the last in making their decision, it results to them, by refusing or not refusing to execute a law, to stamp it with its final character. This makes the Judiciary Dept paramount in fact to the Legislature, which was never intended, and can never be proper."

Madison proposed that, following an intervening election, the Congress could override an adverse Supreme Court decision by a supermajority vote of 2/3’s or 3/4’s of both Houses, saying:

"It should not be allowed the Judges or the Executive to pronounce a law thus enacted Unconstitutional and invalid."

More at https://angrybearblog.com/2021/11/brutus-the-anti-federalist-to-presci
ently-foresaw-the-imperial-supreme-court


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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